Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

You're on the wrong end. The engine is always aimed for the rear
axle. therefore: drain is always on the rear half of block. On yours it
looks like you would peek under the catalytic and us an socket extension
over it top. Look for a site hole though the fender well to drive from.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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billy ray wrote:
>
> This may be his problem.... where's the plug?
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...0Drain%20Plug/

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

You're on the wrong end. The engine is always aimed for the rear
axle. therefore: drain is always on the rear half of block. On yours it
looks like you would peek under the catalytic and us an socket extension
over it top. Look for a site hole though the fender well to drive from.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> This may be his problem.... where's the plug?
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...0Drain%20Plug/

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

You're on the wrong end. The engine is always aimed for the rear
axle. therefore: drain is always on the rear half of block. On yours it
looks like you would peek under the catalytic and us an socket extension
over it top. Look for a site hole though the fender well to drive from.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> This may be his problem.... where's the plug?
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...0Drain%20Plug/

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

I don't understand why you are changing types of antifreeze. This is
not normally a good thing to do, 'especially' if you aren't going to
drain the block.

Be aware that the block and heater will hold close to 50% of the
system's volume with the water you use to flush it so when filling it
back up, you need to use at least 50% of the system's volume in 'pure'
antifreeze first, then top it up with distilled water. Normally it will
only take a quart or two once the 50% pure is in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dennis wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for your response.
> Sounds like installing the flushing tee is the way to go. I had a rough time
> finding the Zerex G-05 antifreeze. First I went to Carquest and they never
> heard of it ,so then I went to Napa and they never heard of it, went to
> Advance Auto and they don't carry it, and these are all vendors who are
> supposed to have it. Don't have a Pep Boys in town
> so my last chance was Auto Zone. They had it hidden away in a far corner of
> the store away from all the rest of the antifreeze?????????
>
> Thanks again,
> Dennis B

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

I don't understand why you are changing types of antifreeze. This is
not normally a good thing to do, 'especially' if you aren't going to
drain the block.

Be aware that the block and heater will hold close to 50% of the
system's volume with the water you use to flush it so when filling it
back up, you need to use at least 50% of the system's volume in 'pure'
antifreeze first, then top it up with distilled water. Normally it will
only take a quart or two once the 50% pure is in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dennis wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for your response.
> Sounds like installing the flushing tee is the way to go. I had a rough time
> finding the Zerex G-05 antifreeze. First I went to Carquest and they never
> heard of it ,so then I went to Napa and they never heard of it, went to
> Advance Auto and they don't carry it, and these are all vendors who are
> supposed to have it. Don't have a Pep Boys in town
> so my last chance was Auto Zone. They had it hidden away in a far corner of
> the store away from all the rest of the antifreeze?????????
>
> Thanks again,
> Dennis B

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

I don't understand why you are changing types of antifreeze. This is
not normally a good thing to do, 'especially' if you aren't going to
drain the block.

Be aware that the block and heater will hold close to 50% of the
system's volume with the water you use to flush it so when filling it
back up, you need to use at least 50% of the system's volume in 'pure'
antifreeze first, then top it up with distilled water. Normally it will
only take a quart or two once the 50% pure is in.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dennis wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for your response.
> Sounds like installing the flushing tee is the way to go. I had a rough time
> finding the Zerex G-05 antifreeze. First I went to Carquest and they never
> heard of it ,so then I went to Napa and they never heard of it, went to
> Advance Auto and they don't carry it, and these are all vendors who are
> supposed to have it. Don't have a Pep Boys in town
> so my last chance was Auto Zone. They had it hidden away in a far corner of
> the store away from all the rest of the antifreeze?????????
>
> Thanks again,
> Dennis B

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

If he used the flush-n-fill kit he bought the different coolants shouldn't
be a problem.

Someone a while back (Earle?) mentioned using an air compressor turned down
to 10-15 psi to blow the water out of the heater core. I've never tried
that and hesitate to use a compressor but perhaps a few puffs on the upper
heater hose would work to evacuate the water.

As Mike mentioned always use the coolant concentrate because there is always
a bit of residual water and you want to coolant concentration to be 50-60%
(Less than 44% offers almost no anti-corrosion or cavitation protection)
The minerals in tap water promote corrosion, use distilled water to top off
the system.

I took a look at my 4 liter last night, if the drain plug is where Bill says
then there is no way to easily access it if you are crawling underneath as
the exhaust system pre-cats block a large section of real estate.. I pulled
the lower radiator hose loose.

My system was full of slime as the original owner allowed her corner
quickie-lube to top it off with Prestone universal (she left the maintenance
receipts with the Jeep) and it turned the factory G-05 into reddish-brown
slime. I used the Zerex flush to clean the cooling system out and continued
using the flush-n-fill kit far longer than the directions indicate. I kept
cycling the flush and fills until the system ran completely clear and then
did it twice more after that..... just to make sure all the slime was
gone...






"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45588E1C.7B174076@sympatico.ca...
>I don't understand why you are changing types of antifreeze. This is
> not normally a good thing to do, 'especially' if you aren't going to
> drain the block.
>
> Be aware that the block and heater will hold close to 50% of the
> system's volume with the water you use to flush it so when filling it
> back up, you need to use at least 50% of the system's volume in 'pure'
> antifreeze first, then top it up with distilled water. Normally it will
> only take a quart or two once the 50% pure is in.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to all for your response.
>> Sounds like installing the flushing tee is the way to go. I had a rough
>> time
>> finding the Zerex G-05 antifreeze. First I went to Carquest and they
>> never
>> heard of it ,so then I went to Napa and they never heard of it, went to
>> Advance Auto and they don't carry it, and these are all vendors who are
>> supposed to have it. Don't have a Pep Boys in town
>> so my last chance was Auto Zone. They had it hidden away in a far corner
>> of
>> the store away from all the rest of the antifreeze?????????
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Dennis B

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

If he used the flush-n-fill kit he bought the different coolants shouldn't
be a problem.

Someone a while back (Earle?) mentioned using an air compressor turned down
to 10-15 psi to blow the water out of the heater core. I've never tried
that and hesitate to use a compressor but perhaps a few puffs on the upper
heater hose would work to evacuate the water.

As Mike mentioned always use the coolant concentrate because there is always
a bit of residual water and you want to coolant concentration to be 50-60%
(Less than 44% offers almost no anti-corrosion or cavitation protection)
The minerals in tap water promote corrosion, use distilled water to top off
the system.

I took a look at my 4 liter last night, if the drain plug is where Bill says
then there is no way to easily access it if you are crawling underneath as
the exhaust system pre-cats block a large section of real estate.. I pulled
the lower radiator hose loose.

My system was full of slime as the original owner allowed her corner
quickie-lube to top it off with Prestone universal (she left the maintenance
receipts with the Jeep) and it turned the factory G-05 into reddish-brown
slime. I used the Zerex flush to clean the cooling system out and continued
using the flush-n-fill kit far longer than the directions indicate. I kept
cycling the flush and fills until the system ran completely clear and then
did it twice more after that..... just to make sure all the slime was
gone...






"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45588E1C.7B174076@sympatico.ca...
>I don't understand why you are changing types of antifreeze. This is
> not normally a good thing to do, 'especially' if you aren't going to
> drain the block.
>
> Be aware that the block and heater will hold close to 50% of the
> system's volume with the water you use to flush it so when filling it
> back up, you need to use at least 50% of the system's volume in 'pure'
> antifreeze first, then top it up with distilled water. Normally it will
> only take a quart or two once the 50% pure is in.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to all for your response.
>> Sounds like installing the flushing tee is the way to go. I had a rough
>> time
>> finding the Zerex G-05 antifreeze. First I went to Carquest and they
>> never
>> heard of it ,so then I went to Napa and they never heard of it, went to
>> Advance Auto and they don't carry it, and these are all vendors who are
>> supposed to have it. Don't have a Pep Boys in town
>> so my last chance was Auto Zone. They had it hidden away in a far corner
>> of
>> the store away from all the rest of the antifreeze?????????
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Dennis B

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

If he used the flush-n-fill kit he bought the different coolants shouldn't
be a problem.

Someone a while back (Earle?) mentioned using an air compressor turned down
to 10-15 psi to blow the water out of the heater core. I've never tried
that and hesitate to use a compressor but perhaps a few puffs on the upper
heater hose would work to evacuate the water.

As Mike mentioned always use the coolant concentrate because there is always
a bit of residual water and you want to coolant concentration to be 50-60%
(Less than 44% offers almost no anti-corrosion or cavitation protection)
The minerals in tap water promote corrosion, use distilled water to top off
the system.

I took a look at my 4 liter last night, if the drain plug is where Bill says
then there is no way to easily access it if you are crawling underneath as
the exhaust system pre-cats block a large section of real estate.. I pulled
the lower radiator hose loose.

My system was full of slime as the original owner allowed her corner
quickie-lube to top it off with Prestone universal (she left the maintenance
receipts with the Jeep) and it turned the factory G-05 into reddish-brown
slime. I used the Zerex flush to clean the cooling system out and continued
using the flush-n-fill kit far longer than the directions indicate. I kept
cycling the flush and fills until the system ran completely clear and then
did it twice more after that..... just to make sure all the slime was
gone...






"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45588E1C.7B174076@sympatico.ca...
>I don't understand why you are changing types of antifreeze. This is
> not normally a good thing to do, 'especially' if you aren't going to
> drain the block.
>
> Be aware that the block and heater will hold close to 50% of the
> system's volume with the water you use to flush it so when filling it
> back up, you need to use at least 50% of the system's volume in 'pure'
> antifreeze first, then top it up with distilled water. Normally it will
> only take a quart or two once the 50% pure is in.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to all for your response.
>> Sounds like installing the flushing tee is the way to go. I had a rough
>> time
>> finding the Zerex G-05 antifreeze. First I went to Carquest and they
>> never
>> heard of it ,so then I went to Napa and they never heard of it, went to
>> Advance Auto and they don't carry it, and these are all vendors who are
>> supposed to have it. Don't have a Pep Boys in town
>> so my last chance was Auto Zone. They had it hidden away in a far corner
>> of
>> the store away from all the rest of the antifreeze?????????
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Dennis B

Re: Can't find the coolant drain plug???
 

What did you do with all that waste fluid?


billy ray wrote:
> I took a look at my 4 liter last night, if the drain plug is where Bill says
> then there is no way to easily access it if you are crawling underneath as
> the exhaust system pre-cats block a large section of real estate.. I pulled
> the lower radiator hose loose.
>
> My system was full of slime as the original owner allowed her corner
> quickie-lube to top it off with Prestone universal (she left the maintenance
> receipts with the Jeep) and it turned the factory G-05 into reddish-brown
> slime. I used the Zerex flush to clean the cooling system out and continued
> using the flush-n-fill kit far longer than the directions indicate. I kept
> cycling the flush and fills until the system ran completely clear and then
> did it twice more after that..... just to make sure all the slime was
> gone...


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Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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