Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
suppose.

I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
suppose.

I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all the
time.

Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there is
debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
stressing things.

My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when on
wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.

I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch on wet
is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.

Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs a
used one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all the
time.

Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there is
debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
stressing things.

My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when on
wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.

I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch on wet
is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.

Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs a
used one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all the
time.

Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there is
debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
stressing things.

My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when on
wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.

I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch on wet
is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.

Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs a
used one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

If you REALLY have Full Time 4WD, Part Time is more likely in your Sport,
then you can indeed do what you were doing.

There are two 4WD systems used, Command Trac and Select Trac. One is the
NP231 (P/T), and the other is the NP232 (F/T) - I can never remember which
is the Command- and which is the Select- Trac. With either, you can shift
into the 4WD mode at any speed, but the P/T system doesn't really like 4WD
unless the tires can slip on the road surface to release stress. So, the P/T
system says you can shift into 4WD at any "safe speed", but the safety is
dependent on other factors. Basically, if it is safe to do 80, then you
should not be using P/T 4WD. Actually, if it is safe to be doing anything
over about 40, you should not be in 4WD if you have a P/T system.

You should ask your rebuilder if he is getting parts for the NP231 or the
NP232. This will tell you what the safe operating conditions are.




<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102541781.243303.269940@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).
>

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

If you REALLY have Full Time 4WD, Part Time is more likely in your Sport,
then you can indeed do what you were doing.

There are two 4WD systems used, Command Trac and Select Trac. One is the
NP231 (P/T), and the other is the NP232 (F/T) - I can never remember which
is the Command- and which is the Select- Trac. With either, you can shift
into the 4WD mode at any speed, but the P/T system doesn't really like 4WD
unless the tires can slip on the road surface to release stress. So, the P/T
system says you can shift into 4WD at any "safe speed", but the safety is
dependent on other factors. Basically, if it is safe to do 80, then you
should not be using P/T 4WD. Actually, if it is safe to be doing anything
over about 40, you should not be in 4WD if you have a P/T system.

You should ask your rebuilder if he is getting parts for the NP231 or the
NP232. This will tell you what the safe operating conditions are.




<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102541781.243303.269940@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).
>

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

If you REALLY have Full Time 4WD, Part Time is more likely in your Sport,
then you can indeed do what you were doing.

There are two 4WD systems used, Command Trac and Select Trac. One is the
NP231 (P/T), and the other is the NP232 (F/T) - I can never remember which
is the Command- and which is the Select- Trac. With either, you can shift
into the 4WD mode at any speed, but the P/T system doesn't really like 4WD
unless the tires can slip on the road surface to release stress. So, the P/T
system says you can shift into 4WD at any "safe speed", but the safety is
dependent on other factors. Basically, if it is safe to do 80, then you
should not be using P/T 4WD. Actually, if it is safe to be doing anything
over about 40, you should not be in 4WD if you have a P/T system.

You should ask your rebuilder if he is getting parts for the NP231 or the
NP232. This will tell you what the safe operating conditions are.




<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102541781.243303.269940@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).
>

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

I forgot to mention, even if you have a F/T system, it has a P/T settiing.
If you happened to be in the P/T mode, then you will have the problems you
are having.




<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102541781.243303.269940@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).
>

Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
 

I forgot to mention, even if you have a F/T system, it has a P/T settiing.
If you happened to be in the P/T mode, then you will have the problems you
are having.




<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102541781.243303.269940@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
> mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
> suppose.
>
> I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
> fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
> snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
> on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
> for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
> first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
> around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).
>