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MStevens003 03-23-2007 11:59 AM

CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do this.



MStevens003 03-23-2007 12:09 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5

"MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
>gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
>remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
>but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
>have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
>I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do
>this.
>
>




MStevens003 03-23-2007 12:09 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5

"MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
>gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
>remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
>but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
>have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
>I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do
>this.
>
>




MStevens003 03-23-2007 12:09 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5

"MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
>gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
>remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
>but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
>have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
>I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do
>this.
>
>




Mike Romain 03-23-2007 12:42 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
LOL!

Manual or power...

I don't think it matters though. The adjustment plug is on the end the
steering column goes in. You loosen off the large lock nut, then turn
the plug via the slots until it bottoms out, then back it off 1/8" in
rotation and snug up the lock nut.

There is another adjustment up top with a nut and a screw, but this is
the gear preload, not an adjustment per say. If you tighten this like
some folks think it should, it will make the steering tighter, just
before it cooks the steering box.... To set this up, the box has to be
in a vise, it can't be done on the vehicle. Well.. it 'can', but the
pinion movement is in inch lb so it is pretty much impossible to do
hooked up.

I have the PDF file on doing the Saganaw power steering box if you would
like it.

For slop, also check the u-joints on the steering shaft just under the
brake Master.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
> I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5
>
> "MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
>> gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
>> remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
>> but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
>> have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
>> I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do
>> this.
>>
>>

>
>


Mike Romain 03-23-2007 12:42 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
LOL!

Manual or power...

I don't think it matters though. The adjustment plug is on the end the
steering column goes in. You loosen off the large lock nut, then turn
the plug via the slots until it bottoms out, then back it off 1/8" in
rotation and snug up the lock nut.

There is another adjustment up top with a nut and a screw, but this is
the gear preload, not an adjustment per say. If you tighten this like
some folks think it should, it will make the steering tighter, just
before it cooks the steering box.... To set this up, the box has to be
in a vise, it can't be done on the vehicle. Well.. it 'can', but the
pinion movement is in inch lb so it is pretty much impossible to do
hooked up.

I have the PDF file on doing the Saganaw power steering box if you would
like it.

For slop, also check the u-joints on the steering shaft just under the
brake Master.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
> I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5
>
> "MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
>> gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
>> remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
>> but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
>> have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
>> I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do
>> this.
>>
>>

>
>


Mike Romain 03-23-2007 12:42 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
LOL!

Manual or power...

I don't think it matters though. The adjustment plug is on the end the
steering column goes in. You loosen off the large lock nut, then turn
the plug via the slots until it bottoms out, then back it off 1/8" in
rotation and snug up the lock nut.

There is another adjustment up top with a nut and a screw, but this is
the gear preload, not an adjustment per say. If you tighten this like
some folks think it should, it will make the steering tighter, just
before it cooks the steering box.... To set this up, the box has to be
in a vise, it can't be done on the vehicle. Well.. it 'can', but the
pinion movement is in inch lb so it is pretty much impossible to do
hooked up.

I have the PDF file on doing the Saganaw power steering box if you would
like it.

For slop, also check the u-joints on the steering shaft just under the
brake Master.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
> I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5
>
> "MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the steering
>> gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and adjusting it to
>> remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember doing this before
>> but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess another Jeeper must
>> have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the steering wheel that I hope
>> I can adjust out without having to replace anything so I ask how to do
>> this.
>>
>>

>
>


MStevens003 03-25-2007 08:13 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
Hi Mike:

I have replaced all the U joints; the slop is in the steering gear. I'm real
happy you replied because I had done exactly what you said not to do and
cranked dowm the preload!

No power steering. Did you notice there is nothing in Hanes about this? I'll
look for that adjustment plug. Also I think my box has leaked out all it's
oil and I don't see a filler hole. Maybe you use the preload hole? And
having messed with the preload can I reset it? I'm not going to drop the
gear from the frame right now.

Is the great white north warming up yet? If you believe it its 5:11 pm here
and I'm typing this in my swim shorts and the thermometer is saying 81 deg
F.

Michael




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46040398$0$5684$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> Manual or power...
>
> I don't think it matters though. The adjustment plug is on the end the
> steering column goes in. You loosen off the large lock nut, then turn the
> plug via the slots until it bottoms out, then back it off 1/8" in rotation
> and snug up the lock nut.
>
> There is another adjustment up top with a nut and a screw, but this is the
> gear preload, not an adjustment per say. If you tighten this like some
> folks think it should, it will make the steering tighter, just before it
> cooks the steering box.... To set this up, the box has to be in a vise,
> it can't be done on the vehicle. Well.. it 'can', but the pinion movement
> is in inch lb so it is pretty much impossible to do hooked up.
>
> I have the PDF file on doing the Saganaw power steering box if you would
> like it.
>
> For slop, also check the u-joints on the steering shaft just under the
> brake Master.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> MStevens003 wrote:
>> I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5
>>
>> "MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the
>>> steering gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and
>>> adjusting it to remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember
>>> doing this before but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess
>>> another Jeeper must have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the
>>> steering wheel that I hope I can adjust out without having to replace
>>> anything so I ask how to do this.
>>>
>>>

>>



MStevens003 03-25-2007 08:13 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
Hi Mike:

I have replaced all the U joints; the slop is in the steering gear. I'm real
happy you replied because I had done exactly what you said not to do and
cranked dowm the preload!

No power steering. Did you notice there is nothing in Hanes about this? I'll
look for that adjustment plug. Also I think my box has leaked out all it's
oil and I don't see a filler hole. Maybe you use the preload hole? And
having messed with the preload can I reset it? I'm not going to drop the
gear from the frame right now.

Is the great white north warming up yet? If you believe it its 5:11 pm here
and I'm typing this in my swim shorts and the thermometer is saying 81 deg
F.

Michael




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46040398$0$5684$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> Manual or power...
>
> I don't think it matters though. The adjustment plug is on the end the
> steering column goes in. You loosen off the large lock nut, then turn the
> plug via the slots until it bottoms out, then back it off 1/8" in rotation
> and snug up the lock nut.
>
> There is another adjustment up top with a nut and a screw, but this is the
> gear preload, not an adjustment per say. If you tighten this like some
> folks think it should, it will make the steering tighter, just before it
> cooks the steering box.... To set this up, the box has to be in a vise,
> it can't be done on the vehicle. Well.. it 'can', but the pinion movement
> is in inch lb so it is pretty much impossible to do hooked up.
>
> I have the PDF file on doing the Saganaw power steering box if you would
> like it.
>
> For slop, also check the u-joints on the steering shaft just under the
> brake Master.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> MStevens003 wrote:
>> I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5
>>
>> "MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the
>>> steering gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and
>>> adjusting it to remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember
>>> doing this before but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess
>>> another Jeeper must have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the
>>> steering wheel that I hope I can adjust out without having to replace
>>> anything so I ask how to do this.
>>>
>>>

>>



MStevens003 03-25-2007 08:13 PM

Re: CJ Steering Gear Adjustment to Remove Steering Wheel Free Play
 
Hi Mike:

I have replaced all the U joints; the slop is in the steering gear. I'm real
happy you replied because I had done exactly what you said not to do and
cranked dowm the preload!

No power steering. Did you notice there is nothing in Hanes about this? I'll
look for that adjustment plug. Also I think my box has leaked out all it's
oil and I don't see a filler hole. Maybe you use the preload hole? And
having messed with the preload can I reset it? I'm not going to drop the
gear from the frame right now.

Is the great white north warming up yet? If you believe it its 5:11 pm here
and I'm typing this in my swim shorts and the thermometer is saying 81 deg
F.

Michael




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46040398$0$5684$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> Manual or power...
>
> I don't think it matters though. The adjustment plug is on the end the
> steering column goes in. You loosen off the large lock nut, then turn the
> plug via the slots until it bottoms out, then back it off 1/8" in rotation
> and snug up the lock nut.
>
> There is another adjustment up top with a nut and a screw, but this is the
> gear preload, not an adjustment per say. If you tighten this like some
> folks think it should, it will make the steering tighter, just before it
> cooks the steering box.... To set this up, the box has to be in a vise,
> it can't be done on the vehicle. Well.. it 'can', but the pinion movement
> is in inch lb so it is pretty much impossible to do hooked up.
>
> I have the PDF file on doing the Saganaw power steering box if you would
> like it.
>
> For slop, also check the u-joints on the steering shaft just under the
> brake Master.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> MStevens003 wrote:
>> I forgot to say my Jeep is a 1981 CJ5
>>
>> "MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4603f956$0$17186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> I have the Haynes manual and see where it describes replacing the
>>> steering gear but I find no instructions for filling it with oil and
>>> adjusting it to remove free play from the steering wheel. I can remember
>>> doing this before but I can not remember how I knew what to do - I guess
>>> another Jeeper must have told me. Anyway I have too much play in the
>>> steering wheel that I hope I can adjust out without having to replace
>>> anything so I ask how to do this.
>>>
>>>

>>




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