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Rusted 04-26-2005 03:46 PM

cj frame repair
 
There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a CJ.
Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
ideas?




Clap Trap 04-26-2005 08:09 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
replace two (only have 4 in right now).

Rusted wrote:
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a CJ.
> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>
>


Clap Trap 04-26-2005 08:09 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
replace two (only have 4 in right now).

Rusted wrote:
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a CJ.
> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>
>


Clap Trap 04-26-2005 08:09 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
replace two (only have 4 in right now).

Rusted wrote:
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a CJ.
> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>
>


Clap Trap 04-26-2005 08:09 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
replace two (only have 4 in right now).

Rusted wrote:
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a CJ.
> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>
>


Michael White 04-26-2005 10:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rusted (noEmail@please.com) wrote on Tuesday 26 April 2005 02:46 pm:

> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?


Re-tap it to the next size up (is it 7/16"?). I did that to one of mine. I
was able to torque it with no problem. You'll probably have to take a
die-grinder to enlarge the hole in the skid plate, though.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Michael White 04-26-2005 10:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rusted (noEmail@please.com) wrote on Tuesday 26 April 2005 02:46 pm:

> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?


Re-tap it to the next size up (is it 7/16"?). I did that to one of mine. I
was able to torque it with no problem. You'll probably have to take a
die-grinder to enlarge the hole in the skid plate, though.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Michael White 04-26-2005 10:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rusted (noEmail@please.com) wrote on Tuesday 26 April 2005 02:46 pm:

> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?


Re-tap it to the next size up (is it 7/16"?). I did that to one of mine. I
was able to torque it with no problem. You'll probably have to take a
die-grinder to enlarge the hole in the skid plate, though.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Michael White 04-26-2005 10:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rusted (noEmail@please.com) wrote on Tuesday 26 April 2005 02:46 pm:

> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?


Re-tap it to the next size up (is it 7/16"?). I did that to one of mine. I
was able to torque it with no problem. You'll probably have to take a
die-grinder to enlarge the hole in the skid plate, though.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

popeyeball 04-26-2005 10:53 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
Steve
Clap Trap wrote:
> I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
> > There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame

of a CJ.
> > Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just

enough
> > thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just

twist.
> > What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I

drill
> > our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other

repair
> > ideas?
> >
> >
> >



popeyeball 04-26-2005 10:53 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
Steve
Clap Trap wrote:
> I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
> > There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame

of a CJ.
> > Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just

enough
> > thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just

twist.
> > What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I

drill
> > our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other

repair
> > ideas?
> >
> >
> >



popeyeball 04-26-2005 10:53 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
Steve
Clap Trap wrote:
> I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
> > There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame

of a CJ.
> > Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just

enough
> > thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just

twist.
> > What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I

drill
> > our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other

repair
> > ideas?
> >
> >
> >



popeyeball 04-26-2005 10:53 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
Steve
Clap Trap wrote:
> I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
> > There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame

of a CJ.
> > Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just

enough
> > thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just

twist.
> > What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I

drill
> > our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other

repair
> > ideas?
> >
> >
> >



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-26-2005 11:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
http://www.eaa.org.za/technical/rivnut.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

popeyeball wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-26-2005 11:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
http://www.eaa.org.za/technical/rivnut.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

popeyeball wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-26-2005 11:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
http://www.eaa.org.za/technical/rivnut.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

popeyeball wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-26-2005 11:06 PM

Re: cj frame repair
 
http://www.eaa.org.za/technical/rivnut.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

popeyeball wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 01:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rivnut is a brand name (kinda like kleenex) of a type of blind fastener.

http://www.bollhoff-rivnut.com/id10.htm

A friend at a local shop had some extras he let me have. Dunno where to
actually get them though. Maybe your local nut and bolt shop.

popeyeball wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve
> Clap Trap wrote:
>
>>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
>>replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>>


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 01:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rivnut is a brand name (kinda like kleenex) of a type of blind fastener.

http://www.bollhoff-rivnut.com/id10.htm

A friend at a local shop had some extras he let me have. Dunno where to
actually get them though. Maybe your local nut and bolt shop.

popeyeball wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve
> Clap Trap wrote:
>
>>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
>>replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>>


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 01:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rivnut is a brand name (kinda like kleenex) of a type of blind fastener.

http://www.bollhoff-rivnut.com/id10.htm

A friend at a local shop had some extras he let me have. Dunno where to
actually get them though. Maybe your local nut and bolt shop.

popeyeball wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve
> Clap Trap wrote:
>
>>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
>>replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>>


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 01:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Rivnut is a brand name (kinda like kleenex) of a type of blind fastener.

http://www.bollhoff-rivnut.com/id10.htm

A friend at a local shop had some extras he let me have. Dunno where to
actually get them though. Maybe your local nut and bolt shop.

popeyeball wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance but??? What's a Rivnut?
> Steve
> Clap Trap wrote:
>
>>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
>>replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>>


Rusted 04-27-2005 01:39 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?

Other feedback I have seen, and the order I think I will try them in:


1 - drill it to a larger size, re-tap it, insert bolt
2 - weld on a 2" wide piece of thick strapping. Then drill and tap that
where needed
3 - rivnuts (unless I can be sold on their strength)



"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:86587$426ed83b$18d60a3d$21997@KNOLOGY.NET...
>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
>> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
>> CJ.
>> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
>> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
>> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
>> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
>> ideas?
>>
>>
>>





Rusted 04-27-2005 01:39 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?

Other feedback I have seen, and the order I think I will try them in:


1 - drill it to a larger size, re-tap it, insert bolt
2 - weld on a 2" wide piece of thick strapping. Then drill and tap that
where needed
3 - rivnuts (unless I can be sold on their strength)



"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:86587$426ed83b$18d60a3d$21997@KNOLOGY.NET...
>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
>> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
>> CJ.
>> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
>> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
>> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
>> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
>> ideas?
>>
>>
>>





Rusted 04-27-2005 01:39 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?

Other feedback I have seen, and the order I think I will try them in:


1 - drill it to a larger size, re-tap it, insert bolt
2 - weld on a 2" wide piece of thick strapping. Then drill and tap that
where needed
3 - rivnuts (unless I can be sold on their strength)



"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:86587$426ed83b$18d60a3d$21997@KNOLOGY.NET...
>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
>> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
>> CJ.
>> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
>> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
>> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
>> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
>> ideas?
>>
>>
>>





Rusted 04-27-2005 01:39 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?

Other feedback I have seen, and the order I think I will try them in:


1 - drill it to a larger size, re-tap it, insert bolt
2 - weld on a 2" wide piece of thick strapping. Then drill and tap that
where needed
3 - rivnuts (unless I can be sold on their strength)



"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:86587$426ed83b$18d60a3d$21997@KNOLOGY.NET...
>I used Rivnuts on mine. They work fine. I actually still need to
> replace two (only have 4 in right now).
>
> Rusted wrote:
>> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
>> CJ.
>> Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
>> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
>> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
>> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
>> ideas?
>>
>>
>>





Clap Trap 04-27-2005 09:16 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
We used 'em all over space station. They are very strong. Torque
shouldn't be an issue. They are designed to handle the proper preload
of the bolt - assuming you use an install tool and get them in correctly.

Rusted wrote:
> Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
> better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 09:16 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
We used 'em all over space station. They are very strong. Torque
shouldn't be an issue. They are designed to handle the proper preload
of the bolt - assuming you use an install tool and get them in correctly.

Rusted wrote:
> Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
> better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 09:16 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
We used 'em all over space station. They are very strong. Torque
shouldn't be an issue. They are designed to handle the proper preload
of the bolt - assuming you use an install tool and get them in correctly.

Rusted wrote:
> Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
> better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?


Clap Trap 04-27-2005 09:16 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
We used 'em all over space station. They are very strong. Torque
shouldn't be an issue. They are designed to handle the proper preload
of the bolt - assuming you use an install tool and get them in correctly.

Rusted wrote:
> Are rivnuts strong enough to take that kind of abuse? They are defiantly
> better than what I have now, but what kind of torque can they take?


Greg 04-27-2005 10:12 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Mine were the same, 4 ok and 2 shot, I just took the next size up tap and
ran it through, then like sized bolt, took and chance on it not spinning the
nut off, guess I would of lost a tap in the frame if it did, but worked fine
for me.

"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>




Greg 04-27-2005 10:12 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Mine were the same, 4 ok and 2 shot, I just took the next size up tap and
ran it through, then like sized bolt, took and chance on it not spinning the
nut off, guess I would of lost a tap in the frame if it did, but worked fine
for me.

"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>




Greg 04-27-2005 10:12 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Mine were the same, 4 ok and 2 shot, I just took the next size up tap and
ran it through, then like sized bolt, took and chance on it not spinning the
nut off, guess I would of lost a tap in the frame if it did, but worked fine
for me.

"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>




Greg 04-27-2005 10:12 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Mine were the same, 4 ok and 2 shot, I just took the next size up tap and
ran it through, then like sized bolt, took and chance on it not spinning the
nut off, guess I would of lost a tap in the frame if it did, but worked fine
for me.

"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>




Rusted 05-06-2005 12:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Follow up-

I tapped it one size larger. the drill was easy since most of the threads
were gone already. Ran a tap through, and I was done with both of them in
10 minutes. Looks like there is still plenty of meat left on bolt that is
inside the frame, so I am good to go. Thanks for the idea.


"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>





Rusted 05-06-2005 12:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Follow up-

I tapped it one size larger. the drill was easy since most of the threads
were gone already. Ran a tap through, and I was done with both of them in
10 minutes. Looks like there is still plenty of meat left on bolt that is
inside the frame, so I am good to go. Thanks for the idea.


"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>





Rusted 05-06-2005 12:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Follow up-

I tapped it one size larger. the drill was easy since most of the threads
were gone already. Ran a tap through, and I was done with both of them in
10 minutes. Looks like there is still plenty of meat left on bolt that is
inside the frame, so I am good to go. Thanks for the idea.


"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>





Rusted 05-06-2005 12:07 AM

Re: cj frame repair
 
Follow up-

I tapped it one size larger. the drill was easy since most of the threads
were gone already. Ran a tap through, and I was done with both of them in
10 minutes. Looks like there is still plenty of meat left on bolt that is
inside the frame, so I am good to go. Thanks for the idea.


"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Ecybe.2431$r81.1899@fe50.usenetserver.com...
> There are 6 bolts that hold the skid plate / tranny onto the frame of a
> CJ. Well mine only has 4 with good threads, the other two have just enough
> thread bite to hold in the bolt, any more than that and they just twist.
> What is the best method to repair this? I hate helicoils, and if I drill
> our that nut inside the frame it may not work anyways? Any other repair
> ideas?
>
>






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