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GCooper 10-22-2003 07:52 PM

Cherokee electric windows
 
My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
hopefully more durable stamped steel.

I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
the warranty expired.)



Just Taylor 10-22-2003 09:10 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:52:32 -0400, "GCooper" <gcooper@gamewood.net>
wrote:

>My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
>Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
>replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
>redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
>hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>
>I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
>like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
>anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
>expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
>the warranty expired.)


The drivers side window failed on me last year but I had the 5/75,000
warranty from Chrysler so they fixed it under warranty... well it did
cost me $50 and of course that door didn't lock after that. I didn't
notice that it no longer locked for about a month (keyless entry) and of
course that had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the dealer
monkey's worked on the door a month earlier. $50 bucks
thankyouverymuch, sucker.

No problems with any of that since then, knock on wood.


--
Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'03 Audi S6 Avant
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Just Taylor 10-22-2003 09:10 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:52:32 -0400, "GCooper" <gcooper@gamewood.net>
wrote:

>My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
>Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
>replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
>redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
>hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>
>I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
>like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
>anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
>expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
>the warranty expired.)


The drivers side window failed on me last year but I had the 5/75,000
warranty from Chrysler so they fixed it under warranty... well it did
cost me $50 and of course that door didn't lock after that. I didn't
notice that it no longer locked for about a month (keyless entry) and of
course that had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the dealer
monkey's worked on the door a month earlier. $50 bucks
thankyouverymuch, sucker.

No problems with any of that since then, knock on wood.


--
Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'03 Audi S6 Avant
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Just Taylor 10-22-2003 09:10 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:52:32 -0400, "GCooper" <gcooper@gamewood.net>
wrote:

>My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
>Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
>replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
>redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
>hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>
>I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
>like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
>anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
>expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
>the warranty expired.)


The drivers side window failed on me last year but I had the 5/75,000
warranty from Chrysler so they fixed it under warranty... well it did
cost me $50 and of course that door didn't lock after that. I didn't
notice that it no longer locked for about a month (keyless entry) and of
course that had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the dealer
monkey's worked on the door a month earlier. $50 bucks
thankyouverymuch, sucker.

No problems with any of that since then, knock on wood.


--
Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'03 Audi S6 Avant
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-22-2003 09:20 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
Are you talking about those three little plastic thingies that act
like clutches in the window power motor gears?
http://www.----------.com/pwmotor.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

GCooper wrote:
>
> My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
> Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
> replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
> redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
> hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>
> I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
> like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
> anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
> expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
> the warranty expired.)


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-22-2003 09:20 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
Are you talking about those three little plastic thingies that act
like clutches in the window power motor gears?
http://www.----------.com/pwmotor.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

GCooper wrote:
>
> My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
> Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
> replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
> redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
> hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>
> I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
> like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
> anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
> expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
> the warranty expired.)


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-22-2003 09:20 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
Are you talking about those three little plastic thingies that act
like clutches in the window power motor gears?
http://www.----------.com/pwmotor.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

GCooper wrote:
>
> My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9 months.
> Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The $105
> replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
> redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
> hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>
> I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement. I'd
> like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
> anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
> expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times after
> the warranty expired.)


GCooper 10-24-2003 03:40 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
No, the failure on both of mine is the plastic insert that sits at the end
of the coil, and which transfers the lifting force of the coil to the
window.

In both of mine, I had to replace a like-new mechanism just because the 5
cent plastic peice is not accessible. I guess some mechanical engineer made
a 10 cent cost improvement, and got a bonus, when he designed in the plastic
part. Kinda like GE and the coffee maker, where the cheap fuse saved a
nickel, but didn't wotk all the time, and ended up killing a bunch of
people.


L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote in message <3F972CE2.FDA8C648@cox.net>...
> Are you talking about those three little plastic thingies that act
>like clutches in the window power motor gears?
>http://www.----------.com/pwmotor.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>GCooper wrote:
>>
>> My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9

months.
>> Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The

$105
>> replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
>> redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
>> hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>>
>> I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement.

I'd
>> like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
>> anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
>> expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times

after
>> the warranty expired.)




GCooper 10-24-2003 03:40 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
No, the failure on both of mine is the plastic insert that sits at the end
of the coil, and which transfers the lifting force of the coil to the
window.

In both of mine, I had to replace a like-new mechanism just because the 5
cent plastic peice is not accessible. I guess some mechanical engineer made
a 10 cent cost improvement, and got a bonus, when he designed in the plastic
part. Kinda like GE and the coffee maker, where the cheap fuse saved a
nickel, but didn't wotk all the time, and ended up killing a bunch of
people.


L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote in message <3F972CE2.FDA8C648@cox.net>...
> Are you talking about those three little plastic thingies that act
>like clutches in the window power motor gears?
>http://www.----------.com/pwmotor.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>GCooper wrote:
>>
>> My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9

months.
>> Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The

$105
>> replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
>> redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
>> hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>>
>> I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement.

I'd
>> like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
>> anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
>> expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times

after
>> the warranty expired.)




GCooper 10-24-2003 03:40 PM

Re: Cherokee electric windows
 
No, the failure on both of mine is the plastic insert that sits at the end
of the coil, and which transfers the lifting force of the coil to the
window.

In both of mine, I had to replace a like-new mechanism just because the 5
cent plastic peice is not accessible. I guess some mechanical engineer made
a 10 cent cost improvement, and got a bonus, when he designed in the plastic
part. Kinda like GE and the coffee maker, where the cheap fuse saved a
nickel, but didn't wotk all the time, and ended up killing a bunch of
people.


L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote in message <3F972CE2.FDA8C648@cox.net>...
> Are you talking about those three little plastic thingies that act
>like clutches in the window power motor gears?
>http://www.----------.com/pwmotor.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>GCooper wrote:
>>
>> My 1998 Cherokee has had both front window lifts fail in the last 9

months.
>> Both failed because of a small nylon tab that was poorly designed. The

$105
>> replacement assemblies (you can't buy the $.05 broken piece) sported a
>> redesign, where the weak nylon peice has been replaced by a peice of
>> hopefully more durable stamped steel.
>>
>> I have saved receipts and am preparing to make a case for reimbursement.

I'd
>> like to hear of similar experiences, to give me some more ammo. Also, had
>> anyone had any luck getting this replaced after the main warranty has
>> expired? (I know this happens, as they replaced my bad brakes 2 times

after
>> the warranty expired.)





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