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CJ7 wide or narrow?
Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, or
are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 narrow track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the wrecker, it is probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub upgrade and cromoly axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and just get one new inner axle? On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but it is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. Greg |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Ouch, busted frames are a pain...
Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is also shorter if I remember right. I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Greg wrote: > Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, or > are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 narrow > track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the wrecker, it is > probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub upgrade and cromoly > axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and just get one new inner > axle? > On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front > passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering > shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this > afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but it > is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. > Greg > > |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Ouch, busted frames are a pain...
Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is also shorter if I remember right. I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Greg wrote: > Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, or > are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 narrow > track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the wrecker, it is > probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub upgrade and cromoly > axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and just get one new inner > axle? > On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front > passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering > shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this > afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but it > is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. > Greg > > |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Ouch, busted frames are a pain...
Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is also shorter if I remember right. I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Greg wrote: > Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, or > are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 narrow > track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the wrecker, it is > probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub upgrade and cromoly > axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and just get one new inner > axle? > On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front > passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering > shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this > afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but it > is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. > Greg > > |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Ouch, busted frames are a pain...
Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is also shorter if I remember right. I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Greg wrote: > Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, or > are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 narrow > track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the wrecker, it is > probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub upgrade and cromoly > axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and just get one new inner > axle? > On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front > passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering > shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this > afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but it > is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. > Greg > > |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Thanks Mike, I looked at axles online, outters are the same, but both
inners are different, as for frame, I hope it's the same, I measured front end, its the same width, will measure back to make sure. Frame broke right where rear spring hanger attatches in front, came off with 8" of frame attatched, real pain place to get welded with body mount, spring hanger, brake cable mount, fuel line, there is more attached to that 8" of frame then anywhere else on jeep. The new frame I can't realy find anything wrong with it, looks like it was factory undercoated, I wacked at it in a few places and undercoat came off showing what looks like original paint. At $350.00 I figured I couldn't go wrong with the one good front fender I can always use, the steering gear box I can use, good hardtop just missing back hatch. I'll go measure back of frame and between springs to make sure it's the same as narrow track, let you know. Vin shows it's an 86. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:46a758ae$0$16075$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > Ouch, busted frames are a pain... > > Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? > > OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, > (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what > I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is > also shorter if I remember right. > > I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this > afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Greg wrote: >> Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, >> or are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 >> narrow track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the >> wrecker, it is probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub >> upgrade and cromoly axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and >> just get one new inner axle? >> On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front >> passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering >> shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this >> afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but >> it is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. >> Greg |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Thanks Mike, I looked at axles online, outters are the same, but both
inners are different, as for frame, I hope it's the same, I measured front end, its the same width, will measure back to make sure. Frame broke right where rear spring hanger attatches in front, came off with 8" of frame attatched, real pain place to get welded with body mount, spring hanger, brake cable mount, fuel line, there is more attached to that 8" of frame then anywhere else on jeep. The new frame I can't realy find anything wrong with it, looks like it was factory undercoated, I wacked at it in a few places and undercoat came off showing what looks like original paint. At $350.00 I figured I couldn't go wrong with the one good front fender I can always use, the steering gear box I can use, good hardtop just missing back hatch. I'll go measure back of frame and between springs to make sure it's the same as narrow track, let you know. Vin shows it's an 86. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:46a758ae$0$16075$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > Ouch, busted frames are a pain... > > Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? > > OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, > (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what > I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is > also shorter if I remember right. > > I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this > afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Greg wrote: >> Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, >> or are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 >> narrow track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the >> wrecker, it is probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub >> upgrade and cromoly axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and >> just get one new inner axle? >> On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front >> passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering >> shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this >> afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but >> it is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. >> Greg |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Thanks Mike, I looked at axles online, outters are the same, but both
inners are different, as for frame, I hope it's the same, I measured front end, its the same width, will measure back to make sure. Frame broke right where rear spring hanger attatches in front, came off with 8" of frame attatched, real pain place to get welded with body mount, spring hanger, brake cable mount, fuel line, there is more attached to that 8" of frame then anywhere else on jeep. The new frame I can't realy find anything wrong with it, looks like it was factory undercoated, I wacked at it in a few places and undercoat came off showing what looks like original paint. At $350.00 I figured I couldn't go wrong with the one good front fender I can always use, the steering gear box I can use, good hardtop just missing back hatch. I'll go measure back of frame and between springs to make sure it's the same as narrow track, let you know. Vin shows it's an 86. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:46a758ae$0$16075$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > Ouch, busted frames are a pain... > > Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? > > OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, > (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what > I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is > also shorter if I remember right. > > I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this > afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Greg wrote: >> Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, >> or are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 >> narrow track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the >> wrecker, it is probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub >> upgrade and cromoly axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and >> just get one new inner axle? >> On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front >> passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering >> shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this >> afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but >> it is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. >> Greg |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
Thanks Mike, I looked at axles online, outters are the same, but both
inners are different, as for frame, I hope it's the same, I measured front end, its the same width, will measure back to make sure. Frame broke right where rear spring hanger attatches in front, came off with 8" of frame attatched, real pain place to get welded with body mount, spring hanger, brake cable mount, fuel line, there is more attached to that 8" of frame then anywhere else on jeep. The new frame I can't realy find anything wrong with it, looks like it was factory undercoated, I wacked at it in a few places and undercoat came off showing what looks like original paint. At $350.00 I figured I couldn't go wrong with the one good front fender I can always use, the steering gear box I can use, good hardtop just missing back hatch. I'll go measure back of frame and between springs to make sure it's the same as narrow track, let you know. Vin shows it's an 86. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:46a758ae$0$16075$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > Ouch, busted frames are a pain... > > Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? > > OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, > (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what > I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is > also shorter if I remember right. > > I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this > afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Greg wrote: >> Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, >> or are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 >> narrow track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the >> wrecker, it is probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub >> upgrade and cromoly axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and >> just get one new inner axle? >> On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front >> passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering >> shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this >> afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but >> it is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. >> Greg |
Re: CJ7 wide or narrow?
86? Maybe you are lucky and it has the Dana 44 rear like mine?
Maybe the only difference is the fender flares then? I also snapped my frame in the 'exact' spot as yours! The mount had to come off for the repair. I just had the outer rail beefed op and left the inner box shattered. The inner box causes all the troubles anyway, it was a 'failed' 'add on' to slow down the flex so they couldn't tip as easy, thank Ralph Nader for that. This just stressed out the frame causing them to fatigue snap and a place to hold hundreds of pounds of mud to rot things out. Took two days to hose that sucker out when I rebuilt her. I have a frame swap needed in the near future too, just need income for that... Mike Greg wrote: > Thanks Mike, I looked at axles online, outters are the same, but both > inners are different, as for frame, I hope it's the same, I measured front > end, its the same width, will measure back to make sure. Frame broke right > where rear spring hanger attatches in front, came off with 8" of frame > attatched, real pain place to get welded with body mount, spring hanger, > brake cable mount, fuel line, there is more attached to that 8" of frame > then anywhere else on jeep. The new frame I can't realy find anything wrong > with it, looks like it was factory undercoated, I wacked at it in a few > places and undercoat came off showing what looks like original paint. At > $350.00 I figured I couldn't go wrong with the one good front fender I can > always use, the steering gear box I can use, good hardtop just missing back > hatch. I'll go measure back of frame and between springs to make sure it's > the same as narrow track, let you know. Vin shows it's an 86. > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:46a758ae$0$16075$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... >> Ouch, busted frames are a pain... >> >> Are the wide and narrow track Jeep frames the same? >> >> OK, I am not 100% on this, but when I needed a new axle short end, >> (u-joint out) the shop gave me two narrow track ones to rip apart for what >> I needed. For sure the short side is shorter and 99% the long side is >> also shorter if I remember right. >> >> I have a bead on a steering shaft locally that I am going to go grab this >> afternoon, but thanks for thinking of me. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> Greg wrote: >>> Is the axle on a dana 30, on a wide track CJ, only longer on one side, >>> or are both sides longer? Reason I'm asking is my frame broke on my 81 >>> narrow track, I just bought a CJ with a with a good frame from the >>> wrecker, it is probably wide track. I've replaced my dana 30 with hub >>> upgrade and cromoly axles, so was just wondering if I could swap over and >>> just get one new inner axle? >>> On another note anyone want to buy a good back seat, perfect front >>> passenger fender, steering wheel, Mike I think you needed the steering >>> shaft, tranny is there, don't know what it is yet, being delivered this >>> afternoon, anyone????????. May be misc. other parts that can go too, but >>> it is pretty picked over, all I want is the frame. >>> Greg > > |
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