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Danny Bains 02-27-2004 11:30 PM

CJ oil pan removal
 
I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking in
the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but I
can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
Thanks guys.


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Fennidh 02-27-2004 11:36 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Wonder bar!!! and rubber mallet. I have a 1" wide, 7" long
version of that particular prybar, it works great in that
spot. Might try an old putty knife and the mallet.

I never tried to get the pan off without removing the mount.
Good Luck!


"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
| I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan
was also leaking in
| the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber
gasker sticking out
| of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the
bolts out, but I
| can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've
tried a rubber
| hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I
managed to get
| the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without
removing the
| motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing
the motor mount?
| Thanks guys.
|
|
| --
| Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
| What's Microsoft up to:
http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
|
|



Fennidh 02-27-2004 11:36 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Wonder bar!!! and rubber mallet. I have a 1" wide, 7" long
version of that particular prybar, it works great in that
spot. Might try an old putty knife and the mallet.

I never tried to get the pan off without removing the mount.
Good Luck!


"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
| I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan
was also leaking in
| the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber
gasker sticking out
| of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the
bolts out, but I
| can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've
tried a rubber
| hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I
managed to get
| the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without
removing the
| motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing
the motor mount?
| Thanks guys.
|
|
| --
| Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
| What's Microsoft up to:
http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
|
|



Fennidh 02-27-2004 11:36 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Wonder bar!!! and rubber mallet. I have a 1" wide, 7" long
version of that particular prybar, it works great in that
spot. Might try an old putty knife and the mallet.

I never tried to get the pan off without removing the mount.
Good Luck!


"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
| I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan
was also leaking in
| the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber
gasker sticking out
| of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the
bolts out, but I
| can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've
tried a rubber
| hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I
managed to get
| the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without
removing the
| motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing
the motor mount?
| Thanks guys.
|
|
| --
| Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
| What's Microsoft up to:
http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
|
|



William Oliveri 02-27-2004 11:52 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Wow, I'm at the exact place you are and I convinced I'm going to have to
remove the mount to get the oil pan off.

I took a screw driver from the front and pryed down and the oil pan released
from the motor fine.

In the back, where it butts up against the tranny there are some tiny metal
tabs that stick out from the tranny case that will support the oil pan and
get in your way. I'm not sure the main purpose of those are unless it helps
hold the pan up when you are trying to re-install it. I bent those in to
try to slide it by but that didn't work. Gotta remove the mount I guess.

Bill




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




William Oliveri 02-27-2004 11:52 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Wow, I'm at the exact place you are and I convinced I'm going to have to
remove the mount to get the oil pan off.

I took a screw driver from the front and pryed down and the oil pan released
from the motor fine.

In the back, where it butts up against the tranny there are some tiny metal
tabs that stick out from the tranny case that will support the oil pan and
get in your way. I'm not sure the main purpose of those are unless it helps
hold the pan up when you are trying to re-install it. I bent those in to
try to slide it by but that didn't work. Gotta remove the mount I guess.

Bill




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




William Oliveri 02-27-2004 11:52 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Wow, I'm at the exact place you are and I convinced I'm going to have to
remove the mount to get the oil pan off.

I took a screw driver from the front and pryed down and the oil pan released
from the motor fine.

In the back, where it butts up against the tranny there are some tiny metal
tabs that stick out from the tranny case that will support the oil pan and
get in your way. I'm not sure the main purpose of those are unless it helps
hold the pan up when you are trying to re-install it. I bent those in to
try to slide it by but that didn't work. Gotta remove the mount I guess.

Bill




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2004 11:57 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Hi Danny,
I use a two by four and lay it on an area I think I can hit it with
everything I've got without hurting myself. It'll pop off surprisingly
easy. Prying it just bends the lip up. Remove the mount:
http://www.neow.org/rms1.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny Bains wrote:
>
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2004 11:57 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Hi Danny,
I use a two by four and lay it on an area I think I can hit it with
everything I've got without hurting myself. It'll pop off surprisingly
easy. Prying it just bends the lip up. Remove the mount:
http://www.neow.org/rms1.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny Bains wrote:
>
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2004 11:57 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Hi Danny,
I use a two by four and lay it on an area I think I can hit it with
everything I've got without hurting myself. It'll pop off surprisingly
easy. Prying it just bends the lip up. Remove the mount:
http://www.neow.org/rms1.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny Bains wrote:
>
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html


Jerry McG 02-28-2004 02:01 AM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Be certain all the bolts are out. I'd also suggest you pull the right side
mount (support the trans with a jackstand first.)

FWIW, rather than using the old multi-piece pan gasket, replace it with a
new, one-piece type gasket. Much easier to install & won't leak like the old
ones.

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




Jerry McG 02-28-2004 02:01 AM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Be certain all the bolts are out. I'd also suggest you pull the right side
mount (support the trans with a jackstand first.)

FWIW, rather than using the old multi-piece pan gasket, replace it with a
new, one-piece type gasket. Much easier to install & won't leak like the old
ones.

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




Jerry McG 02-28-2004 02:01 AM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Be certain all the bolts are out. I'd also suggest you pull the right side
mount (support the trans with a jackstand first.)

FWIW, rather than using the old multi-piece pan gasket, replace it with a
new, one-piece type gasket. Much easier to install & won't leak like the old
ones.

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




CRWLR 02-28-2004 06:45 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Are you SURE you got all of the bolts out?

If you are sure, then you can use a screwdriver to GENTLY pry the pan away
from the block.




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




CRWLR 02-28-2004 06:45 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Are you SURE you got all of the bolts out?

If you are sure, then you can use a screwdriver to GENTLY pry the pan away
from the block.




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




CRWLR 02-28-2004 06:45 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Are you SURE you got all of the bolts out?

If you are sure, then you can use a screwdriver to GENTLY pry the pan away
from the block.




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

in
> the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

I
> can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




Will Honea 02-28-2004 11:54 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Tell that to my 88 MJ! The first time I pulled the pan it was a close
battle which I finally won - that cork gasket had been cemented with
something that must have approximated JB Weld! I finally got it off
using a sharpened putty knife that was really thin and flexible but
that was the hardest gasket I ever tried to pull - took several times
as long to clean it off as the rest of the entire job. Turned a 2
hour exercise into an all day battle.

But I do agree with the advice. Oh, the hours I've wasted trying to
pull off a part with that one hidden bolt left...

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:45:51 UTC "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Are you SURE you got all of the bolts out?
>
> If you are sure, then you can use a screwdriver to GENTLY pry the pan away
> from the block.
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

> in
> > the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> > of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

> I
> > can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> > hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> > the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> > motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> > What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
> >
> >

>
>



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 02-28-2004 11:54 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Tell that to my 88 MJ! The first time I pulled the pan it was a close
battle which I finally won - that cork gasket had been cemented with
something that must have approximated JB Weld! I finally got it off
using a sharpened putty knife that was really thin and flexible but
that was the hardest gasket I ever tried to pull - took several times
as long to clean it off as the rest of the entire job. Turned a 2
hour exercise into an all day battle.

But I do agree with the advice. Oh, the hours I've wasted trying to
pull off a part with that one hidden bolt left...

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:45:51 UTC "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Are you SURE you got all of the bolts out?
>
> If you are sure, then you can use a screwdriver to GENTLY pry the pan away
> from the block.
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

> in
> > the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> > of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

> I
> > can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> > hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> > the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> > motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> > What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
> >
> >

>
>



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 02-28-2004 11:54 PM

Re: CJ oil pan removal
 
Tell that to my 88 MJ! The first time I pulled the pan it was a close
battle which I finally won - that cork gasket had been cemented with
something that must have approximated JB Weld! I finally got it off
using a sharpened putty knife that was really thin and flexible but
that was the hardest gasket I ever tried to pull - took several times
as long to clean it off as the rest of the entire job. Turned a 2
hour exercise into an all day battle.

But I do agree with the advice. Oh, the hours I've wasted trying to
pull off a part with that one hidden bolt left...

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:45:51 UTC "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Are you SURE you got all of the bolts out?
>
> If you are sure, then you can use a screwdriver to GENTLY pry the pan away
> from the block.
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> news:xrKdnafuqaHBi93dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > I'm trying to replace the rear main seal -- the oil pan was also leaking

> in
> > the front and rear and I could see part of the rubber gasker sticking out
> > of the front of the pan. Anyway, I managed to get all the bolts out, but

> I
> > can't get the pan to break loose from the engine. I've tried a rubber
> > hammer and a screw driver, so what is the trick? Also, I managed to get
> > the bolt out under the passenger side motor mount without removing the
> > motor mount. Will the oil pan come off without removing the motor mount?
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> > What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
> >
> >

>
>



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


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