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Eric 01-05-2004 09:15 PM

Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty. After
discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution on
the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or third),
I put it back into 2hi.

Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads all
the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".

Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new wierd
clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...

Thanks.

Eric
99 TJ SE



Will Honea 01-06-2004 02:09 AM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 02:15:14 UTC "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:

> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty. After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...


It will do that if you wind the tc up without enough slippage. I get
every now and then if I use 4HI to get moving on a slick upslope and
turn at the same time onto a reasonably dry surface - think side
street onto a main drag type thing. If you aren't going straight
ahead, things get wound up and binding real fast. I normally use 4HI
just long enough to get moving good and pop it back to 2HI before I
even think about shifting out of 1st, especially if I'm going to hit
anything that looks like it has decent traction.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 01-06-2004 02:09 AM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 02:15:14 UTC "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:

> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty. After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...


It will do that if you wind the tc up without enough slippage. I get
every now and then if I use 4HI to get moving on a slick upslope and
turn at the same time onto a reasonably dry surface - think side
street onto a main drag type thing. If you aren't going straight
ahead, things get wound up and binding real fast. I normally use 4HI
just long enough to get moving good and pop it back to 2HI before I
even think about shifting out of 1st, especially if I'm going to hit
anything that looks like it has decent traction.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 01-06-2004 02:09 AM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 02:15:14 UTC "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote:

> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty. After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...


It will do that if you wind the tc up without enough slippage. I get
every now and then if I use 4HI to get moving on a slick upslope and
turn at the same time onto a reasonably dry surface - think side
street onto a main drag type thing. If you aren't going straight
ahead, things get wound up and binding real fast. I normally use 4HI
just long enough to get moving good and pop it back to 2HI before I
even think about shifting out of 1st, especially if I'm going to hit
anything that looks like it has decent traction.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

CRWLR 01-06-2004 03:20 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.

What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate, then
when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff to
disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
should be taking off with a little less gusto ...





"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



CRWLR 01-06-2004 03:20 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.

What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate, then
when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff to
disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
should be taking off with a little less gusto ...





"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



CRWLR 01-06-2004 03:20 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.

What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate, then
when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff to
disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
should be taking off with a little less gusto ...





"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>



Eric 01-06-2004 07:30 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say have
an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it out.
I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.

Eric
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
>
> What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate,

then
> when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff

to
> disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
>
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

> After
> > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

> on
> > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

> third),
> > I put it back into 2hi.
> >
> > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit

a
> > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

> all
> > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
> >
> > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

> wierd
> > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>




Eric 01-06-2004 07:30 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say have
an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it out.
I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.

Eric
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
>
> What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate,

then
> when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff

to
> disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
>
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

> After
> > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

> on
> > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

> third),
> > I put it back into 2hi.
> >
> > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit

a
> > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

> all
> > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
> >
> > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

> wierd
> > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>




Eric 01-06-2004 07:30 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say have
an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it out.
I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.

Eric
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
>
> What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate,

then
> when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff

to
> disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
>
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

> After
> > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

> on
> > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

> third),
> > I put it back into 2hi.
> >
> > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit

a
> > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

> all
> > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
> >
> > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

> wierd
> > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>




CRWLR 01-06-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
If you must use 4WD, then shift out of it earlier, and use as little gas as
possible.

Your tcase is a chain-driven unit, and when you shift out of 4WD, it takes a
while for the gears and such to actually disengage, this is why it takes so
long for the clunk to come.

The tcase has no differential capabilities, so the different speeds of the
front and rear tires will quickly bind it up to the point that it will not
disengage. The length of time it takes to disengage is a sign of how much
damage has been done to it, when it is new it should disengage pretty
quickly, but as the chain stretches, the time to disengage will become
longer and longer.

If you are seeing "normal" cars and trucks getting around town, then you
should be able to get around town in 2WD too. If you need 4WD to get going,
and you are driving the same as you do in summer, then you are binding the
tcase and stretching the chain.




"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rqIKb.6897$zf.1100@okepread05...
> Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say

have
> an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it

out.
> I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.
>
> Eric
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> > It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
> >
> > What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate,

> then
> > when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff

> to
> > disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> > damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> > should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

> > After
> > > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on

this
> > > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent

solution
> > on
> > > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

> > third),
> > > I put it back into 2hi.
> > >
> > > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I

hit
> a
> > > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these

roads
> > all
> > > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took

1/4
> > > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

> > wierd
> > > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



CRWLR 01-06-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
If you must use 4WD, then shift out of it earlier, and use as little gas as
possible.

Your tcase is a chain-driven unit, and when you shift out of 4WD, it takes a
while for the gears and such to actually disengage, this is why it takes so
long for the clunk to come.

The tcase has no differential capabilities, so the different speeds of the
front and rear tires will quickly bind it up to the point that it will not
disengage. The length of time it takes to disengage is a sign of how much
damage has been done to it, when it is new it should disengage pretty
quickly, but as the chain stretches, the time to disengage will become
longer and longer.

If you are seeing "normal" cars and trucks getting around town, then you
should be able to get around town in 2WD too. If you need 4WD to get going,
and you are driving the same as you do in summer, then you are binding the
tcase and stretching the chain.




"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rqIKb.6897$zf.1100@okepread05...
> Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say

have
> an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it

out.
> I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.
>
> Eric
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> > It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
> >
> > What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate,

> then
> > when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff

> to
> > disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> > damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> > should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

> > After
> > > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on

this
> > > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent

solution
> > on
> > > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

> > third),
> > > I put it back into 2hi.
> > >
> > > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I

hit
> a
> > > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these

roads
> > all
> > > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took

1/4
> > > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

> > wierd
> > > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



CRWLR 01-06-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
If you must use 4WD, then shift out of it earlier, and use as little gas as
possible.

Your tcase is a chain-driven unit, and when you shift out of 4WD, it takes a
while for the gears and such to actually disengage, this is why it takes so
long for the clunk to come.

The tcase has no differential capabilities, so the different speeds of the
front and rear tires will quickly bind it up to the point that it will not
disengage. The length of time it takes to disengage is a sign of how much
damage has been done to it, when it is new it should disengage pretty
quickly, but as the chain stretches, the time to disengage will become
longer and longer.

If you are seeing "normal" cars and trucks getting around town, then you
should be able to get around town in 2WD too. If you need 4WD to get going,
and you are driving the same as you do in summer, then you are binding the
tcase and stretching the chain.




"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rqIKb.6897$zf.1100@okepread05...
> Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say

have
> an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it

out.
> I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.
>
> Eric
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> > It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
> >
> > What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you accellerate,

> then
> > when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up stuff

> to
> > disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> > damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> > should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

> > After
> > > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on

this
> > > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent

solution
> > on
> > > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

> > third),
> > > I put it back into 2hi.
> > >
> > > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I

hit
> a
> > > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these

roads
> > all
> > > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took

1/4
> > > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

> > wierd
> > > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



Eric 01-06-2004 09:23 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when I
came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
that....

I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved, it
works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).

Eric
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvmm1o35q4sq7c@corp.supernews.com...
> If you must use 4WD, then shift out of it earlier, and use as little gas

as
> possible.
>
> Your tcase is a chain-driven unit, and when you shift out of 4WD, it takes

a
> while for the gears and such to actually disengage, this is why it takes

so
> long for the clunk to come.
>
> The tcase has no differential capabilities, so the different speeds of the
> front and rear tires will quickly bind it up to the point that it will not
> disengage. The length of time it takes to disengage is a sign of how much
> damage has been done to it, when it is new it should disengage pretty
> quickly, but as the chain stretches, the time to disengage will become
> longer and longer.
>
> If you are seeing "normal" cars and trucks getting around town, then you
> should be able to get around town in 2WD too. If you need 4WD to get

going,
> and you are driving the same as you do in summer, then you are binding the
> tcase and stretching the chain.
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:rqIKb.6897$zf.1100@okepread05...
> > Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say

> have
> > an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it

> out.
> > I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.
> >
> > Eric
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
> > >
> > > What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you

accellerate,
> > then
> > > when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up

stuff
> > to
> > > disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> > > damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> > > should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > > > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.
> > > After
> > > > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on

> this
> > > > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent

> solution
> > > on
> > > > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > > > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or
> > > third),
> > > > I put it back into 2hi.
> > > >
> > > > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I

> hit
> > a
> > > > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these

> roads
> > > all
> > > > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took

> 1/4
> > > > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it

"clunked".
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this

new
> > > wierd
> > > > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > > > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>




Eric 01-06-2004 09:23 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when I
came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
that....

I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved, it
works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).

Eric
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvmm1o35q4sq7c@corp.supernews.com...
> If you must use 4WD, then shift out of it earlier, and use as little gas

as
> possible.
>
> Your tcase is a chain-driven unit, and when you shift out of 4WD, it takes

a
> while for the gears and such to actually disengage, this is why it takes

so
> long for the clunk to come.
>
> The tcase has no differential capabilities, so the different speeds of the
> front and rear tires will quickly bind it up to the point that it will not
> disengage. The length of time it takes to disengage is a sign of how much
> damage has been done to it, when it is new it should disengage pretty
> quickly, but as the chain stretches, the time to disengage will become
> longer and longer.
>
> If you are seeing "normal" cars and trucks getting around town, then you
> should be able to get around town in 2WD too. If you need 4WD to get

going,
> and you are driving the same as you do in summer, then you are binding the
> tcase and stretching the chain.
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:rqIKb.6897$zf.1100@okepread05...
> > Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say

> have
> > an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it

> out.
> > I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.
> >
> > Eric
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
> > >
> > > What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you

accellerate,
> > then
> > > when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up

stuff
> > to
> > > disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> > > damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> > > should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > > > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.
> > > After
> > > > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on

> this
> > > > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent

> solution
> > > on
> > > > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > > > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or
> > > third),
> > > > I put it back into 2hi.
> > > >
> > > > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I

> hit
> > a
> > > > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these

> roads
> > > all
> > > > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took

> 1/4
> > > > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it

"clunked".
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this

new
> > > wierd
> > > > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > > > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>




Eric 01-06-2004 09:23 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when I
came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
that....

I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved, it
works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).

Eric
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvmm1o35q4sq7c@corp.supernews.com...
> If you must use 4WD, then shift out of it earlier, and use as little gas

as
> possible.
>
> Your tcase is a chain-driven unit, and when you shift out of 4WD, it takes

a
> while for the gears and such to actually disengage, this is why it takes

so
> long for the clunk to come.
>
> The tcase has no differential capabilities, so the different speeds of the
> front and rear tires will quickly bind it up to the point that it will not
> disengage. The length of time it takes to disengage is a sign of how much
> damage has been done to it, when it is new it should disengage pretty
> quickly, but as the chain stretches, the time to disengage will become
> longer and longer.
>
> If you are seeing "normal" cars and trucks getting around town, then you
> should be able to get around town in 2WD too. If you need 4WD to get

going,
> and you are driving the same as you do in summer, then you are binding the
> tcase and stretching the chain.
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:rqIKb.6897$zf.1100@okepread05...
> > Sooo, I shouldn't be using 4wd to pull out of intersections, that, say

> have
> > an incline and are covered in ice? REALLY? In 2wd, I'd never make it

> out.
> > I've tried and spin all over the place. Gusto or not.
> >
> > Eric
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vvm67mft1iik1a@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It is normal for the tcase to object to this sort of abuse.
> > >
> > > What is happening is that you are binding the tcase as you

accellerate,
> > then
> > > when you shift out of 4WD again, it takes a while for the bound up

stuff
> > to
> > > disengage. There is no real need to do what you are doing, and you are
> > > damaging stuff while you are what it is that yo do not need to do. You
> > > should be taking off with a little less gusto ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> > > > We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.
> > > After
> > > > discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on

> this
> > > > group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent

> solution
> > > on
> > > > the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> > > > snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or
> > > third),
> > > > I put it back into 2hi.
> > > >
> > > > Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I

> hit
> > a
> > > > ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these

> roads
> > > all
> > > > the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took

> 1/4
> > > > mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it

"clunked".
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this

new
> > > wierd
> > > > clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> > > > disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>




CRWLR 01-06-2004 09:45 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when

I
> came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> that....
>
> I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved,

it
> works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
>


It's the turning that binds the tcase. As I explained earlier, the tcase has
no differential-qualities that prevent stresses from building up, and the
front and rear travel different distances, which is what causes the stresses
to build up.

I live in sunny Southern California, and have never had to grapple with the
problems brought on by snow and ice, but if I took my Jeep up to the snow, I
think my strategy would be to engage 4WD when it was needed, not engage it
in the hopes of not needing it. Having said that, I have lockers front and
rear, and I have a complete other set of issues relative to my lockers to
worry about when driving on icy roads.





CRWLR 01-06-2004 09:45 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when

I
> came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> that....
>
> I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved,

it
> works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
>


It's the turning that binds the tcase. As I explained earlier, the tcase has
no differential-qualities that prevent stresses from building up, and the
front and rear travel different distances, which is what causes the stresses
to build up.

I live in sunny Southern California, and have never had to grapple with the
problems brought on by snow and ice, but if I took my Jeep up to the snow, I
think my strategy would be to engage 4WD when it was needed, not engage it
in the hopes of not needing it. Having said that, I have lockers front and
rear, and I have a complete other set of issues relative to my lockers to
worry about when driving on icy roads.





CRWLR 01-06-2004 09:45 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when

I
> came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> that....
>
> I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved,

it
> works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
>


It's the turning that binds the tcase. As I explained earlier, the tcase has
no differential-qualities that prevent stresses from building up, and the
front and rear travel different distances, which is what causes the stresses
to build up.

I live in sunny Southern California, and have never had to grapple with the
problems brought on by snow and ice, but if I took my Jeep up to the snow, I
think my strategy would be to engage 4WD when it was needed, not engage it
in the hopes of not needing it. Having said that, I have lockers front and
rear, and I have a complete other set of issues relative to my lockers to
worry about when driving on icy roads.





mabar 01-06-2004 09:52 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Eric:

It's the turn on dry pavement that is the problem. The drivetrain will bind
up almost instantly during a turn. The sharper the turn, the quicker and
harder the drivetrain will bind up. Turns on dry pavement while in 4WD are a
definite NO NO.

Tom

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when

I
> came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> that....
>
> I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved,

it
> works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
>
> Eric

snip



mabar 01-06-2004 09:52 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Eric:

It's the turn on dry pavement that is the problem. The drivetrain will bind
up almost instantly during a turn. The sharper the turn, the quicker and
harder the drivetrain will bind up. Turns on dry pavement while in 4WD are a
definite NO NO.

Tom

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when

I
> came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> that....
>
> I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved,

it
> works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
>
> Eric

snip



mabar 01-06-2004 09:52 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Eric:

It's the turn on dry pavement that is the problem. The drivetrain will bind
up almost instantly during a turn. The sharper the turn, the quicker and
harder the drivetrain will bind up. Turns on dry pavement while in 4WD are a
definite NO NO.

Tom

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was when

I
> came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> that....
>
> I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something paved,

it
> works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
>
> Eric

snip



Eric 01-06-2004 10:59 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
I will definitely avoid this in the future. Could I have done any permanent
damage?!? It seems to work just fine when I'm not doing anything stupid
like turning onto dry pavement...

Eric
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:WvOdnXq0AejJ6WaiRVn-jw@gbronline.com...
> Eric:
>
> It's the turn on dry pavement that is the problem. The drivetrain will

bind
> up almost instantly during a turn. The sharper the turn, the quicker and
> harder the drivetrain will bind up. Turns on dry pavement while in 4WD are

a
> definite NO NO.
>
> Tom
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> > It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was

when
> I
> > came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> > quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> > that....
> >
> > I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something

paved,
> it
> > works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
> >
> > Eric

> snip
>
>




Eric 01-06-2004 10:59 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
I will definitely avoid this in the future. Could I have done any permanent
damage?!? It seems to work just fine when I'm not doing anything stupid
like turning onto dry pavement...

Eric
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:WvOdnXq0AejJ6WaiRVn-jw@gbronline.com...
> Eric:
>
> It's the turn on dry pavement that is the problem. The drivetrain will

bind
> up almost instantly during a turn. The sharper the turn, the quicker and
> harder the drivetrain will bind up. Turns on dry pavement while in 4WD are

a
> definite NO NO.
>
> Tom
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> > It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was

when
> I
> > came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> > quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> > that....
> >
> > I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something

paved,
> it
> > works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
> >
> > Eric

> snip
>
>




Eric 01-06-2004 10:59 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
I will definitely avoid this in the future. Could I have done any permanent
damage?!? It seems to work just fine when I'm not doing anything stupid
like turning onto dry pavement...

Eric
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:WvOdnXq0AejJ6WaiRVn-jw@gbronline.com...
> Eric:
>
> It's the turn on dry pavement that is the problem. The drivetrain will

bind
> up almost instantly during a turn. The sharper the turn, the quicker and
> harder the drivetrain will bind up. Turns on dry pavement while in 4WD are

a
> definite NO NO.
>
> Tom
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:C4KKb.6923$zf.4617@okepread05...
> > It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was

when
> I
> > came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a road that
> > quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess I'll stop doing
> > that....
> >
> > I've used it since, and as long as I am not turning onto something

paved,
> it
> > works just fine (i.e. disengages just about instantly).
> >
> > Eric

> snip
>
>




Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
On 06 Jan 2004 05:23 PM, Eric posted the following:
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was
> when I came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a
> road that quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess
> I'll stop doing that....


When I shift from 4hi to 2hi at speed, I usually let off the throttle
for a brief instant right after shifting the lever. This unloads the
drivetrain and allows the transfer case to disengage easier.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
On 06 Jan 2004 05:23 PM, Eric posted the following:
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was
> when I came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a
> road that quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess
> I'll stop doing that....


When I shift from 4hi to 2hi at speed, I usually let off the throttle
for a brief instant right after shifting the lever. This unloads the
drivetrain and allows the transfer case to disengage easier.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
On 06 Jan 2004 05:23 PM, Eric posted the following:
> It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was
> when I came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a
> road that quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess
> I'll stop doing that....


When I shift from 4hi to 2hi at speed, I usually let off the throttle
for a brief instant right after shifting the lever. This unloads the
drivetrain and allows the transfer case to disengage easier.

----------------------------------------------------
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Bob 01-07-2004 11:17 AM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Same here; I not only let off the throttle, but I go ahead and put the
clutch in so I make sure there is absolutely no input from the
engine/tranny side of the t-case. In the case of turning a corner from
a slushy road onto a dry main road, I will usually use 4wd, 1st gear
to get going, and then put the clutch in, shift to second, AND pop it
into two wheel, if the road is dry, right before begin turning the
wheel to aim down the main road. No binding occurs, but I get to take
advantage of the 4wheel to easily start from the light.

Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:<20040106192203215-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> On 06 Jan 2004 05:23 PM, Eric posted the following:
> > It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was
> > when I came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a
> > road that quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess
> > I'll stop doing that....

>
> When I shift from 4hi to 2hi at speed, I usually let off the throttle
> for a brief instant right after shifting the lever. This unloads the
> drivetrain and allows the transfer case to disengage easier.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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Bob 01-07-2004 11:17 AM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Same here; I not only let off the throttle, but I go ahead and put the
clutch in so I make sure there is absolutely no input from the
engine/tranny side of the t-case. In the case of turning a corner from
a slushy road onto a dry main road, I will usually use 4wd, 1st gear
to get going, and then put the clutch in, shift to second, AND pop it
into two wheel, if the road is dry, right before begin turning the
wheel to aim down the main road. No binding occurs, but I get to take
advantage of the 4wheel to easily start from the light.

Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:<20040106192203215-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> On 06 Jan 2004 05:23 PM, Eric posted the following:
> > It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was
> > when I came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a
> > road that quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess
> > I'll stop doing that....

>
> When I shift from 4hi to 2hi at speed, I usually let off the throttle
> for a brief instant right after shifting the lever. This unloads the
> drivetrain and allows the transfer case to disengage easier.
>
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Bob 01-07-2004 11:17 AM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Same here; I not only let off the throttle, but I go ahead and put the
clutch in so I make sure there is absolutely no input from the
engine/tranny side of the t-case. In the case of turning a corner from
a slushy road onto a dry main road, I will usually use 4wd, 1st gear
to get going, and then put the clutch in, shift to second, AND pop it
into two wheel, if the road is dry, right before begin turning the
wheel to aim down the main road. No binding occurs, but I get to take
advantage of the 4wheel to easily start from the light.

Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:<20040106192203215-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> On 06 Jan 2004 05:23 PM, Eric posted the following:
> > It normally disengages almost instantly. The two times it hasn't was
> > when I came from a stop sign (slick/slushy/snowy) and TURNED onto a
> > road that quickly turned to dry surface that this happened. Guess
> > I'll stop doing that....

>
> When I shift from 4hi to 2hi at speed, I usually let off the throttle
> for a brief instant right after shifting the lever. This unloads the
> drivetrain and allows the transfer case to disengage easier.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/


CRWLR 01-07-2004 02:56 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:NuLKb.6938$zf.3860@okepread05...
> I will definitely avoid this in the future. Could I have done any

permanent
> damage?!? It seems to work just fine when I'm not doing anything stupid
> like turning onto dry pavement...
>


Probably not. The chain has to stretch quite a bit before it causes a
problem. You described EXACTLY what happens when the tcase is bound up. Now
you know why it binds, and what to do to avoid this.




CRWLR 01-07-2004 02:56 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:NuLKb.6938$zf.3860@okepread05...
> I will definitely avoid this in the future. Could I have done any

permanent
> damage?!? It seems to work just fine when I'm not doing anything stupid
> like turning onto dry pavement...
>


Probably not. The chain has to stretch quite a bit before it causes a
problem. You described EXACTLY what happens when the tcase is bound up. Now
you know why it binds, and what to do to avoid this.




CRWLR 01-07-2004 02:56 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 

"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:NuLKb.6938$zf.3860@okepread05...
> I will definitely avoid this in the future. Could I have done any

permanent
> damage?!? It seems to work just fine when I'm not doing anything stupid
> like turning onto dry pavement...
>


Probably not. The chain has to stretch quite a bit before it causes a
problem. You described EXACTLY what happens when the tcase is bound up. Now
you know why it binds, and what to do to avoid this.




Clap Trap 01-09-2004 04:15 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Normal. Remember... Going into 4wd, Gas on while shifting, ease off. To go
back to 2wd, gas on while shifting, ease off. Your clunk will go away if
you do the shift right. Leave your hand on the lever and you can feel it
shift out as you let off the gas.

However, if you drive for a while on pavement, you will still get the clunk
sometimes due to drivetrain wind up.


"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Clap Trap 01-09-2004 04:15 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Normal. Remember... Going into 4wd, Gas on while shifting, ease off. To go
back to 2wd, gas on while shifting, ease off. Your clunk will go away if
you do the shift right. Leave your hand on the lever and you can feel it
shift out as you let off the gas.

However, if you drive for a while on pavement, you will still get the clunk
sometimes due to drivetrain wind up.


"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Clap Trap 01-09-2004 04:15 PM

Re: Clunk after switching from 4hi
 
Normal. Remember... Going into 4wd, Gas on while shifting, ease off. To go
back to 2wd, gas on while shifting, ease off. Your clunk will go away if
you do the shift right. Leave your hand on the lever and you can feel it
shift out as you let off the gas.

However, if you drive for a while on pavement, you will still get the clunk
sometimes due to drivetrain wind up.


"Eric" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:RSoKb.4765$zf.1609@okepread05...
> We got a bit of snow this weekend making intersections pretty nasty.

After
> discussing the use of my 99 TJ's xfer case last winter with some on this
> group, I have been using 4hi as more of a gear than a permanent solution

on
> the roads. Basically, I put it in 4hi at intersections (especially
> snowy/slushy/inclined ones) take off, and as I shift into second (or

third),
> I put it back into 2hi.
>
> Twice today, about 1/4 mile AFTER putting it into 2hi it felt like I hit a
> ridge in the concrete with my front tires. However, I drive these roads

all
> the time and there is no ridge. It's almost like the xfer case took 1/4
> mile to do whatever it was going to do, and when it did, it "clunked".
>
> Any thoughts on this? 4hi/4lo seem to work great other than this new

wierd
> clunk (which only happens when accelerating up to 35-45 mph AFTER
> disengaging 4hi). I only have 39k miles...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>





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