Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

Hello,

I have a new 2004 Wrangler that came with the Dayton Timberline L/T tires
(31x10.5).

I've put 2200 miles on them, and took them off-road today on some rocky
trails (nothing too extreme, though - I'm still just learning off-road
driving techniques).

Later in the day, I stopped to clear a limb from the trail and heard a
hissing sound. Yep - the rear driver's side tire was losing air - and
fast!

I had to switch to the spare (identical to the others) to get home.

My question is - would another brand (say BFG AT) be less likely to
puncture on rocky trail riding? I was dubious about these tires, even
though they apparently received a high score from consumer reports.

I will mix on-road and off-road driving, but the Jeep is *not* a daily
driver. I want good trail performance (rocky trails, a little mud) and
decent on-road snow performance.

Should I consider trading these in on BFGs or some other brand? I really
don't want to hassle with flat tires on the trail real often.

BTW, I did *not* air down the tires before trail riding today - I didn't
expect to do anything more than some gravel roads and light trails - the
rocky trails were a kind of spur-of-the-moment decision, and turned out to
be a little hairier than I had planned. Would airing down the tires have
reduced my chances of a puncture?

Thanks for any advice,

PLM

Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

I use BF Goodrich All-Terrain KOs and the have weak side walls,
too. This just the chance we have to take to be able to offroad, their
flex may be the difference as to whether we are stuck or not. Sure I
could buy truck tire with an eight ply rating, but they'd be digging
holes like a TJ.
Customer survey results:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a new 2004 Wrangler that came with the Dayton Timberline L/T tires
> (31x10.5).
>
> I've put 2200 miles on them, and took them off-road today on some rocky
> trails (nothing too extreme, though - I'm still just learning off-road
> driving techniques).
>
> Later in the day, I stopped to clear a limb from the trail and heard a
> hissing sound. Yep - the rear driver's side tire was losing air - and
> fast!
>
> I had to switch to the spare (identical to the others) to get home.
>
> My question is - would another brand (say BFG AT) be less likely to
> puncture on rocky trail riding? I was dubious about these tires, even
> though they apparently received a high score from consumer reports.
>
> I will mix on-road and off-road driving, but the Jeep is *not* a daily
> driver. I want good trail performance (rocky trails, a little mud) and
> decent on-road snow performance.
>
> Should I consider trading these in on BFGs or some other brand? I really
> don't want to hassle with flat tires on the trail real often.
>
> BTW, I did *not* air down the tires before trail riding today - I didn't
> expect to do anything more than some gravel roads and light trails - the
> rocky trails were a kind of spur-of-the-moment decision, and turned out to
> be a little hairier than I had planned. Would airing down the tires have
> reduced my chances of a puncture?
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> PLM

Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

I use BF Goodrich All-Terrain KOs and the have weak side walls,
too. This just the chance we have to take to be able to offroad, their
flex may be the difference as to whether we are stuck or not. Sure I
could buy truck tire with an eight ply rating, but they'd be digging
holes like a TJ.
Customer survey results:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a new 2004 Wrangler that came with the Dayton Timberline L/T tires
> (31x10.5).
>
> I've put 2200 miles on them, and took them off-road today on some rocky
> trails (nothing too extreme, though - I'm still just learning off-road
> driving techniques).
>
> Later in the day, I stopped to clear a limb from the trail and heard a
> hissing sound. Yep - the rear driver's side tire was losing air - and
> fast!
>
> I had to switch to the spare (identical to the others) to get home.
>
> My question is - would another brand (say BFG AT) be less likely to
> puncture on rocky trail riding? I was dubious about these tires, even
> though they apparently received a high score from consumer reports.
>
> I will mix on-road and off-road driving, but the Jeep is *not* a daily
> driver. I want good trail performance (rocky trails, a little mud) and
> decent on-road snow performance.
>
> Should I consider trading these in on BFGs or some other brand? I really
> don't want to hassle with flat tires on the trail real often.
>
> BTW, I did *not* air down the tires before trail riding today - I didn't
> expect to do anything more than some gravel roads and light trails - the
> rocky trails were a kind of spur-of-the-moment decision, and turned out to
> be a little hairier than I had planned. Would airing down the tires have
> reduced my chances of a puncture?
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> PLM

Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

I use BF Goodrich All-Terrain KOs and the have weak side walls,
too. This just the chance we have to take to be able to offroad, their
flex may be the difference as to whether we are stuck or not. Sure I
could buy truck tire with an eight ply rating, but they'd be digging
holes like a TJ.
Customer survey results:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a new 2004 Wrangler that came with the Dayton Timberline L/T tires
> (31x10.5).
>
> I've put 2200 miles on them, and took them off-road today on some rocky
> trails (nothing too extreme, though - I'm still just learning off-road
> driving techniques).
>
> Later in the day, I stopped to clear a limb from the trail and heard a
> hissing sound. Yep - the rear driver's side tire was losing air - and
> fast!
>
> I had to switch to the spare (identical to the others) to get home.
>
> My question is - would another brand (say BFG AT) be less likely to
> puncture on rocky trail riding? I was dubious about these tires, even
> though they apparently received a high score from consumer reports.
>
> I will mix on-road and off-road driving, but the Jeep is *not* a daily
> driver. I want good trail performance (rocky trails, a little mud) and
> decent on-road snow performance.
>
> Should I consider trading these in on BFGs or some other brand? I really
> don't want to hassle with flat tires on the trail real often.
>
> BTW, I did *not* air down the tires before trail riding today - I didn't
> expect to do anything more than some gravel roads and light trails - the
> rocky trails were a kind of spur-of-the-moment decision, and turned out to
> be a little hairier than I had planned. Would airing down the tires have
> reduced my chances of a puncture?
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> PLM

Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:30:17 -0800, L.W.------ wrote:

> I use BF Goodrich All-Terrain KOs and the have weak side walls,
> too. This just the chance we have to take to be able to offroad, their
> flex may be the difference as to whether we are stuck or not. Sure I
> could buy truck tire with an eight ply rating, but they'd be digging
> holes like a TJ.
> Customer survey results:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Thanks for your comments, Bill. As it turns out, I was able to cut a deal
with the local Firestone dealer (the guy owns three jeeps, and when he saw
my muddy rig, he was real friendly, and even asked me to go four-wheeling
with him sometime). I traded in the Dayton AT's (a Firestone product)
with only 2200 miles on them for a set of five Firestone Destination MT's.

I know lots of people don't like Firestone products, but the new
Destination MT's have the highest rating on the MT survey at tirerack and
did well in a review in the November issue of "4-Wheel Drive and Sport
Utility" magazine. I don't mind the mild noise on the highway, and the
decreased wear of an MT tire also doesn't bother me at all. I think
there's a good chance these will do a better job for me in on-road snow
and on the types of trails I'm planning to run.

They have three-ply (rather than two-ply) sidewalls, and supposedly have
a sidewall tread pattern that helps reduce off-road damage.

Plus, they are great looking tires!

I'll let the group know how they perform after I get some experience with
them.

PLM

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Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:30:17 -0800, L.W.------ wrote:

> I use BF Goodrich All-Terrain KOs and the have weak side walls,
> too. This just the chance we have to take to be able to offroad, their
> flex may be the difference as to whether we are stuck or not. Sure I
> could buy truck tire with an eight ply rating, but they'd be digging
> holes like a TJ.
> Customer survey results:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Thanks for your comments, Bill. As it turns out, I was able to cut a deal
with the local Firestone dealer (the guy owns three jeeps, and when he saw
my muddy rig, he was real friendly, and even asked me to go four-wheeling
with him sometime). I traded in the Dayton AT's (a Firestone product)
with only 2200 miles on them for a set of five Firestone Destination MT's.

I know lots of people don't like Firestone products, but the new
Destination MT's have the highest rating on the MT survey at tirerack and
did well in a review in the November issue of "4-Wheel Drive and Sport
Utility" magazine. I don't mind the mild noise on the highway, and the
decreased wear of an MT tire also doesn't bother me at all. I think
there's a good chance these will do a better job for me in on-road snow
and on the types of trails I'm planning to run.

They have three-ply (rather than two-ply) sidewalls, and supposedly have
a sidewall tread pattern that helps reduce off-road damage.

Plus, they are great looking tires!

I'll let the group know how they perform after I get some experience with
them.

PLM

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Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:30:17 -0800, L.W.------ wrote:

> I use BF Goodrich All-Terrain KOs and the have weak side walls,
> too. This just the chance we have to take to be able to offroad, their
> flex may be the difference as to whether we are stuck or not. Sure I
> could buy truck tire with an eight ply rating, but they'd be digging
> holes like a TJ.
> Customer survey results:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Thanks for your comments, Bill. As it turns out, I was able to cut a deal
with the local Firestone dealer (the guy owns three jeeps, and when he saw
my muddy rig, he was real friendly, and even asked me to go four-wheeling
with him sometime). I traded in the Dayton AT's (a Firestone product)
with only 2200 miles on them for a set of five Firestone Destination MT's.

I know lots of people don't like Firestone products, but the new
Destination MT's have the highest rating on the MT survey at tirerack and
did well in a review in the November issue of "4-Wheel Drive and Sport
Utility" magazine. I don't mind the mild noise on the highway, and the
decreased wear of an MT tire also doesn't bother me at all. I think
there's a good chance these will do a better job for me in on-road snow
and on the types of trails I'm planning to run.

They have three-ply (rather than two-ply) sidewalls, and supposedly have
a sidewall tread pattern that helps reduce off-road damage.

Plus, they are great looking tires!

I'll let the group know how they perform after I get some experience with
them.

PLM

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Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

It that what he did with Explorer recalls. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Thanks for your comments, Bill. As it turns out, I was able to cut a deal
> with the local Firestone dealer (the guy owns three jeeps, and when he saw
> my muddy rig, he was real friendly, and even asked me to go four-wheeling
> with him sometime). I traded in the Dayton AT's (a Firestone product)
> with only 2200 miles on them for a set of five Firestone Destination MT's.
>
> I know lots of people don't like Firestone products, but the new
> Destination MT's have the highest rating on the MT survey at tirerack and
> did well in a review in the November issue of "4-Wheel Drive and Sport
> Utility" magazine. I don't mind the mild noise on the highway, and the
> decreased wear of an MT tire also doesn't bother me at all. I think
> there's a good chance these will do a better job for me in on-road snow
> and on the types of trails I'm planning to run.
>
> They have three-ply (rather than two-ply) sidewalls, and supposedly have
> a sidewall tread pattern that helps reduce off-road damage.
>
> Plus, they are great looking tires!
>
> I'll let the group know how they perform after I get some experience with
> them.
>
> PLM
>
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> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
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Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

It that what he did with Explorer recalls. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Thanks for your comments, Bill. As it turns out, I was able to cut a deal
> with the local Firestone dealer (the guy owns three jeeps, and when he saw
> my muddy rig, he was real friendly, and even asked me to go four-wheeling
> with him sometime). I traded in the Dayton AT's (a Firestone product)
> with only 2200 miles on them for a set of five Firestone Destination MT's.
>
> I know lots of people don't like Firestone products, but the new
> Destination MT's have the highest rating on the MT survey at tirerack and
> did well in a review in the November issue of "4-Wheel Drive and Sport
> Utility" magazine. I don't mind the mild noise on the highway, and the
> decreased wear of an MT tire also doesn't bother me at all. I think
> there's a good chance these will do a better job for me in on-road snow
> and on the types of trails I'm planning to run.
>
> They have three-ply (rather than two-ply) sidewalls, and supposedly have
> a sidewall tread pattern that helps reduce off-road damage.
>
> Plus, they are great looking tires!
>
> I'll let the group know how they perform after I get some experience with
> them.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||

Re: Dayton Timberline LT tires - more prone to puncture?
 

It that what he did with Explorer recalls. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Thanks for your comments, Bill. As it turns out, I was able to cut a deal
> with the local Firestone dealer (the guy owns three jeeps, and when he saw
> my muddy rig, he was real friendly, and even asked me to go four-wheeling
> with him sometime). I traded in the Dayton AT's (a Firestone product)
> with only 2200 miles on them for a set of five Firestone Destination MT's.
>
> I know lots of people don't like Firestone products, but the new
> Destination MT's have the highest rating on the MT survey at tirerack and
> did well in a review in the November issue of "4-Wheel Drive and Sport
> Utility" magazine. I don't mind the mild noise on the highway, and the
> decreased wear of an MT tire also doesn't bother me at all. I think
> there's a good chance these will do a better job for me in on-road snow
> and on the types of trails I'm planning to run.
>
> They have three-ply (rather than two-ply) sidewalls, and supposedly have
> a sidewall tread pattern that helps reduce off-road damage.
>
> Plus, they are great looking tires!
>
> I'll let the group know how they perform after I get some experience with
> them.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
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