Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>> and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>> now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>> after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>> going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>> happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.
>>
>
> I would be checking out the track bar or it's relocating bracket
> thinking it has come loose or it's bushings are broke. The track bar
> has a tie rod end on it too that can go bad.
>
> Something is likely loose though.

Finally got around to replacing my steering dampener. It hasn't wobbled
since I got a new set of BFG KO's. The old SD was completely shot. Now
the steering wheel doesn't shake a few times over bumps like it used to.

Now for some track bar bushings to stop the clunk over bumps.

And, it seems it's not a crackhead in the 'hood. It's juveniles! Chased a
couple girls from the tennis courts last night that were trying to break
things. A quick drive around the 'hood found a bunch of juvies lighting
fireworks. Next time they show up, there won't be anything to steal except
a dead lighter with "ha ha, f*cker" written on it! Bastards!!!

Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>> and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>> now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>> after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>> going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>> happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.
>>
>
> I would be checking out the track bar or it's relocating bracket
> thinking it has come loose or it's bushings are broke. The track bar
> has a tie rod end on it too that can go bad.
>
> Something is likely loose though.

Finally got around to replacing my steering dampener. It hasn't wobbled
since I got a new set of BFG KO's. The old SD was completely shot. Now
the steering wheel doesn't shake a few times over bumps like it used to.

Now for some track bar bushings to stop the clunk over bumps.

And, it seems it's not a crackhead in the 'hood. It's juveniles! Chased a
couple girls from the tennis courts last night that were trying to break
things. A quick drive around the 'hood found a bunch of juvies lighting
fireworks. Next time they show up, there won't be anything to steal except
a dead lighter with "ha ha, f*cker" written on it! Bastards!!!

Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>> and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>> now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>> after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>> going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>> happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.
>>
>
> I would be checking out the track bar or it's relocating bracket
> thinking it has come loose or it's bushings are broke. The track bar
> has a tie rod end on it too that can go bad.
>
> Something is likely loose though.

Finally got around to replacing my steering dampener. It hasn't wobbled
since I got a new set of BFG KO's. The old SD was completely shot. Now
the steering wheel doesn't shake a few times over bumps like it used to.

Now for some track bar bushings to stop the clunk over bumps.

And, it seems it's not a crackhead in the 'hood. It's juveniles! Chased a
couple girls from the tennis courts last night that were trying to break
things. A quick drive around the 'hood found a bunch of juvies lighting
fireworks. Next time they show up, there won't be anything to steal except
a dead lighter with "ha ha, f*cker" written on it! Bastards!!!

Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

check your rear track bar and its ends and mounting points.
check your front track bar and its ends and mounting points.
are your tires clean (no mud in the rims)?
are they all at the same pressure?
are your front wheel bearings good?
is your steering stabilizer good?
are any of the ends on your front suspension bad?
how old are your shocks? could one be going out?

Its often a hard thing to find. All of these things above have caused death wobble
for me (98 TJ). Mostly I find that (due to my lift I think) I tend to rip the rear
track bar mounts off the rear axle. Why that causes death wobble up front I dont
know, but it does. the one thing with the steering stabilizer is that just changing
it can mask a biger issue, like a bad rod end in your steering.
-jenn



On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:32:51 -0700, Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.

Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

check your rear track bar and its ends and mounting points.
check your front track bar and its ends and mounting points.
are your tires clean (no mud in the rims)?
are they all at the same pressure?
are your front wheel bearings good?
is your steering stabilizer good?
are any of the ends on your front suspension bad?
how old are your shocks? could one be going out?

Its often a hard thing to find. All of these things above have caused death wobble
for me (98 TJ). Mostly I find that (due to my lift I think) I tend to rip the rear
track bar mounts off the rear axle. Why that causes death wobble up front I dont
know, but it does. the one thing with the steering stabilizer is that just changing
it can mask a biger issue, like a bad rod end in your steering.
-jenn



On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:32:51 -0700, Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.

Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

check your rear track bar and its ends and mounting points.
check your front track bar and its ends and mounting points.
are your tires clean (no mud in the rims)?
are they all at the same pressure?
are your front wheel bearings good?
is your steering stabilizer good?
are any of the ends on your front suspension bad?
how old are your shocks? could one be going out?

Its often a hard thing to find. All of these things above have caused death wobble
for me (98 TJ). Mostly I find that (due to my lift I think) I tend to rip the rear
track bar mounts off the rear axle. Why that causes death wobble up front I dont
know, but it does. the one thing with the steering stabilizer is that just changing
it can mask a biger issue, like a bad rod end in your steering.
-jenn



On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:32:51 -0700, Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.

Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

check your rear track bar and its ends and mounting points.
check your front track bar and its ends and mounting points.
are your tires clean (no mud in the rims)?
are they all at the same pressure?
are your front wheel bearings good?
is your steering stabilizer good?
are any of the ends on your front suspension bad?
how old are your shocks? could one be going out?

Its often a hard thing to find. All of these things above have caused death wobble
for me (98 TJ). Mostly I find that (due to my lift I think) I tend to rip the rear
track bar mounts off the rear axle. Why that causes death wobble up front I dont
know, but it does. the one thing with the steering stabilizer is that just changing
it can mask a biger issue, like a bad rod end in your steering.
-jenn



On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:32:51 -0700, Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.

Re: Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:34:41 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mike Romain wrote:
>> Jamie Mello wrote:
>>> I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>> and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>> now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>> after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>> going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>> happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.
>>>
>>
>> I would be checking out the track bar or it's relocating bracket
>> thinking it has come loose or it's bushings are broke. The track bar
>> has a tie rod end on it too that can go bad.
>>
>> Something is likely loose though.
>
>Finally got around to replacing my steering dampener. It hasn't wobbled
>since I got a new set of BFG KO's. The old SD was completely shot. Now
>the steering wheel doesn't shake a few times over bumps like it used to.
>
>Now for some track bar bushings to stop the clunk over bumps.
>
>And, it seems it's not a crackhead in the 'hood. It's juveniles! Chased a
>couple girls from the tennis courts last night that were trying to break
>things. A quick drive around the 'hood found a bunch of juvies lighting
>fireworks. Next time they show up, there won't be anything to steal except
>a dead lighter with "ha ha, f*cker" written on it! Bastards!!!

The "Death Wooble" is caused by a dynamically unstable front axle.
Many think is is because a a bad stabilizer or worn suspension
componates but all they are doing is letting you know that you front
end is unstable to begin with and that you are trying to brute force
hold it stable. This instablity is cause by the improper caster,
camber and toe in combo for your lift and tires. Many think that
alignment is same but it is not and factory specs are rarely okay with
you add a lift and more tire rolling resistance and tread width to the
combo. Usually when you lift it you do not set proper posistive caster
angle (the amount that top of axle pivots are tipped towards rear of
vehicle) and this results in a front axle that want to osciilate at
times. A new damper is just masking the real problem but many are
usually convinced otherwise. Dynamic instablity is good for a fighter
aircraft because it makes it more resposive to controls but it is not
good for a front axle.
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Re: Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:34:41 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mike Romain wrote:
>> Jamie Mello wrote:
>>> I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>> and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>> now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>> after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>> going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>> happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.
>>>
>>
>> I would be checking out the track bar or it's relocating bracket
>> thinking it has come loose or it's bushings are broke. The track bar
>> has a tie rod end on it too that can go bad.
>>
>> Something is likely loose though.
>
>Finally got around to replacing my steering dampener. It hasn't wobbled
>since I got a new set of BFG KO's. The old SD was completely shot. Now
>the steering wheel doesn't shake a few times over bumps like it used to.
>
>Now for some track bar bushings to stop the clunk over bumps.
>
>And, it seems it's not a crackhead in the 'hood. It's juveniles! Chased a
>couple girls from the tennis courts last night that were trying to break
>things. A quick drive around the 'hood found a bunch of juvies lighting
>fireworks. Next time they show up, there won't be anything to steal except
>a dead lighter with "ha ha, f*cker" written on it! Bastards!!!

The "Death Wooble" is caused by a dynamically unstable front axle.
Many think is is because a a bad stabilizer or worn suspension
componates but all they are doing is letting you know that you front
end is unstable to begin with and that you are trying to brute force
hold it stable. This instablity is cause by the improper caster,
camber and toe in combo for your lift and tires. Many think that
alignment is same but it is not and factory specs are rarely okay with
you add a lift and more tire rolling resistance and tread width to the
combo. Usually when you lift it you do not set proper posistive caster
angle (the amount that top of axle pivots are tipped towards rear of
vehicle) and this results in a front axle that want to osciilate at
times. A new damper is just masking the real problem but many are
usually convinced otherwise. Dynamic instablity is good for a fighter
aircraft because it makes it more resposive to controls but it is not
good for a front axle.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: death wobble with a 99 tj sport
 

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:34:41 -0400, Scott in Baltimore
<sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mike Romain wrote:
>> Jamie Mello wrote:
>>> I have a 99 tj sport with a 5 speed stick shift with a 2.5 spacer lift
>>> and keep getting the death wobble almost every day for about 2 weeks
>>> now and it is getting old the death wobble comes at about 45 to 50 mph
>>> after I go over a bump and it comes some times when on the highway
>>> going about 45 + when you turn only right but very rarely it will
>>> happen when you turn left so any help will very munch helpful.
>>>
>>
>> I would be checking out the track bar or it's relocating bracket
>> thinking it has come loose or it's bushings are broke. The track bar
>> has a tie rod end on it too that can go bad.
>>
>> Something is likely loose though.
>
>Finally got around to replacing my steering dampener. It hasn't wobbled
>since I got a new set of BFG KO's. The old SD was completely shot. Now
>the steering wheel doesn't shake a few times over bumps like it used to.
>
>Now for some track bar bushings to stop the clunk over bumps.
>
>And, it seems it's not a crackhead in the 'hood. It's juveniles! Chased a
>couple girls from the tennis courts last night that were trying to break
>things. A quick drive around the 'hood found a bunch of juvies lighting
>fireworks. Next time they show up, there won't be anything to steal except
>a dead lighter with "ha ha, f*cker" written on it! Bastards!!!

The "Death Wooble" is caused by a dynamically unstable front axle.
Many think is is because a a bad stabilizer or worn suspension
componates but all they are doing is letting you know that you front
end is unstable to begin with and that you are trying to brute force
hold it stable. This instablity is cause by the improper caster,
camber and toe in combo for your lift and tires. Many think that
alignment is same but it is not and factory specs are rarely okay with
you add a lift and more tire rolling resistance and tread width to the
combo. Usually when you lift it you do not set proper posistive caster
angle (the amount that top of axle pivots are tipped towards rear of
vehicle) and this results in a front axle that want to osciilate at
times. A new damper is just masking the real problem but many are
usually convinced otherwise. Dynamic instablity is good for a fighter
aircraft because it makes it more resposive to controls but it is not
good for a front axle.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com