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Re: Diesel TJ?
No filter could handle what the old two cycle Detroits put out. I
remember the garbage trucks in Denver had them, at 5000 feet, the whole truck top would be covered with an inch of soot. It was really bad when you got behind some of the school buses, which had the four cycle, mechanical V8 Detroit, which smoked less, but the tailpipe was at door level to cars. They would pull off and if you were in the right lane and they were in the left and you had your window open you were in trouble. |
Re: Diesel TJ?
Outside of being converted for, diesel from number two to one, it's
same stuff going through the same type of engines, there's no magic here it takes the same amount of oil to produce the same amount of horsepower, the only difference is that filter. You can take a new Dodge and pour the coal to it and it looks just the same as they always did: http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: > > No filter could handle what the old two cycle Detroits put out. I > remember the garbage trucks in Denver had them, at 5000 feet, the whole > truck top would be covered with an inch of soot. It was really bad > when you got behind some of the school buses, which had the four cycle, > mechanical V8 Detroit, which smoked less, but the tailpipe was at door > level to cars. They would pull off and if you were in the right lane > and they were in the left and you had your window open you were in > trouble. |
Re: Diesel TJ?
Outside of being converted for, diesel from number two to one, it's
same stuff going through the same type of engines, there's no magic here it takes the same amount of oil to produce the same amount of horsepower, the only difference is that filter. You can take a new Dodge and pour the coal to it and it looks just the same as they always did: http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: > > No filter could handle what the old two cycle Detroits put out. I > remember the garbage trucks in Denver had them, at 5000 feet, the whole > truck top would be covered with an inch of soot. It was really bad > when you got behind some of the school buses, which had the four cycle, > mechanical V8 Detroit, which smoked less, but the tailpipe was at door > level to cars. They would pull off and if you were in the right lane > and they were in the left and you had your window open you were in > trouble. |
Re: Diesel TJ?
Outside of being converted for, diesel from number two to one, it's
same stuff going through the same type of engines, there's no magic here it takes the same amount of oil to produce the same amount of horsepower, the only difference is that filter. You can take a new Dodge and pour the coal to it and it looks just the same as they always did: http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: > > No filter could handle what the old two cycle Detroits put out. I > remember the garbage trucks in Denver had them, at 5000 feet, the whole > truck top would be covered with an inch of soot. It was really bad > when you got behind some of the school buses, which had the four cycle, > mechanical V8 Detroit, which smoked less, but the tailpipe was at door > level to cars. They would pull off and if you were in the right lane > and they were in the left and you had your window open you were in > trouble. |
Re: Diesel TJ?
Outside of being converted for, diesel from number two to one, it's
same stuff going through the same type of engines, there's no magic here it takes the same amount of oil to produce the same amount of horsepower, the only difference is that filter. You can take a new Dodge and pour the coal to it and it looks just the same as they always did: http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: > > No filter could handle what the old two cycle Detroits put out. I > remember the garbage trucks in Denver had them, at 5000 feet, the whole > truck top would be covered with an inch of soot. It was really bad > when you got behind some of the school buses, which had the four cycle, > mechanical V8 Detroit, which smoked less, but the tailpipe was at door > level to cars. They would pull off and if you were in the right lane > and they were in the left and you had your window open you were in > trouble. |
Re: Diesel TJ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4282B17D.AD48BAF0@cox.net... > Yes, that would be like the 1947 Detroit 4, 6, and V8 71, 71 being > the cubic inches per cylinder. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> 4.8L is almost 290 CID, which is a big four cylinder. It would be >> interesting to find the weight and operating RPM of the engine, but >> "high" and "low" respectively seem inevitable. >> >> I suspect that in the US the best choice is the Mercedes five >> cylinder, because they are plentiful in excellent condition in >> wrecking >> yards. Volvo only sold one car in the US with a diesel: it was an >> outsourced engine and ironically troublesome. In general, Volvo >> mechanicals are very reliable, but that one wasn't. Y'all got me curious, so I did a little Googling: http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/78...nge0405_21.pdf The only 4.8L that puts out 160HP I can find is the TAD520VE. This is a stationary/off-road engine. Dry weight is 430kg, or about 950 pounds. That seems pretty hefty for the front of a Wrangler. Peak HP is 160 at 2300 rpm, peak torque is 577 at 1400 rpm. Didn't I read something a while back about a shop in California that was installing Isuzu diesels in Jeeps? Anybody remember who they were? |
Re: Diesel TJ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4282B17D.AD48BAF0@cox.net... > Yes, that would be like the 1947 Detroit 4, 6, and V8 71, 71 being > the cubic inches per cylinder. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> 4.8L is almost 290 CID, which is a big four cylinder. It would be >> interesting to find the weight and operating RPM of the engine, but >> "high" and "low" respectively seem inevitable. >> >> I suspect that in the US the best choice is the Mercedes five >> cylinder, because they are plentiful in excellent condition in >> wrecking >> yards. Volvo only sold one car in the US with a diesel: it was an >> outsourced engine and ironically troublesome. In general, Volvo >> mechanicals are very reliable, but that one wasn't. Y'all got me curious, so I did a little Googling: http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/78...nge0405_21.pdf The only 4.8L that puts out 160HP I can find is the TAD520VE. This is a stationary/off-road engine. Dry weight is 430kg, or about 950 pounds. That seems pretty hefty for the front of a Wrangler. Peak HP is 160 at 2300 rpm, peak torque is 577 at 1400 rpm. Didn't I read something a while back about a shop in California that was installing Isuzu diesels in Jeeps? Anybody remember who they were? |
Re: Diesel TJ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4282B17D.AD48BAF0@cox.net... > Yes, that would be like the 1947 Detroit 4, 6, and V8 71, 71 being > the cubic inches per cylinder. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> 4.8L is almost 290 CID, which is a big four cylinder. It would be >> interesting to find the weight and operating RPM of the engine, but >> "high" and "low" respectively seem inevitable. >> >> I suspect that in the US the best choice is the Mercedes five >> cylinder, because they are plentiful in excellent condition in >> wrecking >> yards. Volvo only sold one car in the US with a diesel: it was an >> outsourced engine and ironically troublesome. In general, Volvo >> mechanicals are very reliable, but that one wasn't. Y'all got me curious, so I did a little Googling: http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/78...nge0405_21.pdf The only 4.8L that puts out 160HP I can find is the TAD520VE. This is a stationary/off-road engine. Dry weight is 430kg, or about 950 pounds. That seems pretty hefty for the front of a Wrangler. Peak HP is 160 at 2300 rpm, peak torque is 577 at 1400 rpm. Didn't I read something a while back about a shop in California that was installing Isuzu diesels in Jeeps? Anybody remember who they were? |
Re: Diesel TJ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4282B17D.AD48BAF0@cox.net... > Yes, that would be like the 1947 Detroit 4, 6, and V8 71, 71 being > the cubic inches per cylinder. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > calcerise@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> 4.8L is almost 290 CID, which is a big four cylinder. It would be >> interesting to find the weight and operating RPM of the engine, but >> "high" and "low" respectively seem inevitable. >> >> I suspect that in the US the best choice is the Mercedes five >> cylinder, because they are plentiful in excellent condition in >> wrecking >> yards. Volvo only sold one car in the US with a diesel: it was an >> outsourced engine and ironically troublesome. In general, Volvo >> mechanicals are very reliable, but that one wasn't. Y'all got me curious, so I did a little Googling: http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/78...nge0405_21.pdf The only 4.8L that puts out 160HP I can find is the TAD520VE. This is a stationary/off-road engine. Dry weight is 430kg, or about 950 pounds. That seems pretty hefty for the front of a Wrangler. Peak HP is 160 at 2300 rpm, peak torque is 577 at 1400 rpm. Didn't I read something a while back about a shop in California that was installing Isuzu diesels in Jeeps? Anybody remember who they were? |
Re: Diesel TJ?
Not in Kalifornia, our air is too clean to allow diesel cars:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ ElAlumbrado wrote: > > The only 4.8L that puts out 160HP I can find is the TAD520VE. This is a > stationary/off-road engine. Dry weight is 430kg, or about 950 pounds. > That seems pretty hefty for the front of a Wrangler. Peak HP is 160 at > 2300 rpm, peak torque is 577 at 1400 rpm. > > Didn't I read something a while back about a shop in California that was > installing Isuzu diesels in Jeeps? Anybody remember who they were? |
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