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KJ.Kate 12-23-2005 09:27 PM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
the page does not come up.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
:
: "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
: news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
: > KJ.Kate wrote:
: > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
Unfortunately
: a
: > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to
be
: > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
smart
: and
: >
: > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to kill
: > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong
: > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill it
: > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
: > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed
: > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if they
: > made them.
:
:
: Does this look familiar ?
: http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
:
: Dave Milne, Scotland
:
:



KJ.Kate 12-23-2005 09:27 PM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
the page does not come up.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
:
: "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
: news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
: > KJ.Kate wrote:
: > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
Unfortunately
: a
: > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to
be
: > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
smart
: and
: >
: > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to kill
: > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong
: > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill it
: > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
: > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed
: > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if they
: > made them.
:
:
: Does this look familiar ?
: http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
:
: Dave Milne, Scotland
:
:



KJ.Kate 12-23-2005 09:27 PM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
the page does not come up.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
:
: "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
: news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
: > KJ.Kate wrote:
: > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
Unfortunately
: a
: > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to
be
: > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
smart
: and
: >
: > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to kill
: > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong
: > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill it
: > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
: > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed
: > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if they
: > made them.
:
:
: Does this look familiar ?
: http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
:
: Dave Milne, Scotland
:
:



Tomes 12-24-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe. Interesting
stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
tho.

I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
* Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension achieves
unanimous comfort of the driver
* Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature
... and then:
* Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia

Tomes

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> the page does not come up.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> :
> : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
> : > KJ.Kate wrote:
> : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
> Unfortunately
> : a
> : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to
> be
> : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
> smart
> : and
> : >
> : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to

kill
> : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong
> : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill

it
> : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
> : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed
> : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if

they
> : > made them.
> :
> :
> : Does this look familiar ?
> : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> :
> :
>
>




Tomes 12-24-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe. Interesting
stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
tho.

I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
* Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension achieves
unanimous comfort of the driver
* Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature
... and then:
* Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia

Tomes

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> the page does not come up.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> :
> : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
> : > KJ.Kate wrote:
> : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
> Unfortunately
> : a
> : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to
> be
> : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
> smart
> : and
> : >
> : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to

kill
> : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong
> : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill

it
> : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
> : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed
> : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if

they
> : > made them.
> :
> :
> : Does this look familiar ?
> : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> :
> :
>
>




Tomes 12-24-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe. Interesting
stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
tho.

I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
* Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension achieves
unanimous comfort of the driver
* Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature
... and then:
* Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia

Tomes

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> the page does not come up.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> :
> : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
> : > KJ.Kate wrote:
> : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
> Unfortunately
> : a
> : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have to
> be
> : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
> smart
> : and
> : >
> : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to

kill
> : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was strong
> : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill

it
> : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
> : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They killed
> : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if

they
> : > made them.
> :
> :
> : Does this look familiar ?
> : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> :
> :
>
>




KJ.Kate 12-24-2005 07:50 AM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
still got nuttin.


"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:ss5rf.9204$3Z.1200@newsread1.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
: It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe.
Interesting
: stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
: tho.
:
: I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
: * Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension
achieves
: unanimous comfort of the driver
: * Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature
: .. and then:
: * Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia
:
: Tomes
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
: > the page does not come up.
: >
: >
: >
: > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
: > :
: > : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
: > : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
: > : > KJ.Kate wrote:
: > : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
: > Unfortunately
: > : a
: > : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have
to
: > be
: > : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
: > smart
: > : and
: > : >
: > : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to
: kill
: > : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was
strong
: > : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill
: it
: > : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
: > : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They
killed
: > : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if
: they
: > : > made them.
: > :
: > :
: > : Does this look familiar ?
: > : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
: > :
: > : Dave Milne, Scotland
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:



KJ.Kate 12-24-2005 07:50 AM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
still got nuttin.


"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:ss5rf.9204$3Z.1200@newsread1.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
: It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe.
Interesting
: stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
: tho.
:
: I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
: * Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension
achieves
: unanimous comfort of the driver
: * Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature
: .. and then:
: * Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia
:
: Tomes
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
: > the page does not come up.
: >
: >
: >
: > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
: > :
: > : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
: > : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
: > : > KJ.Kate wrote:
: > : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
: > Unfortunately
: > : a
: > : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have
to
: > be
: > : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
: > smart
: > : and
: > : >
: > : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to
: kill
: > : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was
strong
: > : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill
: it
: > : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
: > : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They
killed
: > : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if
: they
: > : > made them.
: > :
: > :
: > : Does this look familiar ?
: > : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
: > :
: > : Dave Milne, Scotland
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:



KJ.Kate 12-24-2005 07:50 AM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
still got nuttin.


"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:ss5rf.9204$3Z.1200@newsread1.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
: It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe.
Interesting
: stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
: tho.
:
: I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
: * Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension
achieves
: unanimous comfort of the driver
: * Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the temperature
: .. and then:
: * Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia
:
: Tomes
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
: > the page does not come up.
: >
: >
: >
: > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
: > :
: > : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
: > : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
: > : > KJ.Kate wrote:
: > : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
: > Unfortunately
: > : a
: > : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them have
to
: > be
: > : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have been
: > smart
: > : and
: > : >
: > : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to
: kill
: > : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was
strong
: > : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to kill
: it
: > : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
: > : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They
killed
: > : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today if
: they
: > : > made them.
: > :
: > :
: > : Does this look familiar ?
: > : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
: > :
: > : Dave Milne, Scotland
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:



Tomes 12-24-2005 12:56 PM

Re: Cherokee or Liberty???
 
bummer that. Maybe you have some setting in your browser getting in the
way....

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:Srbrf.12719$Lb1.10507@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
> still got nuttin.
>
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:ss5rf.9204$3Z.1200@newsread1.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> : It came up for me - wait a bit for it to come across the globe.
> Interesting
> : stuff. The City Cruiser looks to me like a Toyota FJ. No TJ look-alike
> : tho.
> :
> : I do get a kick out of the attempt at English translation:
> : * Steel leaf spring and hydraulic shock absorber on rear suspension
> achieves
> : unanimous comfort of the driver
> : * Air conditioning has cold and heat functions to control the

temperature
> : .. and then:
> : * Three spokes steering wheel increased sense of off road kinaesthesia
> :
> : Tomes
> :
> : "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
> : news:3m2rf.4267$Lb1.3771@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> : > the page does not come up.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : > news:E22rf.14137$iz3.9800@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> : > :
> : > : "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> : > : news:b5fd4$43acab99$45490842$20639@KNOLOGY.NET...
> : > : > KJ.Kate wrote:
> : > : > > Ok, NOW I get you. AND.. I agree with you on many points.
> : > Unfortunately
> : > : a
> : > : > > manufacturer can only produce so many models so some of them

have
> to
> : > be
> : > : > > changed or replaced to meet market demand. So far, they have

been
> : > smart
> : > : and
> : > : >
> : > : > Yeah, I understand that too. But in the Libby's case, they had to
> : kill
> : > : > the XJ in order to bring it to market. The market for XJs was
> strong
> : > : > and even growing when the Libby was brought out. They tried to

kill
> : it
> : > : > when they brought out the Grand (ZJ?) that was supposed to be its
> : > : > replacement. But demand was so high they had to keep it. They
> killed
> : > : > it to be able to sell Libbys. They'd still be selling XJs today

if
> : they
> : > : > made them.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : Does this look familiar ?
> : > : http://www.beijing-jeep.com/sc.html
> : > :
> : > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>





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