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aGraham 05-10-2004 11:22 AM

CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
Sunday morning.

I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.

oh yeah, back to my problem....

Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?

--
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aGraham 05-11-2004 11:37 AM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
Anybody????

Also more info....
In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.

In article
<aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:

> During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> Sunday morning.
>
> I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
>
> oh yeah, back to my problem....
>
> Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?


--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)

aGraham 05-11-2004 11:37 AM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
Anybody????

Also more info....
In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.

In article
<aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:

> During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> Sunday morning.
>
> I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
>
> oh yeah, back to my problem....
>
> Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?


--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)

aGraham 05-11-2004 11:37 AM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
Anybody????

Also more info....
In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.

In article
<aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:

> During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> Sunday morning.
>
> I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
>
> oh yeah, back to my problem....
>
> Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?


--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)

aGraham 05-11-2004 11:37 AM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
Anybody????

Also more info....
In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.

In article
<aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:

> During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> Sunday morning.
>
> I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
>
> oh yeah, back to my problem....
>
> Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?


--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)

Mike Romain 05-11-2004 01:12 PM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
My guess is the rim and rubber seal on the fluid container are dirty
letting it leak out the top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

aGraham wrote:
>
> Anybody????
>
> Also more info....
> In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
> which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
> 20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
> designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.
>
> In article
> <aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
> aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:
>
> > During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> > much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> > was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> > Sunday morning.
> >
> > I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> > fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> > to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> > the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> > http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
> >
> > oh yeah, back to my problem....
> >
> > Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> > to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> > locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> > looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> > Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> > new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?

>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)


Mike Romain 05-11-2004 01:12 PM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
My guess is the rim and rubber seal on the fluid container are dirty
letting it leak out the top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

aGraham wrote:
>
> Anybody????
>
> Also more info....
> In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
> which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
> 20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
> designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.
>
> In article
> <aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
> aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:
>
> > During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> > much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> > was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> > Sunday morning.
> >
> > I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> > fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> > to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> > the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> > http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
> >
> > oh yeah, back to my problem....
> >
> > Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> > to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> > locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> > looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> > Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> > new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?

>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)


Mike Romain 05-11-2004 01:12 PM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
My guess is the rim and rubber seal on the fluid container are dirty
letting it leak out the top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

aGraham wrote:
>
> Anybody????
>
> Also more info....
> In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
> which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
> 20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
> designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.
>
> In article
> <aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
> aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:
>
> > During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> > much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> > was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> > Sunday morning.
> >
> > I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> > fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> > to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> > the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> > http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
> >
> > oh yeah, back to my problem....
> >
> > Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> > to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> > locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> > looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> > Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> > new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?

>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)


Mike Romain 05-11-2004 01:12 PM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
My guess is the rim and rubber seal on the fluid container are dirty
letting it leak out the top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

aGraham wrote:
>
> Anybody????
>
> Also more info....
> In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
> which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
> 20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
> designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.
>
> In article
> <aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
> aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:
>
> > During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> > much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> > was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> > Sunday morning.
> >
> > I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> > fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> > to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> > the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> > http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
> >
> > oh yeah, back to my problem....
> >
> > Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> > to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> > locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> > looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> > Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> > new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?

>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)


aGraham 05-11-2004 01:45 PM

Re: CJ 7 Brake Master Cylinder
 
There has been fluid leaking around the firewall since I bought it, that
is what make me think the seal finally died.

What do you think about the difference when I change the rear axle to a
Dana 44? Will I need a different MC?


In article <40A10968.C6890930@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> My guess is the rim and rubber seal on the fluid container are dirty
> letting it leak out the top.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> aGraham wrote:
> >
> > Anybody????
> >
> > Also more info....
> > In the near future I will be swapping in a rear Dana44 from a 74 CJ5,
> > which has 11" rear drums instead of my current 10.75" drums on the AMC
> > 20. Should I go ahead and get the MC from a 74? But the 74 was
> > designed for fron drums where I will be keeping my front disks.
> >
> > In article
> > <aarongraham-7CFBC3.11223810052004@corp-radius.supernews.com>,
> > aGraham <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote:
> >
> > > During wheeling Saturday I lost my brakes in my '79 CJ7, haven't had
> > > much time to diagnose it, due to yesterday being Mothers Day. My wife
> > > was mad I even had to borrow a trailer and go back and get the Jeep
> > > Sunday morning.
> > >
> > > I believe it may be leaking fluid from the Mastercylinder as I am losing
> > > fluid from both resevoirs. I could not diagnose it Saturday as it was
> > > to covered in mud to see anything and I was busy helping our club with
> > > the rest of our event. Picts can be seen here:
> > > http://www.mudnuts.org/gallery/dalton04 including a rolled UniMog.
> > >
> > > oh yeah, back to my problem....
> > >
> > > Some of you may remember me posting last week about my brake issues due
> > > to a sticking e-brake cable, I wonder if driving with the rear brakes
> > > locked then out of adjustment put to much stress on my resevoir. I
> > > looked online at NAPA and see many different choices for Master
> > > Cylinders for manual brakes. What are the differences besides
> > > new/rebuilt? Is there a big difference between a new and rebuilt unit?

> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)


--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)


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