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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
I was referring to the model of the Jeep... is it a 79? It would help if
you let us know exactly what you have (make, model, engine, transmission). Your clutch is definitely not adjusted properly or the linkage is defective. JimG "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:88f4ec61.0402242012.7a3c4eb1@posting.google.c om... > > I suspect you have clutch issues not transmission. Does it grind when > > trying to go into reverse at a standstill? > > > > Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have > been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running > to get it to go in.) > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics > > associated with the clutch. > > Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much > newer than 79. > > > It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you > > release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the > > floorboard? > > Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly > even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to > disengage. |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
I was referring to the model of the Jeep... is it a 79? It would help if
you let us know exactly what you have (make, model, engine, transmission). Your clutch is definitely not adjusted properly or the linkage is defective. JimG "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:88f4ec61.0402242012.7a3c4eb1@posting.google.c om... > > I suspect you have clutch issues not transmission. Does it grind when > > trying to go into reverse at a standstill? > > > > Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have > been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running > to get it to go in.) > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics > > associated with the clutch. > > Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much > newer than 79. > > > It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you > > release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the > > floorboard? > > Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly > even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to > disengage. |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
I was referring to the model of the Jeep... is it a 79? It would help if
you let us know exactly what you have (make, model, engine, transmission). Your clutch is definitely not adjusted properly or the linkage is defective. JimG "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:88f4ec61.0402242012.7a3c4eb1@posting.google.c om... > > I suspect you have clutch issues not transmission. Does it grind when > > trying to go into reverse at a standstill? > > > > Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have > been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running > to get it to go in.) > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics > > associated with the clutch. > > Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much > newer than 79. > > > It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you > > release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the > > floorboard? > > Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly > even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to > disengage. |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
NV4500 uses hydraulics.
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > clutch. > > JimG > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc hanging-up > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > after > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > is > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless you've > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > so > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > -jd > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > way in!!! > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
NV4500 uses hydraulics.
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > clutch. > > JimG > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc hanging-up > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > after > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > is > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless you've > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > so > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > -jd > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > way in!!! > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
NV4500 uses hydraulics.
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > clutch. > > JimG > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc hanging-up > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > after > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > is > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless you've > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > so > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > -jd > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > way in!!! > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Why?
Or better on what application? I mean I just helped a guy put a Mustang engine and T5 in his Jeep and no one could make the stock cable clutch work so I made him a stock CJ clutch linkage that works like a dream. If the guy wants the right answer, he should post what the heck he has. Mike jdarg wrote: > > NV4500 uses hydraulics. > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > > clutch. > > > > JimG > > > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc > hanging-up > > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > > after > > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > > is > > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless > you've > > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > > so > > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > > > -jd > > > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > > way in!!! > > > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Why?
Or better on what application? I mean I just helped a guy put a Mustang engine and T5 in his Jeep and no one could make the stock cable clutch work so I made him a stock CJ clutch linkage that works like a dream. If the guy wants the right answer, he should post what the heck he has. Mike jdarg wrote: > > NV4500 uses hydraulics. > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > > clutch. > > > > JimG > > > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc > hanging-up > > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > > after > > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > > is > > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless > you've > > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > > so > > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > > > -jd > > > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > > way in!!! > > > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Why?
Or better on what application? I mean I just helped a guy put a Mustang engine and T5 in his Jeep and no one could make the stock cable clutch work so I made him a stock CJ clutch linkage that works like a dream. If the guy wants the right answer, he should post what the heck he has. Mike jdarg wrote: > > NV4500 uses hydraulics. > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > > clutch. > > > > JimG > > > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc > hanging-up > > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > > after > > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > > is > > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless > you've > > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > > so > > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > > > -jd > > > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > > way in!!! > > > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
That manual transmission does not use hydraulics. It may be installed with
a clutch/bell housing that use hydraulics. The 79 CJ did not come original with a hydraulic clutch. The OP needs to give us some more information. JimG "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:yO4%b.9286736$Of.1529235@news.easynews.com... > NV4500 uses hydraulics. > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:HvQ_b.196$yA1.12@news02.roc.ny... > > The OP said it was a "25 year old Jeep", which will not have a hydraulic > > clutch. > > > > JimG > > > > "jdarg" <ruhle@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:R2Q_b.1054261$9p3.196040@news.easynews.com... > > > Clutch isn't releasing all the way. It's either a hydraulic problem (low > > > fluid, bad slave, bad master, etc.) or possibly the clutch disc > hanging-up > > > on the tranny input shaft because of rust, wear, etc. I had the latter > > > problem on my 94 when I first bought it - previous owner let it sit for > > > about a year which caused the clutch to "almost" disengage completely > > after > > > it warmed up. The tranny input shaft just needed a bit of grease to make > > > that disc slide well again. Working fine for almost two years since. 10K > > is > > > pretty soon to have issues with the clutch hanging up though unless > you've > > > been through lots of messy stuff or it wasn't done right the first time, > > so > > > I'd probably suspect hydraulic issues first. > > > > > > -jd > > > > > > "sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om... > > > > Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual > > > > transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift > > > > (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday, > > > > I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it > > > > to go into gear. > > > > > > > > Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level > > > > surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the > > > > way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st > > > > and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse! > > > > > > > > Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the > > > > way in!!! > > > > > > > > I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought > > > > I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple > > > > quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a > > > > transmission shop. > > > > > > > > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500 > > > > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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