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chassis dimensions
All,
Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. Thanks Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Your tried and true wheelbase is 84":
http://www.----------.com/cj5frame.jpg The '76 CJ-7 is wheelbase 94": http://www.----------.com/cjframe.jpg Why f**k it up? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Karl Norrena wrote: > > All, > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > Thanks > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Your tried and true wheelbase is 84":
http://www.----------.com/cj5frame.jpg The '76 CJ-7 is wheelbase 94": http://www.----------.com/cjframe.jpg Why f**k it up? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Karl Norrena wrote: > > All, > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > Thanks > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Your tried and true wheelbase is 84":
http://www.----------.com/cj5frame.jpg The '76 CJ-7 is wheelbase 94": http://www.----------.com/cjframe.jpg Why f**k it up? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Karl Norrena wrote: > > All, > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > Thanks > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Hey Karl,
I can't help you with any pics of chassis but I might have some ideas for your cj, I have a 74 cj5 also, the 76 frames were made wider at the rear than the front so that the springs mounted further out on the rear axle making it more stable. to use the springs you have for the 76 model you would have to custom make the spring mounts ( I think you will find the newer springs are a little wider than the old springs) What I did on my cj5 was I found an old ford f150 and cut the spring mounts off the chassis ( cant use the very rear mount as the fords shackle is inverted) I also used the ford springs, had the local spring maker shorten them and re arch them and took a ---- load of leaves out of them lol, I then bolted the ford spring mount onto the side of the jeeps chassis after cutting the original spring mount off, I had to custom make the rear shackle mount, what I liked about using the ford mounts is that it looks factory (but there isn't really any reason you couldn't custom fabricate your own mounts) doing this made my Jeep a lot more stable on the road, I could send a couple of pics if your interested Glenn "Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:5l7540dg93imqflsm0botbbpi1faj5klo7@4ax.com... > All, > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > Thanks > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Hey Karl,
I can't help you with any pics of chassis but I might have some ideas for your cj, I have a 74 cj5 also, the 76 frames were made wider at the rear than the front so that the springs mounted further out on the rear axle making it more stable. to use the springs you have for the 76 model you would have to custom make the spring mounts ( I think you will find the newer springs are a little wider than the old springs) What I did on my cj5 was I found an old ford f150 and cut the spring mounts off the chassis ( cant use the very rear mount as the fords shackle is inverted) I also used the ford springs, had the local spring maker shorten them and re arch them and took a ---- load of leaves out of them lol, I then bolted the ford spring mount onto the side of the jeeps chassis after cutting the original spring mount off, I had to custom make the rear shackle mount, what I liked about using the ford mounts is that it looks factory (but there isn't really any reason you couldn't custom fabricate your own mounts) doing this made my Jeep a lot more stable on the road, I could send a couple of pics if your interested Glenn "Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:5l7540dg93imqflsm0botbbpi1faj5klo7@4ax.com... > All, > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > Thanks > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Hey Karl,
I can't help you with any pics of chassis but I might have some ideas for your cj, I have a 74 cj5 also, the 76 frames were made wider at the rear than the front so that the springs mounted further out on the rear axle making it more stable. to use the springs you have for the 76 model you would have to custom make the spring mounts ( I think you will find the newer springs are a little wider than the old springs) What I did on my cj5 was I found an old ford f150 and cut the spring mounts off the chassis ( cant use the very rear mount as the fords shackle is inverted) I also used the ford springs, had the local spring maker shorten them and re arch them and took a ---- load of leaves out of them lol, I then bolted the ford spring mount onto the side of the jeeps chassis after cutting the original spring mount off, I had to custom make the rear shackle mount, what I liked about using the ford mounts is that it looks factory (but there isn't really any reason you couldn't custom fabricate your own mounts) doing this made my Jeep a lot more stable on the road, I could send a couple of pics if your interested Glenn "Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:5l7540dg93imqflsm0botbbpi1faj5klo7@4ax.com... > All, > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > Thanks > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Ford uses the Spring Over Axle too:
http://www.----------.com/broncorear.jpg which along with their front coil springs explain why we never see a Bronco at the top of the hill. We just see them bouncing like the TJs: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Glenn Wainwright wrote: > > Hey Karl, > > I can't help you with any pics of chassis but I might have some ideas for > your cj, I have a 74 cj5 also, the 76 frames were made wider at the rear > than the front so that the springs mounted further out on the rear axle > making it more stable. to use the springs you have for the 76 model you > would have to custom make the spring mounts ( I think you will find the > newer springs are a little wider than the old springs) > What I did on my cj5 was I found an old ford f150 and cut the spring mounts > off the chassis ( cant use the very rear mount as the fords shackle is > inverted) I also used the ford springs, had the local spring maker shorten > them and re arch them and took a ---- load of leaves out of them lol, I then > bolted the ford spring mount onto the side of the jeeps chassis after > cutting the original spring mount off, I had to custom make the rear shackle > mount, what I liked about using the ford mounts is that it looks factory > (but there isn't really any reason you couldn't custom fabricate your own > mounts) doing this made my Jeep a lot more stable on the road, I could send > a couple of pics if your interested > > Glenn > "Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > news:5l7540dg93imqflsm0botbbpi1faj5klo7@4ax.com... > > All, > > > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > > > Thanks > > > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Ford uses the Spring Over Axle too:
http://www.----------.com/broncorear.jpg which along with their front coil springs explain why we never see a Bronco at the top of the hill. We just see them bouncing like the TJs: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Glenn Wainwright wrote: > > Hey Karl, > > I can't help you with any pics of chassis but I might have some ideas for > your cj, I have a 74 cj5 also, the 76 frames were made wider at the rear > than the front so that the springs mounted further out on the rear axle > making it more stable. to use the springs you have for the 76 model you > would have to custom make the spring mounts ( I think you will find the > newer springs are a little wider than the old springs) > What I did on my cj5 was I found an old ford f150 and cut the spring mounts > off the chassis ( cant use the very rear mount as the fords shackle is > inverted) I also used the ford springs, had the local spring maker shorten > them and re arch them and took a ---- load of leaves out of them lol, I then > bolted the ford spring mount onto the side of the jeeps chassis after > cutting the original spring mount off, I had to custom make the rear shackle > mount, what I liked about using the ford mounts is that it looks factory > (but there isn't really any reason you couldn't custom fabricate your own > mounts) doing this made my Jeep a lot more stable on the road, I could send > a couple of pics if your interested > > Glenn > "Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > news:5l7540dg93imqflsm0botbbpi1faj5klo7@4ax.com... > > All, > > > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > > > Thanks > > > > Karl |
Re: chassis dimensions
Ford uses the Spring Over Axle too:
http://www.----------.com/broncorear.jpg which along with their front coil springs explain why we never see a Bronco at the top of the hill. We just see them bouncing like the TJs: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Glenn Wainwright wrote: > > Hey Karl, > > I can't help you with any pics of chassis but I might have some ideas for > your cj, I have a 74 cj5 also, the 76 frames were made wider at the rear > than the front so that the springs mounted further out on the rear axle > making it more stable. to use the springs you have for the 76 model you > would have to custom make the spring mounts ( I think you will find the > newer springs are a little wider than the old springs) > What I did on my cj5 was I found an old ford f150 and cut the spring mounts > off the chassis ( cant use the very rear mount as the fords shackle is > inverted) I also used the ford springs, had the local spring maker shorten > them and re arch them and took a ---- load of leaves out of them lol, I then > bolted the ford spring mount onto the side of the jeeps chassis after > cutting the original spring mount off, I had to custom make the rear shackle > mount, what I liked about using the ford mounts is that it looks factory > (but there isn't really any reason you couldn't custom fabricate your own > mounts) doing this made my Jeep a lot more stable on the road, I could send > a couple of pics if your interested > > Glenn > "Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > news:5l7540dg93imqflsm0botbbpi1faj5klo7@4ax.com... > > All, > > > > Does anyone have a picture, pdf, or similar of a 76 or newer cj-5 or > > cj-7 chassis layout from the factory service manual? I need to know > > the dimensions from eye to eye for the spring and shackle hangers. I > > am planning on installing an RE extreme duty lift kit on my '74 cj-5. > > The problem is that the lift kit is for '76 and newer CJs. I think I > > can fit the kit by installing 76 or newer spring and shackle hangers. > > Has anyone else done this? Does it seem strange? Is there an easier > > way? Are there '74 specific kits that will offer a comparable ride? > > Any help or advice is appreciated. I will be ordering the parts soon > > and dont want to put myself in an awkward postion. > > > > Thanks > > > > Karl |
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