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Joe 11-25-2003 05:03 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
"reply group" will reply to the post you are reading at the time.

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:bYPwb.39579$kL2.7136@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Off topic,..but why when I hit "reply group" on my outlook express does it
> not fall directly under what I replied to? It's not a "thread".
>
> Okay,..to your reply....yeah...I know. I got all to familiar with

replacing
> a head gasket on my 83 VW GTI. Timing is a bitch!!!!!!!!! I'm not looking
> forward to that at all.
> Allen
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bq0h19$1svmbh$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Yes to ticking time bomb. The good news is that replacing a head gasket

> is
> > a good way to get to know your vehicle better.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:rzPwb.39574$kL2.26226@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of the

> > motor
> > > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but does

> > that
> > > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water jacket

> into
> > > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket

> > outside
> > > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any

brown
> > > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when you

> pull
> > a
> > > headbolt??
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Joe 11-25-2003 05:03 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
"reply group" will reply to the post you are reading at the time.

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:bYPwb.39579$kL2.7136@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Off topic,..but why when I hit "reply group" on my outlook express does it
> not fall directly under what I replied to? It's not a "thread".
>
> Okay,..to your reply....yeah...I know. I got all to familiar with

replacing
> a head gasket on my 83 VW GTI. Timing is a bitch!!!!!!!!! I'm not looking
> forward to that at all.
> Allen
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bq0h19$1svmbh$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Yes to ticking time bomb. The good news is that replacing a head gasket

> is
> > a good way to get to know your vehicle better.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:rzPwb.39574$kL2.26226@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of the

> > motor
> > > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but does

> > that
> > > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water jacket

> into
> > > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket

> > outside
> > > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any

brown
> > > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when you

> pull
> > a
> > > headbolt??
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Joe 11-25-2003 05:03 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
"reply group" will reply to the post you are reading at the time.

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:bYPwb.39579$kL2.7136@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Off topic,..but why when I hit "reply group" on my outlook express does it
> not fall directly under what I replied to? It's not a "thread".
>
> Okay,..to your reply....yeah...I know. I got all to familiar with

replacing
> a head gasket on my 83 VW GTI. Timing is a bitch!!!!!!!!! I'm not looking
> forward to that at all.
> Allen
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bq0h19$1svmbh$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Yes to ticking time bomb. The good news is that replacing a head gasket

> is
> > a good way to get to know your vehicle better.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:rzPwb.39574$kL2.26226@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of the

> > motor
> > > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but does

> > that
> > > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water jacket

> into
> > > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket

> > outside
> > > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any

brown
> > > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when you

> pull
> > a
> > > headbolt??
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




11-25-2003 05:59 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
Okay....I'm replying to "group reply". We'll see what happens.
Allen

"Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote in message
news:bq0jio$1s9h30$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "reply group" will reply to the post you are reading at the time.
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:bYPwb.39579$kL2.7136@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Off topic,..but why when I hit "reply group" on my outlook express does

it
> > not fall directly under what I replied to? It's not a "thread".
> >
> > Okay,..to your reply....yeah...I know. I got all to familiar with

> replacing
> > a head gasket on my 83 VW GTI. Timing is a bitch!!!!!!!!! I'm not

looking
> > forward to that at all.
> > Allen
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bq0h19$1svmbh$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Yes to ticking time bomb. The good news is that replacing a head

gasket
> > is
> > > a good way to get to know your vehicle better.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:rzPwb.39574$kL2.26226@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of

the
> > > motor
> > > > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but

does
> > > that
> > > > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water

jacket
> > into
> > > > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket
> > > outside
> > > > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any

> brown
> > > > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when

you
> > pull
> > > a
> > > > headbolt??
> > > > Allen
> > > > 83 CJ7
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




11-25-2003 05:59 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
Okay....I'm replying to "group reply". We'll see what happens.
Allen

"Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote in message
news:bq0jio$1s9h30$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "reply group" will reply to the post you are reading at the time.
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:bYPwb.39579$kL2.7136@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Off topic,..but why when I hit "reply group" on my outlook express does

it
> > not fall directly under what I replied to? It's not a "thread".
> >
> > Okay,..to your reply....yeah...I know. I got all to familiar with

> replacing
> > a head gasket on my 83 VW GTI. Timing is a bitch!!!!!!!!! I'm not

looking
> > forward to that at all.
> > Allen
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bq0h19$1svmbh$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Yes to ticking time bomb. The good news is that replacing a head

gasket
> > is
> > > a good way to get to know your vehicle better.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:rzPwb.39574$kL2.26226@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of

the
> > > motor
> > > > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but

does
> > > that
> > > > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water

jacket
> > into
> > > > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket
> > > outside
> > > > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any

> brown
> > > > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when

you
> > pull
> > > a
> > > > headbolt??
> > > > Allen
> > > > 83 CJ7
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




11-25-2003 05:59 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
Okay....I'm replying to "group reply". We'll see what happens.
Allen

"Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote in message
news:bq0jio$1s9h30$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "reply group" will reply to the post you are reading at the time.
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:bYPwb.39579$kL2.7136@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Off topic,..but why when I hit "reply group" on my outlook express does

it
> > not fall directly under what I replied to? It's not a "thread".
> >
> > Okay,..to your reply....yeah...I know. I got all to familiar with

> replacing
> > a head gasket on my 83 VW GTI. Timing is a bitch!!!!!!!!! I'm not

looking
> > forward to that at all.
> > Allen
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bq0h19$1svmbh$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Yes to ticking time bomb. The good news is that replacing a head

gasket
> > is
> > > a good way to get to know your vehicle better.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:rzPwb.39574$kL2.26226@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of

the
> > > motor
> > > > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but

does
> > > that
> > > > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water

jacket
> > into
> > > > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket
> > > outside
> > > > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any

> brown
> > > > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when

you
> > pull
> > > a
> > > > headbolt??
> > > > Allen
> > > > 83 CJ7
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Mark Burns 11-26-2003 07:50 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
On the 258, there is only one head bolt that threads "into" the water jacket
and it's the front left bolt.
Someone could have drilled it deeper at some point, or it could be a factory
flaw.
My guess is it's the head gasket itself.

And Allen, don't worry about the timing. The 258 has it's camshaft down in
the block where they're supposed to be! There are no timing issues on
changing a head gasket on a 258 or a 4.0 for that matter.
The hardest part is picking it up off the block.

Mark

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FC3D068.A251A737@cox.net...
> Hi Allen,
> The head bolt is threaded straight into the water jacket, it could
> seap passed the thread and up the bolt's shaft without blowing the
> gasket. Maybe you got away with it, water pushing out under fifteen
> pound while it held the gasket at over two thousand pounds. I'd go ahead
> and change the oil, it does take very much ethylene glycol to eat the
> babbitt out of the bearings.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of the

motor
> > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but does

that
> > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water jacket

into
> > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket

outside
> > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any brown
> > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when you

pull a
> > headbolt??
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7




Mark Burns 11-26-2003 07:50 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
On the 258, there is only one head bolt that threads "into" the water jacket
and it's the front left bolt.
Someone could have drilled it deeper at some point, or it could be a factory
flaw.
My guess is it's the head gasket itself.

And Allen, don't worry about the timing. The 258 has it's camshaft down in
the block where they're supposed to be! There are no timing issues on
changing a head gasket on a 258 or a 4.0 for that matter.
The hardest part is picking it up off the block.

Mark

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FC3D068.A251A737@cox.net...
> Hi Allen,
> The head bolt is threaded straight into the water jacket, it could
> seap passed the thread and up the bolt's shaft without blowing the
> gasket. Maybe you got away with it, water pushing out under fifteen
> pound while it held the gasket at over two thousand pounds. I'd go ahead
> and change the oil, it does take very much ethylene glycol to eat the
> babbitt out of the bearings.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of the

motor
> > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but does

that
> > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water jacket

into
> > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket

outside
> > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any brown
> > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when you

pull a
> > headbolt??
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7




Mark Burns 11-26-2003 07:50 PM

Re: Coolant coming out of the headbolt!
 
On the 258, there is only one head bolt that threads "into" the water jacket
and it's the front left bolt.
Someone could have drilled it deeper at some point, or it could be a factory
flaw.
My guess is it's the head gasket itself.

And Allen, don't worry about the timing. The 258 has it's camshaft down in
the block where they're supposed to be! There are no timing issues on
changing a head gasket on a 258 or a 4.0 for that matter.
The hardest part is picking it up off the block.

Mark

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FC3D068.A251A737@cox.net...
> Hi Allen,
> The head bolt is threaded straight into the water jacket, it could
> seap passed the thread and up the bolt's shaft without blowing the
> gasket. Maybe you got away with it, water pushing out under fifteen
> pound while it held the gasket at over two thousand pounds. I'd go ahead
> and change the oil, it does take very much ethylene glycol to eat the
> babbitt out of the bearings.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > On my 258, coolant was spraying out of headbolt toward the rear of the

motor
> > (outside the valve cover). I retorqued it down and it's fine. but does

that
> > mean that coolant has broken through the gasket from the water jacket

into
> > the bolt shaft and is working its way through the rest of the gasket

outside
> > the motor? There is NO milky residue in the oil, nor is there any brown
> > sludge in the coolant. Is this a ticking time bomb or normal when you

pull a
> > headbolt??
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7




11-27-2003 09:13 AM

UK: Grand Cherokee Servicing in the UK?
 
Hi

I have just purchased a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7 Limited
and in needod a 'cost effective' company to perform a 60,000 mile service
(other than a main dealer) .
I am based in Herfordshire and willing to travel a reasonable distance if
the saving is to my benefit.

Also does anyone know if the cambelt is changed on a 60K service or is this
extra?

Thanks in advance.





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