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j 03-26-2007 10:33 AM

cat backs
 
95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?

thanks


Earle Horton 03-26-2007 11:41 AM

Re: cat backs
 
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> 95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
> back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>


Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too, so
you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine until
the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth the
price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized" mufflers
and exhaust components aren't worth crap.

Earle




Earle Horton 03-26-2007 11:41 AM

Re: cat backs
 
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> 95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
> back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>


Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too, so
you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine until
the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth the
price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized" mufflers
and exhaust components aren't worth crap.

Earle




Earle Horton 03-26-2007 11:41 AM

Re: cat backs
 
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> 95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
> back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>


Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too, so
you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine until
the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth the
price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized" mufflers
and exhaust components aren't worth crap.

Earle




DougW 03-26-2007 06:35 PM

Re: cat backs
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> "j" wrote ...
>> 95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
>> back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>>

>
> Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery
> too, so you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will
> loosen up. With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then
> you are fine until the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless
> is definitely worth the price unless you like replacing exhaust
> components. "Aluminized" mufflers and exhaust components aren't
> worth crap.


I went with the Aluminized Gibson, sure it's a bit rusty but the waranty
was the same. The stainless was neat, but I'm going to drag the muffler
on rocks so why go shiny? :) They did throw in a shiny polished stainless
muffler tip. Good for another 5hp. ^_^

As for slipping, I just had a local shop throw a couple of spot welds
on the pipes. Easy enough to grind off if something needs to be moved.


--
DougW



DougW 03-26-2007 06:35 PM

Re: cat backs
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> "j" wrote ...
>> 95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
>> back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>>

>
> Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery
> too, so you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will
> loosen up. With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then
> you are fine until the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless
> is definitely worth the price unless you like replacing exhaust
> components. "Aluminized" mufflers and exhaust components aren't
> worth crap.


I went with the Aluminized Gibson, sure it's a bit rusty but the waranty
was the same. The stainless was neat, but I'm going to drag the muffler
on rocks so why go shiny? :) They did throw in a shiny polished stainless
muffler tip. Good for another 5hp. ^_^

As for slipping, I just had a local shop throw a couple of spot welds
on the pipes. Easy enough to grind off if something needs to be moved.


--
DougW



DougW 03-26-2007 06:35 PM

Re: cat backs
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> "j" wrote ...
>> 95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
>> back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>>

>
> Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery
> too, so you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will
> loosen up. With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then
> you are fine until the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless
> is definitely worth the price unless you like replacing exhaust
> components. "Aluminized" mufflers and exhaust components aren't
> worth crap.


I went with the Aluminized Gibson, sure it's a bit rusty but the waranty
was the same. The stainless was neat, but I'm going to drag the muffler
on rocks so why go shiny? :) They did throw in a shiny polished stainless
muffler tip. Good for another 5hp. ^_^

As for slipping, I just had a local shop throw a couple of spot welds
on the pipes. Easy enough to grind off if something needs to be moved.


--
DougW



Lon 03-26-2007 10:05 PM

Re: cat backs
 
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
>>back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>>

>
>
> Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too, so
> you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
> With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine until
> the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth the
> price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized" mufflers
> and exhaust components aren't worth crap.
>
> Earle


Yeah, I'd have to go with Borland too. That way you can just compile up
whatever exhaust you want and run it thru a development studio.

tsk, senility in the old is just so sad...

Lon 03-26-2007 10:05 PM

Re: cat backs
 
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
>>back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>>

>
>
> Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too, so
> you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
> With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine until
> the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth the
> price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized" mufflers
> and exhaust components aren't worth crap.
>
> Earle


Yeah, I'd have to go with Borland too. That way you can just compile up
whatever exhaust you want and run it thru a development studio.

tsk, senility in the old is just so sad...

Lon 03-26-2007 10:05 PM

Re: cat backs
 
Earle Horton proclaimed:
> "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
>>back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
>>

>
>
> Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too, so
> you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
> With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine until
> the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth the
> price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized" mufflers
> and exhaust components aren't worth crap.
>
> Earle


Yeah, I'd have to go with Borland too. That way you can just compile up
whatever exhaust you want and run it thru a development studio.

tsk, senility in the old is just so sad...

Earle Horton 03-26-2007 11:27 PM

Re: cat backs
 
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YPCdnabni8V-5pXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Earle Horton proclaimed:
> > "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >>95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
> >>back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
> >>

> >
> >
> > Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too,
> > so
> > you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
> > With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine
> > until
> > the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth
> > the
> > price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized"
> > mufflers and exhaust components aren't worth crap.
> >
> > Earle

>
> Yeah, I'd have to go with Borland too. That way you can just compile up
> whatever exhaust you want and run it thru a development studio.
>
> tsk, senility in the old is just so sad...


"Borla" then. I must be catching it from Bill. I put one on my Suburban
four years ago and I am quite happy with it. Or maybe it was a Gibson.
Hell. I looked at the picture of the honey that would supposedly answer the
phone if I had a technical question, and I had to sit down a bit. The one I
put on my Jeep two years ago is one of those too. It is doing quite well.
I thought about welding it but the clamps are holding pretty well. Keep
reading this stuff and you'll catch it too.

Earle



Earle Horton 03-26-2007 11:27 PM

Re: cat backs
 
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YPCdnabni8V-5pXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Earle Horton proclaimed:
> > "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >>95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
> >>back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
> >>

> >
> >
> > Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too,
> > so
> > you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
> > With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine
> > until
> > the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth
> > the
> > price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized"
> > mufflers and exhaust components aren't worth crap.
> >
> > Earle

>
> Yeah, I'd have to go with Borland too. That way you can just compile up
> whatever exhaust you want and run it thru a development studio.
>
> tsk, senility in the old is just so sad...


"Borla" then. I must be catching it from Bill. I put one on my Suburban
four years ago and I am quite happy with it. Or maybe it was a Gibson.
Hell. I looked at the picture of the honey that would supposedly answer the
phone if I had a technical question, and I had to sit down a bit. The one I
put on my Jeep two years ago is one of those too. It is doing quite well.
I thought about welding it but the clamps are holding pretty well. Keep
reading this stuff and you'll catch it too.

Earle



Earle Horton 03-26-2007 11:27 PM

Re: cat backs
 
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YPCdnabni8V-5pXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Earle Horton proclaimed:
> > "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174919599.657558.32350@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >>95 wrangler with the four banger. the muffler is toast. need a cat
> >>back. who has the best? is stainless worth the price?
> >>

> >
> >
> > Borland. Stainless doesn't rust, but it does dent. It's slippery too,
> > so
> > you have to check the clamps periodically as the joints will loosen up.
> > With non-stainless the joints will rust together and then you are fine
> > until
> > the muffler gets a big rust hole in it. Stainless is definitely worth
> > the
> > price unless you like replacing exhaust components. "Aluminized"
> > mufflers and exhaust components aren't worth crap.
> >
> > Earle

>
> Yeah, I'd have to go with Borland too. That way you can just compile up
> whatever exhaust you want and run it thru a development studio.
>
> tsk, senility in the old is just so sad...


"Borla" then. I must be catching it from Bill. I put one on my Suburban
four years ago and I am quite happy with it. Or maybe it was a Gibson.
Hell. I looked at the picture of the honey that would supposedly answer the
phone if I had a technical question, and I had to sit down a bit. The one I
put on my Jeep two years ago is one of those too. It is doing quite well.
I thought about welding it but the clamps are holding pretty well. Keep
reading this stuff and you'll catch it too.

Earle




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