Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.

I saw this unit on ebay but the description does not mention relays
for the keyless entry.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=14934

Any links that you may be able to provide are appreciated.

TIA

Re: Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

Mad Izms did pass the time by typing:
> I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
> installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
> between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
> myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
> systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
> Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
> system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
> relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.

The difficult part in installing a vehicle alarm is getting to the
>>correct<< wires. The rest is fairly academic.

Take for example the Clifford in my ZJ. It has tie-ins to the stock
alarm, each window circuit, the ignition circuit, neutral safety
switch, and fuel pump, sensors, etc. About a days worth of work
done over the weekend at the installers. Prior to that we took about
2 days to read vehicle schematics, identify, and test each wire to
make sure we didn't cut something bad or splice into the airbag. :O
(I worked with the installer since this was the first time that alarm
was installed in a ZJ) Clifford got a gunnipig, I got a some promo stuff.

Figure a high end alarm installed by a shop could take four or more
hours. Also consider that most higher end alarms have great warrantee
as long as they are dealer installed. Install them yourself and the
warrantee usually shrinks to 30 days.

If your going to do it yourself, make sure you have the schematic
for your XJ or that the alarm makers website has instructions for your
model year.

I'm not current on alarms, so my only advice is to shop capability
and warrantee.

A site you can use to see one of the higer end system.
http://www.carwondersinc.com/alarms.htm


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors

Re: Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

Mad Izms did pass the time by typing:
> I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
> installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
> between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
> myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
> systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
> Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
> system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
> relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.

The difficult part in installing a vehicle alarm is getting to the
>>correct<< wires. The rest is fairly academic.

Take for example the Clifford in my ZJ. It has tie-ins to the stock
alarm, each window circuit, the ignition circuit, neutral safety
switch, and fuel pump, sensors, etc. About a days worth of work
done over the weekend at the installers. Prior to that we took about
2 days to read vehicle schematics, identify, and test each wire to
make sure we didn't cut something bad or splice into the airbag. :O
(I worked with the installer since this was the first time that alarm
was installed in a ZJ) Clifford got a gunnipig, I got a some promo stuff.

Figure a high end alarm installed by a shop could take four or more
hours. Also consider that most higher end alarms have great warrantee
as long as they are dealer installed. Install them yourself and the
warrantee usually shrinks to 30 days.

If your going to do it yourself, make sure you have the schematic
for your XJ or that the alarm makers website has instructions for your
model year.

I'm not current on alarms, so my only advice is to shop capability
and warrantee.

A site you can use to see one of the higer end system.
http://www.carwondersinc.com/alarms.htm


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors

Re: Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

Mad Izms did pass the time by typing:
> I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
> installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
> between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
> myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
> systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
> Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
> system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
> relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.

The difficult part in installing a vehicle alarm is getting to the
>>correct<< wires. The rest is fairly academic.

Take for example the Clifford in my ZJ. It has tie-ins to the stock
alarm, each window circuit, the ignition circuit, neutral safety
switch, and fuel pump, sensors, etc. About a days worth of work
done over the weekend at the installers. Prior to that we took about
2 days to read vehicle schematics, identify, and test each wire to
make sure we didn't cut something bad or splice into the airbag. :O
(I worked with the installer since this was the first time that alarm
was installed in a ZJ) Clifford got a gunnipig, I got a some promo stuff.

Figure a high end alarm installed by a shop could take four or more
hours. Also consider that most higher end alarms have great warrantee
as long as they are dealer installed. Install them yourself and the
warrantee usually shrinks to 30 days.

If your going to do it yourself, make sure you have the schematic
for your XJ or that the alarm makers website has instructions for your
model year.

I'm not current on alarms, so my only advice is to shop capability
and warrantee.

A site you can use to see one of the higer end system.
http://www.carwondersinc.com/alarms.htm


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors

Re: Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

I recently installed a bulldog keyless entry with a starter disable
function at pep boys for 39.95
It took 3 hours to install after i bought the optional relay #773 for the
starter kill.
Was pretty easy after i found the wiring plug at the passenger door for
all(two wires) to be cut and spliced. the
starter kill relay was easy as i just cut into the under dash wire to the
starter solenoid from the ignition key.
relay was another 7.00
works great and you cannot start the truck unless you unlock with the remote
buttons
john
review at
www.bulldogsecurity.com



"Mad Izms" <madizms@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ba5a793e.0403031458.53ec9308@posting.google.c om...
> I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
> installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
> between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
> myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
> systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
> Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
> system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
> relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.
>
> I saw this unit on ebay but the description does not mention relays
> for the keyless entry.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=14934
>
> Any links that you may be able to provide are appreciated.
>
> TIA

Re: Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

I recently installed a bulldog keyless entry with a starter disable
function at pep boys for 39.95
It took 3 hours to install after i bought the optional relay #773 for the
starter kill.
Was pretty easy after i found the wiring plug at the passenger door for
all(two wires) to be cut and spliced. the
starter kill relay was easy as i just cut into the under dash wire to the
starter solenoid from the ignition key.
relay was another 7.00
works great and you cannot start the truck unless you unlock with the remote
buttons
john
review at
www.bulldogsecurity.com



"Mad Izms" <madizms@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ba5a793e.0403031458.53ec9308@posting.google.c om...
> I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
> installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
> between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
> myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
> systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
> Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
> system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
> relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.
>
> I saw this unit on ebay but the description does not mention relays
> for the keyless entry.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=14934
>
> Any links that you may be able to provide are appreciated.
>
> TIA

Re: Car alarm and installation help 96 XJ
 

I recently installed a bulldog keyless entry with a starter disable
function at pep boys for 39.95
It took 3 hours to install after i bought the optional relay #773 for the
starter kill.
Was pretty easy after i found the wiring plug at the passenger door for
all(two wires) to be cut and spliced. the
starter kill relay was easy as i just cut into the under dash wire to the
starter solenoid from the ignition key.
relay was another 7.00
works great and you cannot start the truck unless you unlock with the remote
buttons
john
review at
www.bulldogsecurity.com



"Mad Izms" <madizms@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ba5a793e.0403031458.53ec9308@posting.google.c om...
> I'm looking for some help and recommendations regarding car alarms and
> installations. Since most of the shops in my area(Philly, PA) want
> between $200-$500 to install a unit I'm thinking about doing it
> myself. I have a background in electronics, but not car electrical
> systems. Hoping that the two are similar I think I'm up to the task.
> Could anyone recommend a simple alarm/remote start/keyless entry
> system that I could install and not have to purchase additional
> relays? I don't want to spend more than 160.
>
> I saw this unit on ebay but the description does not mention relays
> for the keyless entry.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=14934
>
> Any links that you may be able to provide are appreciated.
>
> TIA