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QuickTruck 09-27-2006 06:47 PM

Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hey everyone,
I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
bellhousing?

Thanks,
Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-27-2006 07:15 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hi Don,
Engine side, on bellhousing. Probably easily found on any Rambler
stick in the bone yards:
http://jeep.avtograd.ru/engines/clut...kage_parts.gif
http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/TRANSMIS...KAGE%20KIT.jpg
http://k43.pbase.com/u29/the_rutger/...2.138_3816.jpg
http://www.net-whiz.net/rob/engine/i...2003051708.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> bellhousing?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-27-2006 07:15 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hi Don,
Engine side, on bellhousing. Probably easily found on any Rambler
stick in the bone yards:
http://jeep.avtograd.ru/engines/clut...kage_parts.gif
http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/TRANSMIS...KAGE%20KIT.jpg
http://k43.pbase.com/u29/the_rutger/...2.138_3816.jpg
http://www.net-whiz.net/rob/engine/i...2003051708.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> bellhousing?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-27-2006 07:15 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hi Don,
Engine side, on bellhousing. Probably easily found on any Rambler
stick in the bone yards:
http://jeep.avtograd.ru/engines/clut...kage_parts.gif
http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/TRANSMIS...KAGE%20KIT.jpg
http://k43.pbase.com/u29/the_rutger/...2.138_3816.jpg
http://www.net-whiz.net/rob/engine/i...2003051708.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> bellhousing?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


Earle Horton 09-27-2006 09:47 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Bill,

I can't really see what's in the bag, but this looks a lot like the setup
that Dodge used to use. Having well polished balls and keeping them greased
is crucial to the life of the nylon bushings and the whole mechanism. As
they taught me in the Basque Country, "lo importante es tener dos pelotas
bien puestas".

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:451B061C.6BBE4229@cox.net...
> Hi Don,
> Engine side, on bellhousing. Probably easily found on any Rambler
> stick in the bone yards:
> http://jeep.avtograd.ru/engines/clut...kage_parts.gif
> http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/TRANSMIS...KAGE%20KIT.jpg
> http://k43.pbase.com/u29/the_rutger/...2.138_3816.jpg
> http://www.net-whiz.net/rob/engine/i...2003051708.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> QuickTruck wrote:
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> > I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> > but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> > there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> > everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> > mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> > one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> > tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> > bellhousing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don W




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Earle Horton 09-27-2006 09:47 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Bill,

I can't really see what's in the bag, but this looks a lot like the setup
that Dodge used to use. Having well polished balls and keeping them greased
is crucial to the life of the nylon bushings and the whole mechanism. As
they taught me in the Basque Country, "lo importante es tener dos pelotas
bien puestas".

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:451B061C.6BBE4229@cox.net...
> Hi Don,
> Engine side, on bellhousing. Probably easily found on any Rambler
> stick in the bone yards:
> http://jeep.avtograd.ru/engines/clut...kage_parts.gif
> http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/TRANSMIS...KAGE%20KIT.jpg
> http://k43.pbase.com/u29/the_rutger/...2.138_3816.jpg
> http://www.net-whiz.net/rob/engine/i...2003051708.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> QuickTruck wrote:
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> > I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> > but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> > there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> > everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> > mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> > one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> > tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> > bellhousing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don W




--
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Earle Horton 09-27-2006 09:47 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Bill,

I can't really see what's in the bag, but this looks a lot like the setup
that Dodge used to use. Having well polished balls and keeping them greased
is crucial to the life of the nylon bushings and the whole mechanism. As
they taught me in the Basque Country, "lo importante es tener dos pelotas
bien puestas".

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:451B061C.6BBE4229@cox.net...
> Hi Don,
> Engine side, on bellhousing. Probably easily found on any Rambler
> stick in the bone yards:
> http://jeep.avtograd.ru/engines/clut...kage_parts.gif
> http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/TRANSMIS...KAGE%20KIT.jpg
> http://k43.pbase.com/u29/the_rutger/...2.138_3816.jpg
> http://www.net-whiz.net/rob/engine/i...2003051708.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> QuickTruck wrote:
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> > I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> > but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> > there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> > everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> > mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> > one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> > tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> > bellhousing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don W




--
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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-27-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
And Ford and GM.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I can't really see what's in the bag, but this looks a lot like the setup
> that Dodge used to use. Having well polished balls and keeping them greased
> is crucial to the life of the nylon bushings and the whole mechanism. As
> they taught me in the Basque Country, "lo importante es tener dos pelotas
> bien puestas".
>
> Earle


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-27-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
And Ford and GM.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I can't really see what's in the bag, but this looks a lot like the setup
> that Dodge used to use. Having well polished balls and keeping them greased
> is crucial to the life of the nylon bushings and the whole mechanism. As
> they taught me in the Basque Country, "lo importante es tener dos pelotas
> bien puestas".
>
> Earle


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-27-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
And Ford and GM.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I can't really see what's in the bag, but this looks a lot like the setup
> that Dodge used to use. Having well polished balls and keeping them greased
> is crucial to the life of the nylon bushings and the whole mechanism. As
> they taught me in the Basque Country, "lo importante es tener dos pelotas
> bien puestas".
>
> Earle


Mike Romain 09-28-2006 10:04 AM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
If you run it across level to the bellhousing, it's bracket should line
up with a couple holes there and be more or less level. It doesn't have
to be perfectly level by any means, the ball sockets on either end allow
for a reasonable tilt on it with full function still.

When I did mine I had some issues because my fiberglass body sits higher
up from the frame 'and' the inside floor or shell sits up an inch and a
half more so I could only line up one bellhousing bolt and keep it
within a reasonable tilt. Mine is 'almost' at the point where I need a
longer threaded adjuster rod, but that is easy enough to make if needed.

It held for almost 7 years before I managed to snap off that single bolt
and I twist up my CJ7 pretty good some trips....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> bellhousing?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


Mike Romain 09-28-2006 10:04 AM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
If you run it across level to the bellhousing, it's bracket should line
up with a couple holes there and be more or less level. It doesn't have
to be perfectly level by any means, the ball sockets on either end allow
for a reasonable tilt on it with full function still.

When I did mine I had some issues because my fiberglass body sits higher
up from the frame 'and' the inside floor or shell sits up an inch and a
half more so I could only line up one bellhousing bolt and keep it
within a reasonable tilt. Mine is 'almost' at the point where I need a
longer threaded adjuster rod, but that is easy enough to make if needed.

It held for almost 7 years before I managed to snap off that single bolt
and I twist up my CJ7 pretty good some trips....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> bellhousing?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


Mike Romain 09-28-2006 10:04 AM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
If you run it across level to the bellhousing, it's bracket should line
up with a couple holes there and be more or less level. It doesn't have
to be perfectly level by any means, the ball sockets on either end allow
for a reasonable tilt on it with full function still.

When I did mine I had some issues because my fiberglass body sits higher
up from the frame 'and' the inside floor or shell sits up an inch and a
half more so I could only line up one bellhousing bolt and keep it
within a reasonable tilt. Mine is 'almost' at the point where I need a
longer threaded adjuster rod, but that is easy enough to make if needed.

It held for almost 7 years before I managed to snap off that single bolt
and I twist up my CJ7 pretty good some trips....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm making my Scrambler a stick shift again. It was originally a T4
> but when i got it there was a engine / tranny swap with an automatic in
> there. The clutch pedal assembly is still under the dash, so I got
> everything to replace the factory bellcrank setup. I have everything
> mounted but have one question- where does the pivot mount? I have the
> one on the firewall mounted, but where does the pivot closest to the
> tranny tunnel mount? Is it fixed somewhere on the engine /
> bellhousing?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


QuickTruck 09-30-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 

Thanks for the help everyone!
I was thinking that's how it had to be, but wasnted to be sure. Once
I get my Ford 5 liter and T18 back in the Jeep I'll have to make it
work.

Thanks,
Don W


QuickTruck 09-30-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 

Thanks for the help everyone!
I was thinking that's how it had to be, but wasnted to be sure. Once
I get my Ford 5 liter and T18 back in the Jeep I'll have to make it
work.

Thanks,
Don W


QuickTruck 09-30-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 

Thanks for the help everyone!
I was thinking that's how it had to be, but wasnted to be sure. Once
I get my Ford 5 liter and T18 back in the Jeep I'll have to make it
work.

Thanks,
Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-30-2006 08:40 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hi Don,
I would think you could put the Jeep pivot ball onto the Ford
bracket: http://broncograveyard.com/dia/7/cludialinkage.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help everyone!
> I was thinking that's how it had to be, but wasnted to be sure. Once
> I get my Ford 5 liter and T18 back in the Jeep I'll have to make it
> work.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-30-2006 08:40 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hi Don,
I would think you could put the Jeep pivot ball onto the Ford
bracket: http://broncograveyard.com/dia/7/cludialinkage.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help everyone!
> I was thinking that's how it had to be, but wasnted to be sure. Once
> I get my Ford 5 liter and T18 back in the Jeep I'll have to make it
> work.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 09-30-2006 08:40 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Hi Don,
I would think you could put the Jeep pivot ball onto the Ford
bracket: http://broncograveyard.com/dia/7/cludialinkage.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help everyone!
> I was thinking that's how it had to be, but wasnted to be sure. Once
> I get my Ford 5 liter and T18 back in the Jeep I'll have to make it
> work.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


QuickTruck 10-01-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Don,
> I would think you could put the Jeep pivot ball onto the Ford
> bracket: http://broncograveyard.com/dia/7/cludialinkage.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I should have known if anyone would have a diagram of something, it
would be Bill ------.
What lineage is that?

Thanks,
Don W


QuickTruck 10-01-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Don,
> I would think you could put the Jeep pivot ball onto the Ford
> bracket: http://broncograveyard.com/dia/7/cludialinkage.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I should have known if anyone would have a diagram of something, it
would be Bill ------.
What lineage is that?

Thanks,
Don W


QuickTruck 10-01-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Don,
> I would think you could put the Jeep pivot ball onto the Ford
> bracket: http://broncograveyard.com/dia/7/cludialinkage.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I should have known if anyone would have a diagram of something, it
would be Bill ------.
What lineage is that?

Thanks,
Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-01-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Bronco.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> I should have known if anyone would have a diagram of something, it
> would be Bill ------.
> What lineage is that?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-01-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Bronco.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> I should have known if anyone would have a diagram of something, it
> would be Bill ------.
> What lineage is that?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-01-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Cj clutch linkage mouting
 
Bronco.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

QuickTruck wrote:
>
> I should have known if anyone would have a diagram of something, it
> would be Bill ------.
> What lineage is that?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W



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