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01-14-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Thanks for the help guys-

I asked at the parts counter about the nuts too... I was hoping they were
wrong but I kinda knew they were made that way.

Try doing this with no air tools and just yourself and 2 of the $10 3/8'
socket sets sometime lol ;o)

Fun inventing ways to jam one socket set against something around the
firewall in the engine compartment while you loosen the nuts inside with the
other socket set.

I dropped the tranny in my 76 camaro by myself to change the clutch a long
time ago when you could rent a lift... to say the least I was surprised how
heavy it was hehe... but didn't drop it. Swapped out the entire front body
section with new parts and then sent it to get painted.

Life's boring without a challenge now and then.

Skip


"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:WsgNb.94696$X%5.58802@pd7tw2no...
> As Mike says, they're lock nuts and they're on there for a reason, so put
> them back. Re the bleed screw, you're on the right track. Not only does

it
> feel like a zerk, it looks like one. Are you sure you're not over you're
> head here?
> <m> wrote in message news:bu40cj02fma@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Man!
> >
> > I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> > clutch master cylinder!!!
> >
> > The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> > other end...
> >
> > My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting

these
> > things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight

> those
> > things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts

look
> > ok.
> >
> > Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
> >
> > I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil

instead
> of
> > brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
> >
> > Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> > can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
> >
> > Skip
> > 86 Cherokee
> >
> >

>
>




01-14-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Thanks for the help guys-

I asked at the parts counter about the nuts too... I was hoping they were
wrong but I kinda knew they were made that way.

Try doing this with no air tools and just yourself and 2 of the $10 3/8'
socket sets sometime lol ;o)

Fun inventing ways to jam one socket set against something around the
firewall in the engine compartment while you loosen the nuts inside with the
other socket set.

I dropped the tranny in my 76 camaro by myself to change the clutch a long
time ago when you could rent a lift... to say the least I was surprised how
heavy it was hehe... but didn't drop it. Swapped out the entire front body
section with new parts and then sent it to get painted.

Life's boring without a challenge now and then.

Skip


"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:WsgNb.94696$X%5.58802@pd7tw2no...
> As Mike says, they're lock nuts and they're on there for a reason, so put
> them back. Re the bleed screw, you're on the right track. Not only does

it
> feel like a zerk, it looks like one. Are you sure you're not over you're
> head here?
> <m> wrote in message news:bu40cj02fma@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Man!
> >
> > I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> > clutch master cylinder!!!
> >
> > The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> > other end...
> >
> > My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting

these
> > things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight

> those
> > things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts

look
> > ok.
> >
> > Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
> >
> > I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil

instead
> of
> > brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
> >
> > Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> > can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
> >
> > Skip
> > 86 Cherokee
> >
> >

>
>




01-14-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Thanks for the help guys-

I asked at the parts counter about the nuts too... I was hoping they were
wrong but I kinda knew they were made that way.

Try doing this with no air tools and just yourself and 2 of the $10 3/8'
socket sets sometime lol ;o)

Fun inventing ways to jam one socket set against something around the
firewall in the engine compartment while you loosen the nuts inside with the
other socket set.

I dropped the tranny in my 76 camaro by myself to change the clutch a long
time ago when you could rent a lift... to say the least I was surprised how
heavy it was hehe... but didn't drop it. Swapped out the entire front body
section with new parts and then sent it to get painted.

Life's boring without a challenge now and then.

Skip


"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:WsgNb.94696$X%5.58802@pd7tw2no...
> As Mike says, they're lock nuts and they're on there for a reason, so put
> them back. Re the bleed screw, you're on the right track. Not only does

it
> feel like a zerk, it looks like one. Are you sure you're not over you're
> head here?
> <m> wrote in message news:bu40cj02fma@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Man!
> >
> > I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> > clutch master cylinder!!!
> >
> > The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> > other end...
> >
> > My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting

these
> > things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight

> those
> > things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts

look
> > ok.
> >
> > Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
> >
> > I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil

instead
> of
> > brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
> >
> > Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> > can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
> >
> > Skip
> > 86 Cherokee
> >
> >

>
>




Paul Calman 01-14-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Using an air tool on this type of nut can cause it to damage the bolt. I do
it by hand, but my socket set is pretty good.
Flare wrenches protect the hydraulic fasteners from damage when torquing, so
next time, it's not a nightmare.
If you intend to do your own work, quality tools are a worthy investment.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 01-14-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Using an air tool on this type of nut can cause it to damage the bolt. I do
it by hand, but my socket set is pretty good.
Flare wrenches protect the hydraulic fasteners from damage when torquing, so
next time, it's not a nightmare.
If you intend to do your own work, quality tools are a worthy investment.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 01-14-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Using an air tool on this type of nut can cause it to damage the bolt. I do
it by hand, but my socket set is pretty good.
Flare wrenches protect the hydraulic fasteners from damage when torquing, so
next time, it's not a nightmare.
If you intend to do your own work, quality tools are a worthy investment.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-14-2004 06:14 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Use two wrenches on it: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

m wrote:
>
> Man!
>
> I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> clutch master cylinder!!!
>
> The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> other end...
>
> My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting these
> things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight those
> things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts look
> ok.
>
> Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
>
> I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil instead of
> brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
>
> Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
>
> Skip
> 86 Cherokee


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-14-2004 06:14 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Use two wrenches on it: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

m wrote:
>
> Man!
>
> I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> clutch master cylinder!!!
>
> The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> other end...
>
> My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting these
> things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight those
> things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts look
> ok.
>
> Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
>
> I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil instead of
> brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
>
> Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
>
> Skip
> 86 Cherokee


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-14-2004 06:14 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Use two wrenches on it: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

m wrote:
>
> Man!
>
> I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> clutch master cylinder!!!
>
> The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> other end...
>
> My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting these
> things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight those
> things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts look
> ok.
>
> Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
>
> I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil instead of
> brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
>
> Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
>
> Skip
> 86 Cherokee


01-14-2004 06:32 PM

Re: Clutch master cylinder nuts are ovaled on one end???
 
Well I found a small tip for ya maybe... I picked up a 16mm open-end wrench
for a buck at the hock shop... I slide that onto the left-hand bolt head
inside the firewall and rest it against the brake master... then I tighten
from inside the vehicle with a 5/8 (close enuf) spark plug socket on a 3"
extension... on the right-hand bolt it's close enough to the body of the
master that it holds fast. I picked up a 16mm socket for a buck too, but had
to switch back to the deep socket pretty quick.

It went back on easier than it came off except for a stupid bracket inside
the cabin running from the firewall to the side panel by the firewall
(wtf?). The holes wouldn't like up so I had to rig some wire ties to hold it
in place... I had to pull the washer bottle too :o) But no wobble extension
needed.

So I get it all back together and I'm ready to work on bleeding... I'm
pumping the pedal...

And the *%$@#*!@ piston pulls completely out of the master... it just
dropped right the &%#$ out :o(

I am not a happy camper lol. Gotta call O'Reilly in a minute.

And I was liking this new master cyl... has a translucent plastic reservoir
with a bayonet cap... the body looks like steel instead of aluminum. But
man....

Grrr.... &*%#$@^!*


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4005CD43.8DF726B4@cox.net...
> Use two wrenches on it: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Man!
> >
> > I wanna meet the idiot who designed the nuts that go on the bolts for my
> > clutch master cylinder!!!
> >
> > The hole and threads are round on one end... and they are oval!! on the
> > other end...
> >
> > My gosh... what were they thinking? I had all kinds of heck getting

these
> > things out and I'm on my way to go get some new ones. Not gonna fight

those
> > things again putting em back in. The threads are toast but the bolts

look
> > ok.
> >
> > Could that be intentional to keep them from loosening?
> >
> > I think things would be much easier if they used say... olive oil

instead of
> > brake fluid :o). That stuff eats everything up lol.
> >
> > Also- anyone know where the bleed screw is on my external slave? I
> > can feel something on top... feels like a zerk maybe.
> >
> > Skip
> > 86 Cherokee





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