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Cal 09-17-2006 07:19 PM

change oil brands..
 
How does the group feel about changing oil brands? I have a 97 GC, 150,000
miles. I have used havoline 10/30 every 3000 to 4000 miles since i have had
this jeep. I have a friend that changed from havoline 10/30 to valvoline
10/30 full synthetic, and his 4 cylinder sounds like a different engine. I
runs much quieter, even after 6000 miles on the oil. He has a '97 with
120,000 miles on it. "In the day", there was much said about possible
problems changing brands, different detergents may loosen sludge in the
engine, and changing brands was not advised. The difference in the sound of
his engine with the valvoline tells me he is getting better lubrication.
How does the group feel about changing brands? I have no rea reason to
change, no problems with mine. But if valvoline lubricates better...

cal



XS11E 09-17-2006 07:39 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in
news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com:

> How does the group feel about changing brands?


There's absolutely no reason not to and probably no reason to.

> I have no rea reason to change, no problems with mine. But if
> valvoline lubricates better...


I like Valvoline but I have no reason to think it will lubricate any
better than what you're using.

To me, reasons to change brand would be price and/or availability.

There's plenty of people here who will tell you their brand of oil is
WAAAAAAY better than your brand which "really sucks" but I've yet to
see an engine damaged by a particular brand of oil.

Stick to a major brand (the Havoline you're using is just fine), change
it on schedule and you'll be fine. I find it very hard to believe that
your friend's engine sounds much different than it did, most engines
will sound a bit quieter when old oil is replaced with new.

As for synthetic vs dino oil, either will work just fine.

Go ahead and switch, if you notice a difference than stick with the new
brand.

BTW, there is a SEVERE penalty for starting up the dreaded "Oil Thread"
on usenet, you'll have to send large sums of money to everyone here to
atone for your sin......

================================================== ===========
Summary and everything you need to know about motor oil:

"Oil is good, have some in your engine."
================================================== ===========




XS11E 09-17-2006 07:39 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in
news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com:

> How does the group feel about changing brands?


There's absolutely no reason not to and probably no reason to.

> I have no rea reason to change, no problems with mine. But if
> valvoline lubricates better...


I like Valvoline but I have no reason to think it will lubricate any
better than what you're using.

To me, reasons to change brand would be price and/or availability.

There's plenty of people here who will tell you their brand of oil is
WAAAAAAY better than your brand which "really sucks" but I've yet to
see an engine damaged by a particular brand of oil.

Stick to a major brand (the Havoline you're using is just fine), change
it on schedule and you'll be fine. I find it very hard to believe that
your friend's engine sounds much different than it did, most engines
will sound a bit quieter when old oil is replaced with new.

As for synthetic vs dino oil, either will work just fine.

Go ahead and switch, if you notice a difference than stick with the new
brand.

BTW, there is a SEVERE penalty for starting up the dreaded "Oil Thread"
on usenet, you'll have to send large sums of money to everyone here to
atone for your sin......

================================================== ===========
Summary and everything you need to know about motor oil:

"Oil is good, have some in your engine."
================================================== ===========




XS11E 09-17-2006 07:39 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in
news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com:

> How does the group feel about changing brands?


There's absolutely no reason not to and probably no reason to.

> I have no rea reason to change, no problems with mine. But if
> valvoline lubricates better...


I like Valvoline but I have no reason to think it will lubricate any
better than what you're using.

To me, reasons to change brand would be price and/or availability.

There's plenty of people here who will tell you their brand of oil is
WAAAAAAY better than your brand which "really sucks" but I've yet to
see an engine damaged by a particular brand of oil.

Stick to a major brand (the Havoline you're using is just fine), change
it on schedule and you'll be fine. I find it very hard to believe that
your friend's engine sounds much different than it did, most engines
will sound a bit quieter when old oil is replaced with new.

As for synthetic vs dino oil, either will work just fine.

Go ahead and switch, if you notice a difference than stick with the new
brand.

BTW, there is a SEVERE penalty for starting up the dreaded "Oil Thread"
on usenet, you'll have to send large sums of money to everyone here to
atone for your sin......

================================================== ===========
Summary and everything you need to know about motor oil:

"Oil is good, have some in your engine."
================================================== ===========




Troy 09-17-2006 08:41 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
Heh, I use whatever they have 6 quarts of. The parts store never seems to
have enough of one brand for what I need. I switch oil brands regularly,
but never use synthetic. Seems as long as I change on 3000 miles its
perfect.

Paypal me my share of the dough!

Troy

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9841A9615BD7Bxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in
> news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com:
>
>> How does the group feel about changing brands?

>
> There's absolutely no reason not to and probably no reason to.
>
>> I have no rea reason to change, no problems with mine. But if
>> valvoline lubricates better...

>
> I like Valvoline but I have no reason to think it will lubricate any
> better than what you're using.
>
> To me, reasons to change brand would be price and/or availability.
>
> There's plenty of people here who will tell you their brand of oil is
> WAAAAAAY better than your brand which "really sucks" but I've yet to
> see an engine damaged by a particular brand of oil.
>
> Stick to a major brand (the Havoline you're using is just fine), change
> it on schedule and you'll be fine. I find it very hard to believe that
> your friend's engine sounds much different than it did, most engines
> will sound a bit quieter when old oil is replaced with new.
>
> As for synthetic vs dino oil, either will work just fine.
>
> Go ahead and switch, if you notice a difference than stick with the new
> brand.
>
> BTW, there is a SEVERE penalty for starting up the dreaded "Oil Thread"
> on usenet, you'll have to send large sums of money to everyone here to
> atone for your sin......
>
> ================================================== ===========
> Summary and everything you need to know about motor oil:
>
> "Oil is good, have some in your engine."
> ================================================== ===========
>
>
>




Troy 09-17-2006 08:41 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
Heh, I use whatever they have 6 quarts of. The parts store never seems to
have enough of one brand for what I need. I switch oil brands regularly,
but never use synthetic. Seems as long as I change on 3000 miles its
perfect.

Paypal me my share of the dough!

Troy

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9841A9615BD7Bxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in
> news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com:
>
>> How does the group feel about changing brands?

>
> There's absolutely no reason not to and probably no reason to.
>
>> I have no rea reason to change, no problems with mine. But if
>> valvoline lubricates better...

>
> I like Valvoline but I have no reason to think it will lubricate any
> better than what you're using.
>
> To me, reasons to change brand would be price and/or availability.
>
> There's plenty of people here who will tell you their brand of oil is
> WAAAAAAY better than your brand which "really sucks" but I've yet to
> see an engine damaged by a particular brand of oil.
>
> Stick to a major brand (the Havoline you're using is just fine), change
> it on schedule and you'll be fine. I find it very hard to believe that
> your friend's engine sounds much different than it did, most engines
> will sound a bit quieter when old oil is replaced with new.
>
> As for synthetic vs dino oil, either will work just fine.
>
> Go ahead and switch, if you notice a difference than stick with the new
> brand.
>
> BTW, there is a SEVERE penalty for starting up the dreaded "Oil Thread"
> on usenet, you'll have to send large sums of money to everyone here to
> atone for your sin......
>
> ================================================== ===========
> Summary and everything you need to know about motor oil:
>
> "Oil is good, have some in your engine."
> ================================================== ===========
>
>
>




Troy 09-17-2006 08:41 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
Heh, I use whatever they have 6 quarts of. The parts store never seems to
have enough of one brand for what I need. I switch oil brands regularly,
but never use synthetic. Seems as long as I change on 3000 miles its
perfect.

Paypal me my share of the dough!

Troy

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9841A9615BD7Bxs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in
> news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com:
>
>> How does the group feel about changing brands?

>
> There's absolutely no reason not to and probably no reason to.
>
>> I have no rea reason to change, no problems with mine. But if
>> valvoline lubricates better...

>
> I like Valvoline but I have no reason to think it will lubricate any
> better than what you're using.
>
> To me, reasons to change brand would be price and/or availability.
>
> There's plenty of people here who will tell you their brand of oil is
> WAAAAAAY better than your brand which "really sucks" but I've yet to
> see an engine damaged by a particular brand of oil.
>
> Stick to a major brand (the Havoline you're using is just fine), change
> it on schedule and you'll be fine. I find it very hard to believe that
> your friend's engine sounds much different than it did, most engines
> will sound a bit quieter when old oil is replaced with new.
>
> As for synthetic vs dino oil, either will work just fine.
>
> Go ahead and switch, if you notice a difference than stick with the new
> brand.
>
> BTW, there is a SEVERE penalty for starting up the dreaded "Oil Thread"
> on usenet, you'll have to send large sums of money to everyone here to
> atone for your sin......
>
> ================================================== ===========
> Summary and everything you need to know about motor oil:
>
> "Oil is good, have some in your engine."
> ================================================== ===========
>
>
>




billy ray 09-17-2006 08:52 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
I am a firm believer in the semi and full synthetics. They are superior in
every way to dino spit.

That being said there are plenty of guys here who have gone 200-300k using
dino with no problems.... they key is regular changes. But for whatever
it's worth the extra cost is justified for my piece of mine

For years I've used whatever the 'house brand' of oil was. For years it was
Kendall, then Shell, then Exxon. They now offer Coastal as their 'house'
brand although I've never tried it.

If you want to know who actually owns your favorite brand there is a listing
available from the American Petroleum Institute of all the brands they
certify. The 18 MB PDF file is 215 pages long.









"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com...
> How does the group feel about changing oil brands? I have a 97 GC,
> 150,000 miles. I have used havoline 10/30 every 3000 to 4000 miles since
> i have had this jeep. I have a friend that changed from havoline 10/30 to
> valvoline 10/30 full synthetic, and his 4 cylinder sounds like a different
> engine. I runs much quieter, even after 6000 miles on the oil. He has a
> '97 with 120,000 miles on it. "In the day", there was much said about
> possible problems changing brands, different detergents may loosen sludge
> in the engine, and changing brands was not advised. The difference in the
> sound of his engine with the valvoline tells me he is getting better
> lubrication. How does the group feel about changing brands? I have no rea
> reason to change, no problems with mine. But if valvoline lubricates
> better...
>
> cal
>




billy ray 09-17-2006 08:52 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
I am a firm believer in the semi and full synthetics. They are superior in
every way to dino spit.

That being said there are plenty of guys here who have gone 200-300k using
dino with no problems.... they key is regular changes. But for whatever
it's worth the extra cost is justified for my piece of mine

For years I've used whatever the 'house brand' of oil was. For years it was
Kendall, then Shell, then Exxon. They now offer Coastal as their 'house'
brand although I've never tried it.

If you want to know who actually owns your favorite brand there is a listing
available from the American Petroleum Institute of all the brands they
certify. The 18 MB PDF file is 215 pages long.









"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com...
> How does the group feel about changing oil brands? I have a 97 GC,
> 150,000 miles. I have used havoline 10/30 every 3000 to 4000 miles since
> i have had this jeep. I have a friend that changed from havoline 10/30 to
> valvoline 10/30 full synthetic, and his 4 cylinder sounds like a different
> engine. I runs much quieter, even after 6000 miles on the oil. He has a
> '97 with 120,000 miles on it. "In the day", there was much said about
> possible problems changing brands, different detergents may loosen sludge
> in the engine, and changing brands was not advised. The difference in the
> sound of his engine with the valvoline tells me he is getting better
> lubrication. How does the group feel about changing brands? I have no rea
> reason to change, no problems with mine. But if valvoline lubricates
> better...
>
> cal
>




billy ray 09-17-2006 08:52 PM

Re: change oil brands..
 
I am a firm believer in the semi and full synthetics. They are superior in
every way to dino spit.

That being said there are plenty of guys here who have gone 200-300k using
dino with no problems.... they key is regular changes. But for whatever
it's worth the extra cost is justified for my piece of mine

For years I've used whatever the 'house brand' of oil was. For years it was
Kendall, then Shell, then Exxon. They now offer Coastal as their 'house'
brand although I've never tried it.

If you want to know who actually owns your favorite brand there is a listing
available from the American Petroleum Institute of all the brands they
certify. The 18 MB PDF file is 215 pages long.









"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HJkPg.11968$Qg.5444@southeast.rr.com...
> How does the group feel about changing oil brands? I have a 97 GC,
> 150,000 miles. I have used havoline 10/30 every 3000 to 4000 miles since
> i have had this jeep. I have a friend that changed from havoline 10/30 to
> valvoline 10/30 full synthetic, and his 4 cylinder sounds like a different
> engine. I runs much quieter, even after 6000 miles on the oil. He has a
> '97 with 120,000 miles on it. "In the day", there was much said about
> possible problems changing brands, different detergents may loosen sludge
> in the engine, and changing brands was not advised. The difference in the
> sound of his engine with the valvoline tells me he is getting better
> lubrication. How does the group feel about changing brands? I have no rea
> reason to change, no problems with mine. But if valvoline lubricates
> better...
>
> cal
>





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