Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

On 26 Jan 2005 18:39:09 -0800, rgb wrote:
> I ordered a 2005 Wrangler X on November 24th of last year. I was told
> to expect 4 to 6 weeks to delivery. It has now been 9 weeks and still
> no car, no firm date, and no firm price. What has been other's
> experience?

When I went looking, the dealer told me that the price would be agreed
before the order is placed. If you don't have a price, then I
certainly hope you haven't signed a contract and have the option of
going elsewhere. I was told that sometimes it can take a few months
for an ordered vehicle to arrive depending on production runs and the
number of other (probably dealer) orders. Instead they found one at a
not too far away dealer that was almost exactly what I would have
considered ordering.

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Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

On 26 Jan 2005 18:39:09 -0800, rgb wrote:
> I ordered a 2005 Wrangler X on November 24th of last year. I was told
> to expect 4 to 6 weeks to delivery. It has now been 9 weeks and still
> no car, no firm date, and no firm price. What has been other's
> experience?

When I went looking, the dealer told me that the price would be agreed
before the order is placed. If you don't have a price, then I
certainly hope you haven't signed a contract and have the option of
going elsewhere. I was told that sometimes it can take a few months
for an ordered vehicle to arrive depending on production runs and the
number of other (probably dealer) orders. Instead they found one at a
not too far away dealer that was almost exactly what I would have
considered ordering.

-D

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Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

On 26 Jan 2005 18:39:09 -0800, rgb wrote:
> I ordered a 2005 Wrangler X on November 24th of last year. I was told
> to expect 4 to 6 weeks to delivery. It has now been 9 weeks and still
> no car, no firm date, and no firm price. What has been other's
> experience?

When I went looking, the dealer told me that the price would be agreed
before the order is placed. If you don't have a price, then I
certainly hope you haven't signed a contract and have the option of
going elsewhere. I was told that sometimes it can take a few months
for an ordered vehicle to arrive depending on production runs and the
number of other (probably dealer) orders. Instead they found one at a
not too far away dealer that was almost exactly what I would have
considered ordering.

-D

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Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

"rgb" <robert.garth.brown@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>It has now been 9 weeks and still
> no car, no firm date, and no firm price. What has been other's
> experience?

i dont understand the price thing. i ordered an '05 rubicon just a couple
hours ago see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=552 and look
at the order form. you should have filled out a similar order form and it
clearly lists the price.

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Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

"rgb" <robert.garth.brown@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106793549.543905.57360@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>It has now been 9 weeks and still
> no car, no firm date, and no firm price. What has been other's
> experience?

i dont understand the price thing. i ordered an '05 rubicon just a couple
hours ago see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=552 and look
at the order form. you should have filled out a similar order form and it
clearly lists the price.

--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

"rgb" <robert.garth.brown@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106793549.543905.57360@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>It has now been 9 weeks and still
> no car, no firm date, and no firm price. What has been other's
> experience?

i dont understand the price thing. i ordered an '05 rubicon just a couple
hours ago see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=552 and look
at the order form. you should have filled out a similar order form and it
clearly lists the price.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

My thanks to the earlier reply that suggested calling DC Customer
Service. I called and got the status and an estimated delivery date
range. It looks now like the delivery time will be 11 to 12 weeks.
That's quite a bit longer than the 4 to 6 weeks I was promised, but at
least now I know what to expect.

On the price thing:
Before placing the order, I had a print out of the options and five (5)
total prices, labeled HB, FFP, EP, MSRP, and FWP - just like the web
page referenced in the previous reply. My price was to be the FWP.
But at the bottom of the page it said "The prices shown are for
information only and are subject to change or correction without prior
notice." When the jeep arrives I expect the dealer to honor the verbal
agreement to sell at the FWP and the dealer expects me to honor my
promist to buy at that price. I did not sign anything and my
understanding is that the $500 is refundable.

I do not know whether such verbal promise-to-buy/promise-to-sell
agreements are rare, common, or routine. I like the idea of a
handshake deal, but it relies on trust. When the dealer did not keep
me informed, that trust started to break down. I called the dealer at
the time of my first post. Since then there have been five replies
from the group, and no call back from the dealer.

Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

My thanks to the earlier reply that suggested calling DC Customer
Service. I called and got the status and an estimated delivery date
range. It looks now like the delivery time will be 11 to 12 weeks.
That's quite a bit longer than the 4 to 6 weeks I was promised, but at
least now I know what to expect.

On the price thing:
Before placing the order, I had a print out of the options and five (5)
total prices, labeled HB, FFP, EP, MSRP, and FWP - just like the web
page referenced in the previous reply. My price was to be the FWP.
But at the bottom of the page it said "The prices shown are for
information only and are subject to change or correction without prior
notice." When the jeep arrives I expect the dealer to honor the verbal
agreement to sell at the FWP and the dealer expects me to honor my
promist to buy at that price. I did not sign anything and my
understanding is that the $500 is refundable.

I do not know whether such verbal promise-to-buy/promise-to-sell
agreements are rare, common, or routine. I like the idea of a
handshake deal, but it relies on trust. When the dealer did not keep
me informed, that trust started to break down. I called the dealer at
the time of my first post. Since then there have been five replies
from the group, and no call back from the dealer.

Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

My thanks to the earlier reply that suggested calling DC Customer
Service. I called and got the status and an estimated delivery date
range. It looks now like the delivery time will be 11 to 12 weeks.
That's quite a bit longer than the 4 to 6 weeks I was promised, but at
least now I know what to expect.

On the price thing:
Before placing the order, I had a print out of the options and five (5)
total prices, labeled HB, FFP, EP, MSRP, and FWP - just like the web
page referenced in the previous reply. My price was to be the FWP.
But at the bottom of the page it said "The prices shown are for
information only and are subject to change or correction without prior
notice." When the jeep arrives I expect the dealer to honor the verbal
agreement to sell at the FWP and the dealer expects me to honor my
promist to buy at that price. I did not sign anything and my
understanding is that the $500 is refundable.

I do not know whether such verbal promise-to-buy/promise-to-sell
agreements are rare, common, or routine. I like the idea of a
handshake deal, but it relies on trust. When the dealer did not keep
me informed, that trust started to break down. I called the dealer at
the time of my first post. Since then there have been five replies
from the group, and no call back from the dealer.

Re: Delivery Time for Factory Order
 

Glad to help, if you're referring to my post. I've ordered vehicles
verbally before, but there is always some sort of written
correspondence, even if only an email, that includes the definitive
price. I might give the go-ahead to order verbally over the phone, for
instance...sometimes without even a deposit. In fact, I did just that
with my present Rubicon. The only problem I had was that the salesbot
tried to add in an Oil Change Package and some other crap on the
delivery day. I just walked out and let the Jeep sit an entire week
before he called and said, "come get it." :) But that can happen with
any sales agreement. You invariably get some bozo trying something in
the end.



rgb wrote:

> My thanks to the earlier reply that suggested calling DC Customer
> Service. I called and got the status and an estimated delivery date
> range. It looks now like the delivery time will be 11 to 12 weeks.
> That's quite a bit longer than the 4 to 6 weeks I was promised, but at
> least now I know what to expect.
>
> On the price thing:
> Before placing the order, I had a print out of the options and five (5)
> total prices, labeled HB, FFP, EP, MSRP, and FWP - just like the web
> page referenced in the previous reply. My price was to be the FWP.
> But at the bottom of the page it said "The prices shown are for
> information only and are subject to change or correction without prior
> notice." When the jeep arrives I expect the dealer to honor the verbal
> agreement to sell at the FWP and the dealer expects me to honor my
> promist to buy at that price. I did not sign anything and my
> understanding is that the $500 is refundable.
>
> I do not know whether such verbal promise-to-buy/promise-to-sell
> agreements are rare, common, or routine. I like the idea of a
> handshake deal, but it relies on trust. When the dealer did not keep
> me informed, that trust started to break down. I called the dealer at
> the time of my first post. Since then there have been five replies
> from the group, and no call back from the dealer.
>

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