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Re: CJ volt gauge
Come to think about it, his newer '83 CJ probably came with an alternator
from the factory, not a generator as older CJs did... so it likely would have come with a voltmeter and not an ammeter. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:ayCrb.23791$PD2.2573@fed1read05... > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:BhCrb.4522$6Q2.3796@fe1.columbus.rr.com... > > I only know of one guage that measures electricity in anyway on a CJ and > > that's the voltage meter. > > I rewired a friend's '73 CJ from scratch including a total rewire of his > instrument cluster and it had an ammeter, not a voltmeter. We ended up > swapping the ammeter for a voltmeter since the generator had been taken out > and an alternator replaced it. It really depends on if the CJ originally > came with a generator which comes with an ammeter and not a voltmeter, or a > later CJ that came with an alternator which substituted the ammeter for a > voltmeter. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > Sits next to the oil pressure gauge. But it > > usually sits close to 16 all the time. Can't figure where else that yellow > > wire goes, according to the scematic drawing, it's yellow. Speaking of the > > oil pressure guage, it acts funny too. Sits at 20 psi for the most part, > > when the revs get low, it drops all of a sudden from 20 to zero,..I mean > > buried like it's getting no juice at all. A tap of the gas and it jumps > > abruptly back to 20. Funny too,...only on the highway does the valves > > clatter. Wonder if my pump is bad. > > Thanks Jerry! > > Allen > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:FPBrb.23789$PD2.13182@fed1read05... > > > You sure you're not thinking of the ammeter? That particular meter > > normally > > > has a pretty heavy wire going to it but the volt meter can get by with a > > > skinny wire. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > news:fIBrb.6885$zc1.5087@fe3.columbus.rr.com... > > > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > > > > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going > > to > > > > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to > > move > > > > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have > > too > > > > much juice going to the thing. > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: CJ volt gauge
Come to think about it, his newer '83 CJ probably came with an alternator
from the factory, not a generator as older CJs did... so it likely would have come with a voltmeter and not an ammeter. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:ayCrb.23791$PD2.2573@fed1read05... > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:BhCrb.4522$6Q2.3796@fe1.columbus.rr.com... > > I only know of one guage that measures electricity in anyway on a CJ and > > that's the voltage meter. > > I rewired a friend's '73 CJ from scratch including a total rewire of his > instrument cluster and it had an ammeter, not a voltmeter. We ended up > swapping the ammeter for a voltmeter since the generator had been taken out > and an alternator replaced it. It really depends on if the CJ originally > came with a generator which comes with an ammeter and not a voltmeter, or a > later CJ that came with an alternator which substituted the ammeter for a > voltmeter. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > Sits next to the oil pressure gauge. But it > > usually sits close to 16 all the time. Can't figure where else that yellow > > wire goes, according to the scematic drawing, it's yellow. Speaking of the > > oil pressure guage, it acts funny too. Sits at 20 psi for the most part, > > when the revs get low, it drops all of a sudden from 20 to zero,..I mean > > buried like it's getting no juice at all. A tap of the gas and it jumps > > abruptly back to 20. Funny too,...only on the highway does the valves > > clatter. Wonder if my pump is bad. > > Thanks Jerry! > > Allen > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:FPBrb.23789$PD2.13182@fed1read05... > > > You sure you're not thinking of the ammeter? That particular meter > > normally > > > has a pretty heavy wire going to it but the volt meter can get by with a > > > skinny wire. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > news:fIBrb.6885$zc1.5087@fe3.columbus.rr.com... > > > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > > > > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going > > to > > > > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to > > move > > > > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have > > too > > > > much juice going to the thing. > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: CJ volt gauge
Come to think about it, his newer '83 CJ probably came with an alternator
from the factory, not a generator as older CJs did... so it likely would have come with a voltmeter and not an ammeter. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:ayCrb.23791$PD2.2573@fed1read05... > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:BhCrb.4522$6Q2.3796@fe1.columbus.rr.com... > > I only know of one guage that measures electricity in anyway on a CJ and > > that's the voltage meter. > > I rewired a friend's '73 CJ from scratch including a total rewire of his > instrument cluster and it had an ammeter, not a voltmeter. We ended up > swapping the ammeter for a voltmeter since the generator had been taken out > and an alternator replaced it. It really depends on if the CJ originally > came with a generator which comes with an ammeter and not a voltmeter, or a > later CJ that came with an alternator which substituted the ammeter for a > voltmeter. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > Sits next to the oil pressure gauge. But it > > usually sits close to 16 all the time. Can't figure where else that yellow > > wire goes, according to the scematic drawing, it's yellow. Speaking of the > > oil pressure guage, it acts funny too. Sits at 20 psi for the most part, > > when the revs get low, it drops all of a sudden from 20 to zero,..I mean > > buried like it's getting no juice at all. A tap of the gas and it jumps > > abruptly back to 20. Funny too,...only on the highway does the valves > > clatter. Wonder if my pump is bad. > > Thanks Jerry! > > Allen > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:FPBrb.23789$PD2.13182@fed1read05... > > > You sure you're not thinking of the ammeter? That particular meter > > normally > > > has a pretty heavy wire going to it but the volt meter can get by with a > > > skinny wire. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > news:fIBrb.6885$zc1.5087@fe3.columbus.rr.com... > > > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > > > > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going > > to > > > > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to > > move > > > > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have > > too > > > > much juice going to the thing. > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: CJ volt gauge
Hi Allen,
I think it may have been converted to an ampere gauge, and that those large wires are hooked between your battery and everything else, like a Real Jeep, so that it signals the charging of your alternator and the power used by your accessories and lights and looks like: http://www.stewartwarner.com/Images/82200.gif with a big jumper between it's connection posts. Because the your '83 should have been wired like: http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm with a small wires hooked to voltage gauge, just enough to monitor the voltage between ignition and ground using a gauge looks like this: http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cj8/8126659GA.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going to > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to move > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have too > much juice going to the thing. > Allen |
Re: CJ volt gauge
Hi Allen,
I think it may have been converted to an ampere gauge, and that those large wires are hooked between your battery and everything else, like a Real Jeep, so that it signals the charging of your alternator and the power used by your accessories and lights and looks like: http://www.stewartwarner.com/Images/82200.gif with a big jumper between it's connection posts. Because the your '83 should have been wired like: http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm with a small wires hooked to voltage gauge, just enough to monitor the voltage between ignition and ground using a gauge looks like this: http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cj8/8126659GA.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going to > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to move > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have too > much juice going to the thing. > Allen |
Re: CJ volt gauge
Hi Allen,
I think it may have been converted to an ampere gauge, and that those large wires are hooked between your battery and everything else, like a Real Jeep, so that it signals the charging of your alternator and the power used by your accessories and lights and looks like: http://www.stewartwarner.com/Images/82200.gif with a big jumper between it's connection posts. Because the your '83 should have been wired like: http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm with a small wires hooked to voltage gauge, just enough to monitor the voltage between ignition and ground using a gauge looks like this: http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cj8/8126659GA.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going to > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to move > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have too > much juice going to the thing. > Allen |
Re: CJ volt gauge
You need to check with a multimeter.
With it running, put the meter on the battery to see what's there and on the big red wire and ground on the alternator and see what it is putting out. A battery with a cell going dead will spike the alternator voltage high. An alternator with a blown diode on the regulator also can spike the voltage high. Usually by one volt or so. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going to > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to move > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have too > much juice going to the thing. > Allen |
Re: CJ volt gauge
You need to check with a multimeter.
With it running, put the meter on the battery to see what's there and on the big red wire and ground on the alternator and see what it is putting out. A battery with a cell going dead will spike the alternator voltage high. An alternator with a blown diode on the regulator also can spike the voltage high. Usually by one volt or so. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going to > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to move > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have too > much juice going to the thing. > Allen |
Re: CJ volt gauge
You need to check with a multimeter.
With it running, put the meter on the battery to see what's there and on the big red wire and ground on the alternator and see what it is putting out. A battery with a cell going dead will spike the alternator voltage high. An alternator with a blown diode on the regulator also can spike the voltage high. Usually by one volt or so. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going to > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to move > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have too > much juice going to the thing. > Allen |
Re: CJ volt gauge
Yes, that fat Yel wire goes into the back of the voltmeter. My CJ also
reports that it is cranking out juice in the 16v range. <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:BhCrb.4522$6Q2.3796@fe1.columbus.rr.com... > I only know of one guage that measures electricity in anyway on a CJ and > that's the voltage meter. Sits next to the oil pressure gauge. But it > usually sits close to 16 all the time. Can't figure where else that yellow > wire goes, according to the scematic drawing, it's yellow. Speaking of the > oil pressure guage, it acts funny too. Sits at 20 psi for the most part, > when the revs get low, it drops all of a sudden from 20 to zero,..I mean > buried like it's getting no juice at all. A tap of the gas and it jumps > abruptly back to 20. Funny too,...only on the highway does the valves > clatter. Wonder if my pump is bad. > Thanks Jerry! > Allen > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:FPBrb.23789$PD2.13182@fed1read05... > > You sure you're not thinking of the ammeter? That particular meter > normally > > has a pretty heavy wire going to it but the volt meter can get by with a > > skinny wire. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:fIBrb.6885$zc1.5087@fe3.columbus.rr.com... > > > I've noticed that in my manual for my 83 CJ, the volt gauge has a huge > > > yellow wire,..which I have. It's larger than any other hot wires going > to > > > any gauges. But my volt gauge is practically pegged. It does tend to > move > > > with the RPMs. Can't figure out if it's my guage or not, or do I have > too > > > much juice going to the thing. > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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