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Clint 12-06-2006 03:40 PM

Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and radiator
replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively straightforward (if
time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone have a website that itemizes
the radiator replacement? I've found one, but more information is usually
good.

Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when replacing parts
that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm going to be replacing the
hoses at the same time; the thermostat was done recently, so that shouldn't
be an issue. I also need to replace the PVC valve, and apparently some of
the hoses for that.

Clint


DougW 12-06-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Clint wrote:
> My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
> radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
> straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
> have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
> one, but more information is usually good.
>
> Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
> replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
> going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
> done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
> the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.


Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
will help a lot.

My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
the new one.

Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
crossbrace holds the hood latch.

If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
fittings, just keep it out of the line.

While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.

Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
off.

Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
the radiator when you install it.

May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
fittings and the ol garden hose. :)

This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.

Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
(if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.

--
DougW



DougW 12-06-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Clint wrote:
> My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
> radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
> straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
> have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
> one, but more information is usually good.
>
> Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
> replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
> going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
> done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
> the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.


Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
will help a lot.

My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
the new one.

Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
crossbrace holds the hood latch.

If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
fittings, just keep it out of the line.

While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.

Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
off.

Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
the radiator when you install it.

May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
fittings and the ol garden hose. :)

This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.

Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
(if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.

--
DougW



DougW 12-06-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Clint wrote:
> My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
> radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
> straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
> have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
> one, but more information is usually good.
>
> Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
> replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
> going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
> done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
> the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.


Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
will help a lot.

My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
the new one.

Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
crossbrace holds the hood latch.

If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
fittings, just keep it out of the line.

While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.

Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
off.

Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
the radiator when you install it.

May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
fittings and the ol garden hose. :)

This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.

Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
(if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.

--
DougW



Earle Horton 12-06-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Often one sees teflon tape on the threads of flare or compression fittings,
such as in-radiator transmission coolers, gas fittings, or even sink drain
compression fittings. Tape or thread sealant on these types of fittings
doesn't seal anything, because the thread is not the part where leaks occur.
Still, one sees it. A tiny bit of anti-seize compound or thread sealer
could prevent corrosion and certainly won't harm anything if applied as Doug
suggests. I have seen cases where it looked like it had been applied with a
drywall spatula. I guess some people think that if a little is good, a lot
is great.

Earle

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:MaGdh.4051$Rj.1359@newsfe19.lga...
> Clint wrote:
> > My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
> > radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
> > straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
> > have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
> > one, but more information is usually good.
> >
> > Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
> > replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
> > going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
> > done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
> > the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.

>
> Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
> will help a lot.
>
> My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
> close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
> mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
> the new one.
>
> Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
> where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
> crossbrace holds the hood latch.
>
> If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
> to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
> leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
> to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
> fittings, just keep it out of the line.
>
> While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.
>
> Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
> new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
> off.
>
> Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
> the radiator when you install it.
>
> May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
> fittings and the ol garden hose. :)
>
> This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
> replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.
>
> Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
> (if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Earle Horton 12-06-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Often one sees teflon tape on the threads of flare or compression fittings,
such as in-radiator transmission coolers, gas fittings, or even sink drain
compression fittings. Tape or thread sealant on these types of fittings
doesn't seal anything, because the thread is not the part where leaks occur.
Still, one sees it. A tiny bit of anti-seize compound or thread sealer
could prevent corrosion and certainly won't harm anything if applied as Doug
suggests. I have seen cases where it looked like it had been applied with a
drywall spatula. I guess some people think that if a little is good, a lot
is great.

Earle

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:MaGdh.4051$Rj.1359@newsfe19.lga...
> Clint wrote:
> > My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
> > radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
> > straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
> > have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
> > one, but more information is usually good.
> >
> > Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
> > replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
> > going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
> > done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
> > the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.

>
> Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
> will help a lot.
>
> My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
> close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
> mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
> the new one.
>
> Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
> where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
> crossbrace holds the hood latch.
>
> If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
> to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
> leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
> to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
> fittings, just keep it out of the line.
>
> While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.
>
> Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
> new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
> off.
>
> Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
> the radiator when you install it.
>
> May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
> fittings and the ol garden hose. :)
>
> This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
> replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.
>
> Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
> (if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Earle Horton 12-06-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Often one sees teflon tape on the threads of flare or compression fittings,
such as in-radiator transmission coolers, gas fittings, or even sink drain
compression fittings. Tape or thread sealant on these types of fittings
doesn't seal anything, because the thread is not the part where leaks occur.
Still, one sees it. A tiny bit of anti-seize compound or thread sealer
could prevent corrosion and certainly won't harm anything if applied as Doug
suggests. I have seen cases where it looked like it had been applied with a
drywall spatula. I guess some people think that if a little is good, a lot
is great.

Earle

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:MaGdh.4051$Rj.1359@newsfe19.lga...
> Clint wrote:
> > My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
> > radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
> > straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
> > have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
> > one, but more information is usually good.
> >
> > Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
> > replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
> > going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
> > done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
> > the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.

>
> Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
> will help a lot.
>
> My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
> close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
> mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
> the new one.
>
> Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
> where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
> crossbrace holds the hood latch.
>
> If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
> to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
> leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
> to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
> fittings, just keep it out of the line.
>
> While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.
>
> Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
> new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
> off.
>
> Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
> the radiator when you install it.
>
> May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
> fittings and the ol garden hose. :)
>
> This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
> replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.
>
> Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
> (if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Clint 12-06-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Thanks for the input so far, guys.

One question... Was the transmission cooler just part of the automatic
transmission package, or could I have one on my 5-speed? I don't have the
Jeep here now, so I can't check for extra hoses going to the radiator. But
I'm guessing that I have to get the correct radiator if I need one with a
transmission cooler built in.

Clint

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:457746f3$0$3490$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Often one sees teflon tape on the threads of flare or compression
> fittings,
> such as in-radiator transmission coolers, gas fittings, or even sink drain
> compression fittings. Tape or thread sealant on these types of fittings
> doesn't seal anything, because the thread is not the part where leaks
> occur.
> Still, one sees it. A tiny bit of anti-seize compound or thread sealer
> could prevent corrosion and certainly won't harm anything if applied as
> Doug
> suggests. I have seen cases where it looked like it had been applied with
> a
> drywall spatula. I guess some people think that if a little is good, a
> lot
> is great.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:MaGdh.4051$Rj.1359@newsfe19.lga...
>> Clint wrote:
>> > My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
>> > radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
>> > straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
>> > have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
>> > one, but more information is usually good.
>> >
>> > Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
>> > replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
>> > going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
>> > done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
>> > the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.

>>
>> Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
>> will help a lot.
>>
>> My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
>> close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
>> mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
>> the new one.
>>
>> Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
>> where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
>> crossbrace holds the hood latch.
>>
>> If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
>> to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
>> leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
>> to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
>> fittings, just keep it out of the line.
>>
>> While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.
>>
>> Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
>> new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
>> off.
>>
>> Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
>> the radiator when you install it.
>>
>> May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
>> fittings and the ol garden hose. :)
>>
>> This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
>> replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.
>>
>> Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
>> (if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>

>
>



Clint 12-06-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Thanks for the input so far, guys.

One question... Was the transmission cooler just part of the automatic
transmission package, or could I have one on my 5-speed? I don't have the
Jeep here now, so I can't check for extra hoses going to the radiator. But
I'm guessing that I have to get the correct radiator if I need one with a
transmission cooler built in.

Clint

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:457746f3$0$3490$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Often one sees teflon tape on the threads of flare or compression
> fittings,
> such as in-radiator transmission coolers, gas fittings, or even sink drain
> compression fittings. Tape or thread sealant on these types of fittings
> doesn't seal anything, because the thread is not the part where leaks
> occur.
> Still, one sees it. A tiny bit of anti-seize compound or thread sealer
> could prevent corrosion and certainly won't harm anything if applied as
> Doug
> suggests. I have seen cases where it looked like it had been applied with
> a
> drywall spatula. I guess some people think that if a little is good, a
> lot
> is great.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:MaGdh.4051$Rj.1359@newsfe19.lga...
>> Clint wrote:
>> > My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
>> > radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
>> > straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
>> > have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
>> > one, but more information is usually good.
>> >
>> > Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
>> > replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
>> > going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
>> > done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
>> > the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.

>>
>> Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
>> will help a lot.
>>
>> My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
>> close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
>> mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
>> the new one.
>>
>> Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
>> where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
>> crossbrace holds the hood latch.
>>
>> If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
>> to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
>> leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
>> to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
>> fittings, just keep it out of the line.
>>
>> While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.
>>
>> Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
>> new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
>> off.
>>
>> Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
>> the radiator when you install it.
>>
>> May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
>> fittings and the ol garden hose. :)
>>
>> This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
>> replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.
>>
>> Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
>> (if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>

>
>



Clint 12-06-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Clear instructions to replace radiator in '88 Jeep Comanchee?
 
Thanks for the input so far, guys.

One question... Was the transmission cooler just part of the automatic
transmission package, or could I have one on my 5-speed? I don't have the
Jeep here now, so I can't check for extra hoses going to the radiator. But
I'm guessing that I have to get the correct radiator if I need one with a
transmission cooler built in.

Clint

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:457746f3$0$3490$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Often one sees teflon tape on the threads of flare or compression
> fittings,
> such as in-radiator transmission coolers, gas fittings, or even sink drain
> compression fittings. Tape or thread sealant on these types of fittings
> doesn't seal anything, because the thread is not the part where leaks
> occur.
> Still, one sees it. A tiny bit of anti-seize compound or thread sealer
> could prevent corrosion and certainly won't harm anything if applied as
> Doug
> suggests. I have seen cases where it looked like it had been applied with
> a
> drywall spatula. I guess some people think that if a little is good, a
> lot
> is great.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:MaGdh.4051$Rj.1359@newsfe19.lga...
>> Clint wrote:
>> > My cooling system woes continue, this time with a water pump and
>> > radiator replacement. Both seem like they should be relatively
>> > straightforward (if time-consuming) replacements, but does anyone
>> > have a website that itemizes the radiator replacement? I've found
>> > one, but more information is usually good.
>> >
>> > Any real "gotcha's", besides the fun that often happens when
>> > replacing parts that haven't been off the truck in 18 years? I'm
>> > going to be replacing the hoses at the same time; the thermostat was
>> > done recently, so that shouldn't be an issue. I also need to replace
>> > the PVC valve, and apparently some of the hoses for that.

>>
>> Oh yea.. antifreeze goes all over the damn place. Rags and buckets
>> will help a lot.
>>
>> My experiences on the 93 ZJ told me the aftermarket radiators are
>> close but not exactly like the OEM. Mainly the fiddly bits, rubber
>> mounts, foam, etc has to be taken off the old radiator and fit to
>> the new one.
>>
>> Mark any cross braces you take off, so you can put them back
>> where they belong. This is important on the ZJ because the
>> crossbrace holds the hood latch.
>>
>> If you have a transmission cooler in the radiator, pay attention
>> to the fittings and get them tightened down properly or you will
>> leave a trail of tranny fluid all over the place. :( It helps
>> to put a teeny bit of thread sealant (not teflon tape) on the
>> fittings, just keep it out of the line.
>>
>> While you have the hoses off it's a good time to replace them.
>>
>> Don't reuse the spring clamps if that's what you have. Get some
>> new hose clamps and remember to bend the ends over so they don't back
>> off.
>>
>> Put a piece of cardboard between the fan and the radiator to protect
>> the radiator when you install it.
>>
>> May as well flush the engine while your in there. I used a few
>> fittings and the ol garden hose. :)
>>
>> This is also an easy time to get at the power steering box and
>> replace any worn hoses. Same with the heater hoses.
>>
>> Another thing to look at while your there is the harmonic balancer
>> (if you have one) Make sure it's not walking off.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>>

>
>




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