clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
fair!
haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
a search of this group does not yield a single hit either

here's the problema-
the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
clutch and shift into first
but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
the pedal
i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
in the uptop position
folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
blame them
ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
the stubborn pedal again
this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
before
but i hit a brick again!

to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
the clutch pedal wouldn't move
but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
it lets right in
the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
any ideas?

fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir

it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
any input appreciated, tia

-pete

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

Peter D. did pass the time by typing:

> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?

Not a clutch expert, but that sounds to me like something is
binding. Either a link or a piston. But it's not common
at all for a piston to bind up.

> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia

--
DougW

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

Peter D. did pass the time by typing:

> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?

Not a clutch expert, but that sounds to me like something is
binding. Either a link or a piston. But it's not common
at all for a piston to bind up.

> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia

--
DougW

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

Peter D. did pass the time by typing:

> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?

Not a clutch expert, but that sounds to me like something is
binding. Either a link or a piston. But it's not common
at all for a piston to bind up.

> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia

--
DougW

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

I hazard a guess that your slave cylinder is hanging up. If the pedal
moved perhaps 1/2", I'd be inclined to look at the clutch plate.

The '91 YJ still used the internal slave so changing it out or even
checking it is a pain.

Peter D. wrote:
> why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
> fair!
> haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
> a search of this group does not yield a single hit either
>
> here's the problema-
> the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
> clutch and shift into first
> but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
> that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
> the pedal
> i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
> in the uptop position
> folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
> blame them
> ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
> a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
> the stubborn pedal again
> this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
> i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
> i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
> before
> but i hit a brick again!
>
> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?
>
> fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir
>
> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia
>
> -pete
>
>
>

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

I hazard a guess that your slave cylinder is hanging up. If the pedal
moved perhaps 1/2", I'd be inclined to look at the clutch plate.

The '91 YJ still used the internal slave so changing it out or even
checking it is a pain.

Peter D. wrote:
> why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
> fair!
> haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
> a search of this group does not yield a single hit either
>
> here's the problema-
> the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
> clutch and shift into first
> but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
> that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
> the pedal
> i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
> in the uptop position
> folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
> blame them
> ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
> a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
> the stubborn pedal again
> this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
> i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
> i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
> before
> but i hit a brick again!
>
> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?
>
> fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir
>
> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia
>
> -pete
>
>
>

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

I hazard a guess that your slave cylinder is hanging up. If the pedal
moved perhaps 1/2", I'd be inclined to look at the clutch plate.

The '91 YJ still used the internal slave so changing it out or even
checking it is a pain.

Peter D. wrote:
> why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
> fair!
> haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
> a search of this group does not yield a single hit either
>
> here's the problema-
> the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
> clutch and shift into first
> but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
> that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
> the pedal
> i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
> in the uptop position
> folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
> blame them
> ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
> a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
> the stubborn pedal again
> this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
> i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
> i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
> before
> but i hit a brick again!
>
> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?
>
> fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir
>
> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia
>
> -pete
>
>
>

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

Hi Peter,
One of the damper springs on the clutch disk has broken out and is
jammed in your pressure plate assembly: http://www.----------.com/clutch
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Peter D." wrote:
>
> why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
> fair!
> haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
> a search of this group does not yield a single hit either
>
> here's the problema-
> the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
> clutch and shift into first
> but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
> that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
> the pedal
> i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
> in the uptop position
> folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
> blame them
> ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
> a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
> the stubborn pedal again
> this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
> i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
> i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
> before
> but i hit a brick again!
>
> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?
>
> fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir
>
> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia
>
> -pete

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

Hi Peter,
One of the damper springs on the clutch disk has broken out and is
jammed in your pressure plate assembly: http://www.----------.com/clutch
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Peter D." wrote:
>
> why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
> fair!
> haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
> a search of this group does not yield a single hit either
>
> here's the problema-
> the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
> clutch and shift into first
> but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
> that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
> the pedal
> i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
> in the uptop position
> folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
> blame them
> ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
> a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
> the stubborn pedal again
> this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
> i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
> i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
> before
> but i hit a brick again!
>
> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?
>
> fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir
>
> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia
>
> -pete

Re: clutch problema, pls HELP!
 

Hi Peter,
One of the damper springs on the clutch disk has broken out and is
jammed in your pressure plate assembly: http://www.----------.com/clutch
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Peter D." wrote:
>
> why is it that i always run into the most unique problemas?! it's just not
> fair!
> haynes troubleshooting section does not cover it (forget chilton)
> a search of this group does not yield a single hit either
>
> here's the problema-
> the light just turned green at an intersection and so i wanted to hit the
> clutch and shift into first
> but...the clutch pedal wouldn't let me release it!
> that is, it just wouldn't go down, it felt as if someone put a brick under
> the pedal
> i frantically stepped on the pedal 3 or 4 times but it remained rock solid
> in the uptop position
> folks behind me started honking since i wasn't moving anywhere but i don't
> blame them
> ok, calm down, i'm thinking to myself
> a while later after everyone deserted the intersection i tried negotiating
> the stubborn pedal again
> this time, i pressed on it lightly at first but with increasing force
> i was stunned, the pedal went right in!
> i released the pedal and attemped to press it again as i did a million times
> before
> but i hit a brick again!
>
> to make a long story short, here's the bottom line-
> whenever sudden pressure is exerted against the pedal (as in normal driving)
> the clutch pedal wouldn't move
> but if i step on it gradually (taking some 3 secs to disengage the clutch)
> it lets right in
> the clutch works perfectly fine otherwise
> any ideas?
>
> fyi, the fluid level is where i left it last year- full reservoir
>
> it is a 91 i6 yj we're talking
> any input appreciated, tia
>
> -pete