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Kevin 12-29-2003 09:58 AM

Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html

I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
breakers for easier access.

http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php

I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.

Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
autos instead of breakers?


Mike Romain 12-29-2003 10:46 AM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
fuses.

Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
are long dead.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin wrote:
>
> /www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
>
> I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> breakers for easier access.
>
> http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
>
> I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
>
> Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> autos instead of breakers?


Mike Romain 12-29-2003 10:46 AM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
fuses.

Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
are long dead.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin wrote:
>
> /www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
>
> I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> breakers for easier access.
>
> http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
>
> I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
>
> Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> autos instead of breakers?


Mike Romain 12-29-2003 10:46 AM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
fuses.

Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
are long dead.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin wrote:
>
> /www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
>
> I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> breakers for easier access.
>
> http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
>
> I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
>
> Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> autos instead of breakers?


Kevin 12-29-2003 01:34 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> fuses.
>
> Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> are long dead.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
>>
>>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
>>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
>>breakers for easier access.
>>
>>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
>>
>>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
>>
>>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
>>autos instead of breakers?



The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
protect avonics in aircraft.


Kevin 12-29-2003 01:34 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> fuses.
>
> Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> are long dead.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
>>
>>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
>>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
>>breakers for easier access.
>>
>>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
>>
>>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
>>
>>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
>>autos instead of breakers?



The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
protect avonics in aircraft.


Kevin 12-29-2003 01:34 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> fuses.
>
> Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> are long dead.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
>>
>>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
>>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
>>breakers for easier access.
>>
>>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
>>
>>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
>>
>>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
>>autos instead of breakers?



The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
protect avonics in aircraft.


Mike Romain 12-29-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Kevin wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> > fuses.
> >
> > Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> > you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> > circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> > are long dead.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >
> >>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
> >>
> >>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> >>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> >>breakers for easier access.
> >>
> >>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
> >>
> >>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
> >>
> >>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> >>autos instead of breakers?

>
> The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
> protect avonics in aircraft.


I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.

I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
just regular breakers.

I sure wouldn't use them.

Mike

Mike Romain 12-29-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Kevin wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> > fuses.
> >
> > Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> > you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> > circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> > are long dead.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >
> >>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
> >>
> >>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> >>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> >>breakers for easier access.
> >>
> >>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
> >>
> >>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
> >>
> >>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> >>autos instead of breakers?

>
> The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
> protect avonics in aircraft.


I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.

I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
just regular breakers.

I sure wouldn't use them.

Mike

Mike Romain 12-29-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Kevin wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> > fuses.
> >
> > Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> > you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> > circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> > are long dead.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >
> >>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/InstallationSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
> >>
> >>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> >>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> >>breakers for easier access.
> >>
> >>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...view_photo.php
> >>
> >>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
> >>
> >>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> >>autos instead of breakers?

>
> The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
> protect avonics in aircraft.


I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.

I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
just regular breakers.

I sure wouldn't use them.

Mike

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-29-2003 03:27 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
All of the commercial trucks I've driven used circuit breakers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
> one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.
>
> I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
> just regular breakers.
>
> I sure wouldn't use them.
>
> Mike


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-29-2003 03:27 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
All of the commercial trucks I've driven used circuit breakers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
> one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.
>
> I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
> just regular breakers.
>
> I sure wouldn't use them.
>
> Mike


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-29-2003 03:27 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
All of the commercial trucks I've driven used circuit breakers.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
> one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.
>
> I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
> just regular breakers.
>
> I sure wouldn't use them.
>
> Mike


JimG 12-29-2003 03:37 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
I will agree with Mike on this one. Why would you want to spend that kind
of money on a breaker setup? Are you buying that many fuses? If so, fix
the problem that's blowing fuses.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
news:Rs_Hb.6579$xX.15391@attbi_s02...
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> > fuses.
> >
> > Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> > you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> > circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> > are long dead.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >

>
>>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/Installati

onSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
> >>
> >>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> >>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> >>breakers for easier access.
> >>

>
>>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...20&op=modload&

name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
> >>
> >>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
> >>
> >>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> >>autos instead of breakers?

>
>
> The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
> protect avonics in aircraft.
>




JimG 12-29-2003 03:37 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
I will agree with Mike on this one. Why would you want to spend that kind
of money on a breaker setup? Are you buying that many fuses? If so, fix
the problem that's blowing fuses.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
news:Rs_Hb.6579$xX.15391@attbi_s02...
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> > fuses.
> >
> > Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> > you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> > circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> > are long dead.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >

>
>>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/Installati

onSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
> >>
> >>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> >>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> >>breakers for easier access.
> >>

>
>>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...20&op=modload&

name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
> >>
> >>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
> >>
> >>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> >>autos instead of breakers?

>
>
> The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
> protect avonics in aircraft.
>




JimG 12-29-2003 03:37 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
I will agree with Mike on this one. Why would you want to spend that kind
of money on a breaker setup? Are you buying that many fuses? If so, fix
the problem that's blowing fuses.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
news:Rs_Hb.6579$xX.15391@attbi_s02...
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Unless you buy really expensive breakers, they are a lot slower than
> > fuses.
> >
> > Things like stereos and computers and about any other electronic part
> > you want to name work best/safest when fused. By the time some IC chip
> > circuits see an overload big enough to pop a mechanical breaker, they
> > are long dead.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >

>
>>/www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin/frame-aircraft.cgi?URL=/Aircraft/Installati

onSupply/CircuitBreakers.html
> >>
> >>I am thinking about replacing the fuses in my 99 TJ with push-pull type
> >>aircraft breakers. I am going to make another overhead panel to hold the
> >>breakers for easier access.
> >>

>
>>http://www.jeepboard.net/modules.php...20&op=modload&

name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
> >>
> >>I plan to mount the breakers in a panel forward of the electrical panel.
> >>
> >>Other than expense is there any other valid reason they uses fuses in
> >>autos instead of breakers?

>
>
> The breakers I am looking at run $14. to $22. each and are used to
> protect avonics in aircraft.
>




JimG 12-29-2003 03:42 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Hi Bill,

No doubt breakers are used in aircraft, boats (like my 270 SeaRay) and
commercial trucks. I guess it's for quick reset under emergency conditions.
When properly sized they can be nearly as effective as a fuse. The cost is
substantially more though.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FF08E34.471F358A@cox.net...
> All of the commercial trucks I've driven used circuit breakers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
> > one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.
> >
> > I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
> > just regular breakers.
> >
> > I sure wouldn't use them.
> >
> > Mike




JimG 12-29-2003 03:42 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Hi Bill,

No doubt breakers are used in aircraft, boats (like my 270 SeaRay) and
commercial trucks. I guess it's for quick reset under emergency conditions.
When properly sized they can be nearly as effective as a fuse. The cost is
substantially more though.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FF08E34.471F358A@cox.net...
> All of the commercial trucks I've driven used circuit breakers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
> > one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.
> >
> > I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
> > just regular breakers.
> >
> > I sure wouldn't use them.
> >
> > Mike




JimG 12-29-2003 03:42 PM

Re: Circuit breakers vs fuses
 
Hi Bill,

No doubt breakers are used in aircraft, boats (like my 270 SeaRay) and
commercial trucks. I guess it's for quick reset under emergency conditions.
When properly sized they can be nearly as effective as a fuse. The cost is
substantially more though.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FF08E34.471F358A@cox.net...
> All of the commercial trucks I've driven used circuit breakers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I have seen PB relays in electronic circuits lots, but never have I seen
> > one of their circuit breakers used for electronics.
> >
> > I also couldn't find any speed rating for them which implies they are
> > just regular breakers.
> >
> > I sure wouldn't use them.
> >
> > Mike





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