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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-22-2003 11:40 AM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
"3. C.B. radio ( this is a must if you are going on any organized
trail rides )": http://www.4x4now.com/4whtbcr.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed. Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-22-2003 11:40 AM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
"3. C.B. radio ( this is a must if you are going on any organized
trail rides )": http://www.4x4now.com/4whtbcr.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed. Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7


TJim 11-22-2003 01:53 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
....to communicate on the trail.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yyJvb.29688$kL2.16321@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed.

Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
>
>




TJim 11-22-2003 01:53 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
....to communicate on the trail.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yyJvb.29688$kL2.16321@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed.

Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
>
>




TJim 11-22-2003 01:53 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
....to communicate on the trail.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yyJvb.29688$kL2.16321@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed.

Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
>
>




Fletcher 11-22-2003 03:00 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
CB = Good communication on large group / club rides, and possible able to
help in an emergency. Anyone can use one openly ( both a good and bad
thing )

CELL PHONE = Good an ordering pizza as long as you are not in the boonies.
Most places in Utah I wheel have very limited coverage, and the cell phone
is useless. It is too easy to get out of range to be used as a back country
emergency device

FRS = (Family Radio Service, like those Motorola hand held radios) We use
this often for family communication. Easy to just loan to someone in the
other jeep, or take with you on a hike. Ok for lightweight communication,
~2 mile range on open land, but drop into a slick rock hole and them may not
work 100 yards.

HAM RADIO = What I trust in my own jeep for emergency communication.
Requires a FCC license. I can easily have a crisp conversation over 100
miles away, and often talk 200 miles on a simply 2 meter radio. Repeaters
are common all over the country, and those will send your signal much father
and are common frequencies where other users and trained emergency personnel
can listen. Excellent for emergency communication, and communication with
other hams. Also non-licensed people can use the radio under supervision of
a licensed ham. Also important to know that in case of true emergency
anyone can use a ham radio to get assistance.


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yyJvb.29688$kL2.16321@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed.

Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
>
>





Fletcher 11-22-2003 03:00 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
CB = Good communication on large group / club rides, and possible able to
help in an emergency. Anyone can use one openly ( both a good and bad
thing )

CELL PHONE = Good an ordering pizza as long as you are not in the boonies.
Most places in Utah I wheel have very limited coverage, and the cell phone
is useless. It is too easy to get out of range to be used as a back country
emergency device

FRS = (Family Radio Service, like those Motorola hand held radios) We use
this often for family communication. Easy to just loan to someone in the
other jeep, or take with you on a hike. Ok for lightweight communication,
~2 mile range on open land, but drop into a slick rock hole and them may not
work 100 yards.

HAM RADIO = What I trust in my own jeep for emergency communication.
Requires a FCC license. I can easily have a crisp conversation over 100
miles away, and often talk 200 miles on a simply 2 meter radio. Repeaters
are common all over the country, and those will send your signal much father
and are common frequencies where other users and trained emergency personnel
can listen. Excellent for emergency communication, and communication with
other hams. Also non-licensed people can use the radio under supervision of
a licensed ham. Also important to know that in case of true emergency
anyone can use a ham radio to get assistance.


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yyJvb.29688$kL2.16321@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed.

Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
>
>





Fletcher 11-22-2003 03:00 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
CB = Good communication on large group / club rides, and possible able to
help in an emergency. Anyone can use one openly ( both a good and bad
thing )

CELL PHONE = Good an ordering pizza as long as you are not in the boonies.
Most places in Utah I wheel have very limited coverage, and the cell phone
is useless. It is too easy to get out of range to be used as a back country
emergency device

FRS = (Family Radio Service, like those Motorola hand held radios) We use
this often for family communication. Easy to just loan to someone in the
other jeep, or take with you on a hike. Ok for lightweight communication,
~2 mile range on open land, but drop into a slick rock hole and them may not
work 100 yards.

HAM RADIO = What I trust in my own jeep for emergency communication.
Requires a FCC license. I can easily have a crisp conversation over 100
miles away, and often talk 200 miles on a simply 2 meter radio. Repeaters
are common all over the country, and those will send your signal much father
and are common frequencies where other users and trained emergency personnel
can listen. Excellent for emergency communication, and communication with
other hams. Also non-licensed people can use the radio under supervision of
a licensed ham. Also important to know that in case of true emergency
anyone can use a ham radio to get assistance.


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yyJvb.29688$kL2.16321@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> Okay this should start a flame, but why the hell do people put CBs in
> Jeeps?!?! I love them and have one in my truck,..but that's only to spot
> cops. If you're in a jeep...especially a CJ,...ya can't hear a damn thing
> anyway and probably aren't going fast enough to get ticketed.

Secondly,..if
> you're on a trail and wheeling, a cell phone would work much better
> OR,...you shouldn't be by yourself in the first place.
> Thoughts?!?!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
>
>





Robert Bills 11-22-2003 05:21 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
>HAM RADIO = <snip> non-licensed people can use the radio under supervision of
a licensed ham.

Not exactly. A non-licensed third party is permitted to participate in a
transmission made for that third party if under the immediate supervision and
control of the Control Operator for that station, not just any licensed ham.
[FCC rule 97.115]

Also important to know that in case of true emergency
>anyone can use a ham radio to get assistance.


Also, not exactly. The rules permit a non-licensed person to transmit on a ham
station in an emergency situation invilving the immediate safety of human life
and protection of property, but only if normal communications systems are not
available (i.e., phone, cell phone, CB, etc.). [FCC Rules 97.401-407.]

Moral: Get a Ham license. Its not that hard, and a Ham radio is far more
effective for obtaining emergency assistance in remote areas than either a CB
or a cell phone. Personally, I have all three in my jeep.





Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Robert Bills 11-22-2003 05:21 PM

Re: CBs in Jeeps
 
>HAM RADIO = <snip> non-licensed people can use the radio under supervision of
a licensed ham.

Not exactly. A non-licensed third party is permitted to participate in a
transmission made for that third party if under the immediate supervision and
control of the Control Operator for that station, not just any licensed ham.
[FCC rule 97.115]

Also important to know that in case of true emergency
>anyone can use a ham radio to get assistance.


Also, not exactly. The rules permit a non-licensed person to transmit on a ham
station in an emergency situation invilving the immediate safety of human life
and protection of property, but only if normal communications systems are not
available (i.e., phone, cell phone, CB, etc.). [FCC Rules 97.401-407.]

Moral: Get a Ham license. Its not that hard, and a Ham radio is far more
effective for obtaining emergency assistance in remote areas than either a CB
or a cell phone. Personally, I have all three in my jeep.





Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com


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