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Lon 08-29-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Correcting speedo error
 
budman@frozenorth.ca proclaimed:
>>>
>>>Steve wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><budman@frozenorth.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:v7l4d3dda000p6j2ttiaec9b7chpl6srql@4ax.c om...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>A GPS is as accurate at calculating your vehicle speed as is a
>>>>>>'certified'
>>>>>>speedo in a police car. So when the speedometer in my 2006 Liberty was
>>>>>>registering 107 kph when the GPS was showing 120 kph, I mentioned
>>>>>>this at my
>>>>>>next service interval. The mechanic came up with a relatively easy
>>>>>>fix. He
>>>>>>re-programmed the computer to make it think I had different sized
>>>>>>tires on the
>>>>>>car. He got it dead on. However, the odometer still registers less
>>>>>>kilometers
>>>>>>than the GPS records. I have verified the GPS odometer with the
>>>>>>markers along
>>>>>>the highway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can anyone confirm that electronically altering the speedometer
>>>>>>reading would
>>>>>>not necessarily change the odometer as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it would alter the odometer too
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And that would be illegal no?
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>>No. It's never been illegal to correct your speedometer.
>>>
>>>tw

>
>
> Illegal to alter the odometer reading though. I even pulled the needle off the
> speedometer on my old Cherokee to re-adjust the speed to match a radar gun that
> was being operated in the passenger seat by a police officer.


Misunderstanding. Correcting your speedometer/odometer to either more
accurately or even less accurately isn't in any way shape or form
illegal. It is only if you alter the odometer reading to indicate a
lower mileage than accumulated. Grey areas possible in somve venues if
you intentionally alter the speedometer/odometer to accumulate waaay
less mileage than is being done. Further grey area if after having
observed an odometer that is overly accumulating you alter it backwards
to indicate the actual mileage--in some instances lawsuit level grey
area if it causes your warranty to expire early and you are using stock
tires and running gear. Dunno if anyone has collected on one of those
lawsuits, but they have been filed where there appears to be a pattern
of readings in the wrong direction.

budman@frozenorth.ca 08-30-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Correcting speedo error
 
>>
>>
>>budman@frozenorth.ca proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><budman@frozenorth.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:v7l4d3dda000p6j2ttiaec9b7chpl6srql@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A GPS is as accurate at calculating your vehicle speed as is a
>>>>>>>>'certified'
>>>>>>>>speedo in a police car. So when the speedometer in my 2006 Liberty was
>>>>>>>>registering 107 kph when the GPS was showing 120 kph, I mentioned
>>>>>>>>this at my
>>>>>>>>next service interval. The mechanic came up with a relatively easy
>>>>>>>>fix. He
>>>>>>>>re-programmed the computer to make it think I had different sized
>>>>>>>>tires on the
>>>>>>>>car. He got it dead on. However, the odometer still registers less
>>>>>>>>kilometers
>>>>>>>>than the GPS records. I have verified the GPS odometer with the
>>>>>>>>markers along
>>>>>>>>the highway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can anyone confirm that electronically altering the speedometer
>>>>>>>>reading would
>>>>>>>>not necessarily change the odometer as well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course it would alter the odometer too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And that would be illegal no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. It's never been illegal to correct your speedometer.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>
>>>
>>> Illegal to alter the odometer reading though. I even pulled the needle off

the
>>> speedometer on my old Cherokee to re-adjust the speed to match a radar gun

that
>>> was being operated in the passenger seat by a police officer.

>>
>>Misunderstanding. Correcting your speedometer/odometer to either more
>>accurately or even less accurately isn't in any way shape or form
>>illegal. It is only if you alter the odometer reading to indicate a
>>lower mileage than accumulated. Grey areas possible in somve venues if
>>you intentionally alter the speedometer/odometer to accumulate waaay
>>less mileage than is being done. Further grey area if after having
>>observed an odometer that is overly accumulating you alter it backwards
>>to indicate the actual mileage--in some instances lawsuit level grey
>>area if it causes your warranty to expire early and you are using stock
>>tires and running gear. Dunno if anyone has collected on one of those
>>lawsuits, but they have been filed where there appears to be a pattern
>>of readings in the wrong direction.


Actually, that's what I was infering, 'rolling' back the odometer is a no-no. I
remember long,long ago....... Almost every used vehicle taken in on trade at a
dealership where I worked had "special" instructions on the work order. Every
vehicle had a common problem... "Repair rattle in dash". That was before
"Nudge nudge, wink wink" was even heard of. :)


budman@frozenorth.ca 08-30-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Correcting speedo error
 
>>
>>
>>budman@frozenorth.ca proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><budman@frozenorth.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:v7l4d3dda000p6j2ttiaec9b7chpl6srql@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A GPS is as accurate at calculating your vehicle speed as is a
>>>>>>>>'certified'
>>>>>>>>speedo in a police car. So when the speedometer in my 2006 Liberty was
>>>>>>>>registering 107 kph when the GPS was showing 120 kph, I mentioned
>>>>>>>>this at my
>>>>>>>>next service interval. The mechanic came up with a relatively easy
>>>>>>>>fix. He
>>>>>>>>re-programmed the computer to make it think I had different sized
>>>>>>>>tires on the
>>>>>>>>car. He got it dead on. However, the odometer still registers less
>>>>>>>>kilometers
>>>>>>>>than the GPS records. I have verified the GPS odometer with the
>>>>>>>>markers along
>>>>>>>>the highway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can anyone confirm that electronically altering the speedometer
>>>>>>>>reading would
>>>>>>>>not necessarily change the odometer as well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course it would alter the odometer too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And that would be illegal no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. It's never been illegal to correct your speedometer.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>
>>>
>>> Illegal to alter the odometer reading though. I even pulled the needle off

the
>>> speedometer on my old Cherokee to re-adjust the speed to match a radar gun

that
>>> was being operated in the passenger seat by a police officer.

>>
>>Misunderstanding. Correcting your speedometer/odometer to either more
>>accurately or even less accurately isn't in any way shape or form
>>illegal. It is only if you alter the odometer reading to indicate a
>>lower mileage than accumulated. Grey areas possible in somve venues if
>>you intentionally alter the speedometer/odometer to accumulate waaay
>>less mileage than is being done. Further grey area if after having
>>observed an odometer that is overly accumulating you alter it backwards
>>to indicate the actual mileage--in some instances lawsuit level grey
>>area if it causes your warranty to expire early and you are using stock
>>tires and running gear. Dunno if anyone has collected on one of those
>>lawsuits, but they have been filed where there appears to be a pattern
>>of readings in the wrong direction.


Actually, that's what I was infering, 'rolling' back the odometer is a no-no. I
remember long,long ago....... Almost every used vehicle taken in on trade at a
dealership where I worked had "special" instructions on the work order. Every
vehicle had a common problem... "Repair rattle in dash". That was before
"Nudge nudge, wink wink" was even heard of. :)


budman@frozenorth.ca 08-30-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Correcting speedo error
 
>>
>>
>>budman@frozenorth.ca proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><budman@frozenorth.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:v7l4d3dda000p6j2ttiaec9b7chpl6srql@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A GPS is as accurate at calculating your vehicle speed as is a
>>>>>>>>'certified'
>>>>>>>>speedo in a police car. So when the speedometer in my 2006 Liberty was
>>>>>>>>registering 107 kph when the GPS was showing 120 kph, I mentioned
>>>>>>>>this at my
>>>>>>>>next service interval. The mechanic came up with a relatively easy
>>>>>>>>fix. He
>>>>>>>>re-programmed the computer to make it think I had different sized
>>>>>>>>tires on the
>>>>>>>>car. He got it dead on. However, the odometer still registers less
>>>>>>>>kilometers
>>>>>>>>than the GPS records. I have verified the GPS odometer with the
>>>>>>>>markers along
>>>>>>>>the highway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can anyone confirm that electronically altering the speedometer
>>>>>>>>reading would
>>>>>>>>not necessarily change the odometer as well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course it would alter the odometer too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And that would be illegal no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. It's never been illegal to correct your speedometer.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>
>>>
>>> Illegal to alter the odometer reading though. I even pulled the needle off

the
>>> speedometer on my old Cherokee to re-adjust the speed to match a radar gun

that
>>> was being operated in the passenger seat by a police officer.

>>
>>Misunderstanding. Correcting your speedometer/odometer to either more
>>accurately or even less accurately isn't in any way shape or form
>>illegal. It is only if you alter the odometer reading to indicate a
>>lower mileage than accumulated. Grey areas possible in somve venues if
>>you intentionally alter the speedometer/odometer to accumulate waaay
>>less mileage than is being done. Further grey area if after having
>>observed an odometer that is overly accumulating you alter it backwards
>>to indicate the actual mileage--in some instances lawsuit level grey
>>area if it causes your warranty to expire early and you are using stock
>>tires and running gear. Dunno if anyone has collected on one of those
>>lawsuits, but they have been filed where there appears to be a pattern
>>of readings in the wrong direction.


Actually, that's what I was infering, 'rolling' back the odometer is a no-no. I
remember long,long ago....... Almost every used vehicle taken in on trade at a
dealership where I worked had "special" instructions on the work order. Every
vehicle had a common problem... "Repair rattle in dash". That was before
"Nudge nudge, wink wink" was even heard of. :)


budman@frozenorth.ca 08-30-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Correcting speedo error
 
>>
>>
>>budman@frozenorth.ca proclaimed:
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><budman@frozenorth.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:v7l4d3dda000p6j2ttiaec9b7chpl6srql@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A GPS is as accurate at calculating your vehicle speed as is a
>>>>>>>>'certified'
>>>>>>>>speedo in a police car. So when the speedometer in my 2006 Liberty was
>>>>>>>>registering 107 kph when the GPS was showing 120 kph, I mentioned
>>>>>>>>this at my
>>>>>>>>next service interval. The mechanic came up with a relatively easy
>>>>>>>>fix. He
>>>>>>>>re-programmed the computer to make it think I had different sized
>>>>>>>>tires on the
>>>>>>>>car. He got it dead on. However, the odometer still registers less
>>>>>>>>kilometers
>>>>>>>>than the GPS records. I have verified the GPS odometer with the
>>>>>>>>markers along
>>>>>>>>the highway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can anyone confirm that electronically altering the speedometer
>>>>>>>>reading would
>>>>>>>>not necessarily change the odometer as well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course it would alter the odometer too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And that would be illegal no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. It's never been illegal to correct your speedometer.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>
>>>
>>> Illegal to alter the odometer reading though. I even pulled the needle off

the
>>> speedometer on my old Cherokee to re-adjust the speed to match a radar gun

that
>>> was being operated in the passenger seat by a police officer.

>>
>>Misunderstanding. Correcting your speedometer/odometer to either more
>>accurately or even less accurately isn't in any way shape or form
>>illegal. It is only if you alter the odometer reading to indicate a
>>lower mileage than accumulated. Grey areas possible in somve venues if
>>you intentionally alter the speedometer/odometer to accumulate waaay
>>less mileage than is being done. Further grey area if after having
>>observed an odometer that is overly accumulating you alter it backwards
>>to indicate the actual mileage--in some instances lawsuit level grey
>>area if it causes your warranty to expire early and you are using stock
>>tires and running gear. Dunno if anyone has collected on one of those
>>lawsuits, but they have been filed where there appears to be a pattern
>>of readings in the wrong direction.


Actually, that's what I was infering, 'rolling' back the odometer is a no-no. I
remember long,long ago....... Almost every used vehicle taken in on trade at a
dealership where I worked had "special" instructions on the work order. Every
vehicle had a common problem... "Repair rattle in dash". That was before
"Nudge nudge, wink wink" was even heard of. :)



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