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William Oliveri 10-02-2003 01:09 PM

Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
filter hooks onto?

thanks,

bill



Mike Romain 10-02-2003 01:28 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Yes or find a vacuum line to suck the fluid in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> filter hooks onto?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill


Mike Romain 10-02-2003 01:28 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Yes or find a vacuum line to suck the fluid in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> filter hooks onto?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-02-2003 01:56 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Just keep using a major gasoline and your chambers and spark plugs
will never carbon foul, and your injectors will stay clean.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> filter hooks onto?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-02-2003 01:56 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Just keep using a major gasoline and your chambers and spark plugs
will never carbon foul, and your injectors will stay clean.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> filter hooks onto?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill


William Oliveri 10-02-2003 02:09 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Well, I believe my jeep was running really rich before I put the FI on. A
couple of reasons I believe this. First, I couldn't get rid of the stinky
smell even after I put a new O2 sensor in. Then, when I removed the exhaust
manifold to put a new gasket on I noticed the previous owner or his mechanic
didn't use all the bolts to tighten the manifold down. I know this because
the manifold would not line up to the bolt holes on the head. I had to
grind out the end bolt holes amoung others to get it to fit properly. So I
suspect it wasn't on there very well and so the O2 sensor couldn't
compensate properly.

Now it's on there correctly, nice and snug but I'm afraid it has accumulated
bunches of carbon.

Previously I mentioned I wasn't hearing any pinging from the engine since I
put the MPI kit on. That has changed. Before I didn't have the distributor
seated correctly because I didn't have an indexing pin. I since got one and
seated it correctly and although it's running much better I'm now getting
ping. I up'd the Octane to no avail so I'm going to JeepsRUs who told me
they can advance the timing to get rid of the ping.

I was thinking that accumulated carbon may also be a cause of it pinging.
I'm going down there today to see what can be done.

thanks,

bill


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C66BA.84633EC7@cox.net...
> Just keep using a major gasoline and your chambers and spark plugs
> will never carbon foul, and your injectors will stay clean.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> > would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> > filter hooks onto?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > bill




William Oliveri 10-02-2003 02:09 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Well, I believe my jeep was running really rich before I put the FI on. A
couple of reasons I believe this. First, I couldn't get rid of the stinky
smell even after I put a new O2 sensor in. Then, when I removed the exhaust
manifold to put a new gasket on I noticed the previous owner or his mechanic
didn't use all the bolts to tighten the manifold down. I know this because
the manifold would not line up to the bolt holes on the head. I had to
grind out the end bolt holes amoung others to get it to fit properly. So I
suspect it wasn't on there very well and so the O2 sensor couldn't
compensate properly.

Now it's on there correctly, nice and snug but I'm afraid it has accumulated
bunches of carbon.

Previously I mentioned I wasn't hearing any pinging from the engine since I
put the MPI kit on. That has changed. Before I didn't have the distributor
seated correctly because I didn't have an indexing pin. I since got one and
seated it correctly and although it's running much better I'm now getting
ping. I up'd the Octane to no avail so I'm going to JeepsRUs who told me
they can advance the timing to get rid of the ping.

I was thinking that accumulated carbon may also be a cause of it pinging.
I'm going down there today to see what can be done.

thanks,

bill


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7C66BA.84633EC7@cox.net...
> Just keep using a major gasoline and your chambers and spark plugs
> will never carbon foul, and your injectors will stay clean.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> > would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> > filter hooks onto?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > bill




Lon Stowell 10-02-2003 03:11 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Approximately 10/2/03 10:09, William Oliveri uttered for posterity:
> I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> filter hooks onto?


For lack of a better description, at the throttle body. Aka
the thingie that has a movable plate in it that looks like
what would have been a throttle plate in an older car.

A squirt gun or spray bottle works ok, some folks put a bit
of alcohol in the water, but nowhere near enough to actually
burn.


Lon Stowell 10-02-2003 03:11 PM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Approximately 10/2/03 10:09, William Oliveri uttered for posterity:
> I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> filter hooks onto?


For lack of a better description, at the throttle body. Aka
the thingie that has a movable plate in it that looks like
what would have been a throttle plate in an older car.

A squirt gun or spray bottle works ok, some folks put a bit
of alcohol in the water, but nowhere near enough to actually
burn.


Paul Brogren 10-03-2003 12:19 AM

Re: Clean Carbon from FI engine
 
Could you be too far in advance. I've heard ping when my motor is too far
advanced.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:LL_eb.662658$Ho3.137482@sccrnsc03...
> Approximately 10/2/03 10:09, William Oliveri uttered for posterity:
> > I've been seeing posts on cleaning carbon from carborated engines. How
> > would I do the same thing on a MPI engine? Pour water in where the air
> > filter hooks onto?

>
> For lack of a better description, at the throttle body. Aka
> the thingie that has a movable plate in it that looks like
> what would have been a throttle plate in an older car.
>
> A squirt gun or spray bottle works ok, some folks put a bit
> of alcohol in the water, but nowhere near enough to actually
> burn.
>





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