can you paint the fender flares?
 

is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
specific kind of paint that would work?

thanks,

will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

This was answered before and someone used a fine scotchbrite pad to scuff
and then coated with something. I was actually thinking about this on my way
home yesterday and couldn't remember what the 'something' was. I think it
would be easiest to remove them to scuff and recoat, easier than trying not
to scratch the paint.

Looking forward to the other responses.


<WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rjXQa.74985$hV.5095823@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
> get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> specific kind of paint that would work?
>
> thanks,
>
> will
>
>

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

thanks for the link.
i did see the black chrome as the last one on the product list... fyi

will

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:3f164afe.16953287@wilhelp.com...
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:00:55 GMT, <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> >flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
> >get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> >specific kind of paint that would work?
>
> The black fender flares and side molding on my XJ have faded as well and
> though I thought about having them painted the same color as my Jeep,
> until I get around to doing I used Turtle Wax's "Black Chrome" which
> brings back the black for a few months. I know there are other brands
> but I like the Black Chrome.
>
> I went by their website and I guess I have a old bottle. Turtle Wax is
> now calling their Black Chrome "Wet'n Black."
>
> http://www.turtlewax.com/products/pages/t-282.htm
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '89 Audi 200
> '01 Audi A6 2.7T
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Just Taylor wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:00:55 GMT, <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
>>flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
>>get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
>>specific kind of paint that would work?
>
> The black fender flares and side molding on my XJ have faded as well and
> though I thought about having them painted the same color as my Jeep,
> until I get around to doing I used Turtle Wax's "Black Chrome" which
> brings back the black for a few months. I know there are other brands
> but I like the Black Chrome.
>
> I went by their website and I guess I have a old bottle. Turtle Wax is
> now calling their Black Chrome "Wet'n Black."
>
> http://www.turtlewax.com/products/pages/t-282.htm

Knock wood, it looks like roughening the surface a bit, using a
prepaint cleaner, then painting with dilute black Rustoleum seems
to be holding up much better than the black waxes did. Plus
you only need to clean black off your fingers ONCE. I used
a brush, a roughly 1 inch round flat ended artist type from
the local hobby store, it seems to have given a suitably
rough surface texture.

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

I have also read that using a heat gun will renew the color.

In article <OAYQa.74999$hV.5108566@twister.austin.rr.com>,
<WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> yeah, i figured i'd take them off first. then you don't even have to
> worry
> about the paint.
> let us know if you think of what he used.
>
> will
>
> "Harkin Banks" <news@davidsturgeon.com> wrote in message
> news:1QXQa.548$Iv4.190@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> > This was answered before and someone used a fine scotchbrite pad to
> > scuff
> > and then coated with something. I was actually thinking about this on
> > my
> way
> > home yesterday and couldn't remember what the 'something' was. I think
> > it
> > would be easiest to remove them to scuff and recoat, easier than trying
> not
> > to scratch the paint.
> >
> > Looking forward to the other responses.
> >
> >
> > <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:rjXQa.74985$hV.5095823@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> > > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true
> > > black
> > > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it
> > > possible
> to
> > > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there
> > > a
> > > specific kind of paint that would work?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Aaron Graham
http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
1948 Willys & 1979 CJ7
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Don't agree at all - plenty of cars come with painted plastic that doesn't
crack. Some of the small Euro cars even have plastic wings (how nasty is
that ??) which will deflect a couple of inches without cracking !! You need
plenty of plasticiser in the mix though and that is expensive ( ~ 75 gbp per
litre ).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F145504.BA38CA6B@cox.net...
: Hi Will,
: If you paint, no matter how well prepared and using a rubberized
: based paint it will eventually peal and look like an alligator. I've
: never used it, but there's a product called "Back to Black" that works
: on passenger cars. Or you could pretend you have a Real Jeep and take
: the garbage off.
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
: >
: > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
: > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
: > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
: > specific kind of paint that would work?
: >
: > thanks,
: >
: > will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

thanks... how long do you think it would last between peel's or repaints?

this is my main ride and i have 31x10.5's on '97 TJ
would it be street legal with them off?

will

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F145504.BA38CA6B@cox.net...
> Hi Will,
> If you paint, no matter how well prepared and using a rubberized
> based paint it will eventually peal and look like an alligator. I've
> never used it, but there's a product called "Back to Black" that works
> on passenger cars. Or you could pretend you have a Real Jeep and take
> the garbage off.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
> > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > specific kind of paint that would work?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

There's only one way to find out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
>
> thanks... how long do you think it would last between peel's or repaints?
>
> this is my main ride and i have 31x10.5's on '97 TJ
> would it be street legal with them off?
>
> will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

I think it'd be tough to get a coating of paint to stick on the plastic.

Maybe an epoxy type spray on like a Linex bedliner coating would
adhere.

I've just applied some of the Wet n Shine stuff. Looks fine until
it dries out. Then just reapply it.

Six of one, half dozen of the other...

Jeff

WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
>
> is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
> get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> specific kind of paint that would work?
>
> thanks,
>
> will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

I was at Home Depot yesterday buying paint for the house when I saw a can of
Plastic Spray Paint by a company called Krylon.

http://www.krylon.com/product/gp_pro....asp?sgID=GP07

The example in the store was a plastic lawn chair that had half of it
painted and the coating looked really durable. I don't know how durable
after being hit with a few rocks, but it was only $10 a can.
<WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rjXQa.74985$hV.5095823@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
> get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> specific kind of paint that would work?
>
> thanks,
>
> will
>
>

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

I've used Back to Black, think Mothers makes it.

It doesn't last more than a week or two, but it sure smells nice - just like
coconuts - looks like coconut milk too - gee, now I'm wondering...



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F145504.BA38CA6B@cox.net...
> Hi Will,
> If you paint, no matter how well prepared and using a rubberized
> based paint it will eventually peal and look like an alligator. I've
> never used it, but there's a product called "Back to Black" that works
> on passenger cars. Or you could pretend you have a Real Jeep and take
> the garbage off.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
> > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > specific kind of paint that would work?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

i think i'm looking for a more permanent solution than something that will
dry out.
is linex something you can do yourself or do you have to get someone to do
it?

will

"jhultman" <jhultman@cisco.com> wrote in message
news:3F14667E.51DA3452@cisco.com...
> I think it'd be tough to get a coating of paint to stick on the plastic.
>
> Maybe an epoxy type spray on like a Linex bedliner coating would
> adhere.
>
> I've just applied some of the Wet n Shine stuff. Looks fine until
> it dries out. Then just reapply it.
>
> Six of one, half dozen of the other...
>
> Jeff
>
> WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
> > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > specific kind of paint that would work?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

In article <en_Qa.75081$hV.5131324@twister.austin.rr.com>,
<WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> writes:

>i think i'm looking for a more permanent solution than something that will
>dry out.
>is linex something you can do yourself or do you have to get someone to do
>it?
>
>will
>

Line-X is done at a shop. I roughed up my XJ's flares and sprayed them with
several coats of Duplicolor Truck Bed Liner, not worth a damn for spraying in a
truck bed but ot worked OK on the flares, Preparation is the key, make sure
they are well-roughed. The stuff can be bought at Auto Zone, Meijer (in the
Midwest), probably just about any larger auto parts store would have it in the
paint department. One can will probably net you two coats on each flare.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

I painted my fenders two years ago, and they still look good. I went to a auto
store and got a can of plastic prep its a spray can . then get a can of
bumper paint. I found the paint in a small local store so im
sure that pep boys or any other auto store would have it. the brand name of
mine is SEM Rick

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Not sure on painting, but with all the people swapping their stock
flares for wider ones there's bound to be some for sale out there.
There's definitely some on ebay.


> <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:rjXQa.74985$hV.5095823@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
> > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > specific kind of paint that would work?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > will
> >
> >

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:

> is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible to
> get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> specific kind of paint that would work?

You should paint them with the same paint the manufacturer uses and the same
variety (ie. RM Diamont or Dupont Emron) and make sure to add an elastomer
agent to make it flexible for the urethane or it will be brittle and won't
last. You also should use something like a plastic prep agent to ensure
that it sticks to the plastic.

Sounds as if you don't know much about autobody, so I'd advise you to seek
professional help with painting them.

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

It's a job for a Linex Dealer, BTW I'm not associated to.
Just like what I've seen of their product. You would have to
ask them how likely it would stick to plastic. I know they
use the stuff on boat decks for a better footing. But of course
fiberglass is different. Hmmm, There's a linex shop downtown.
I'll do some footwork, it's EOB here soooo... manana.

If there's a Linex shop around maybe you can ask them what it would
cost to mix a little extra on their next job.

Jeff



WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
>
> i think i'm looking for a more permanent solution than something that will
> dry out.
> is linex something you can do yourself or do you have to get someone to do
> it?
>
> will
>
> "jhultman" <jhultman@cisco.com> wrote in message
> news:3F14667E.51DA3452@cisco.com...
> > I think it'd be tough to get a coating of paint to stick on the plastic.
> >
> > Maybe an epoxy type spray on like a Linex bedliner coating would
> > adhere.
> >
> > I've just applied some of the Wet n Shine stuff. Looks fine until
> > it dries out. Then just reapply it.
> >
> > Six of one, half dozen of the other...
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
> to
> > > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > > specific kind of paint that would work?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > will

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

When I had my 90 XJ repainted by a local paint body-shop, they also painted
the flares to the original silver-ish color. It looked great until I took
it off-road and rubbed up against a few tree-trunks and boulders. Now the
silver paint is peeling off leaving the black plastic. All the
aftermarket-flare manufacturers claim that their flares are paintable.
Might want to check with them on what they would recommend. One
manufacturer that comes to mind is Bushwackers. (www.bushwacker.com). If
they have some recommendations I hope you will share them with the group.
"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3f149574$0$73622$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com wrote:
>
> > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
> > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > specific kind of paint that would work?
>
> You should paint them with the same paint the manufacturer uses and the
same
> variety (ie. RM Diamont or Dupont Emron) and make sure to add an elastomer
> agent to make it flexible for the urethane or it will be brittle and won't
> last. You also should use something like a plastic prep agent to ensure
> that it sticks to the plastic.
>
> Sounds as if you don't know much about autobody, so I'd advise you to seek
> professional help with painting them.

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Just wondering why the CJ and YJ flares dont look like the TJ flares? I am
not talking about shape but the way they fade/wether/oxidize.


Brand Howard
www.jeeproject.com

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Cheap? ;-)

Brand Howard wrote:
>
> Just wondering why the CJ and YJ flares dont look like the TJ flares? I am
> not talking about shape but the way they fade/wether/oxidize.
>
> Brand Howard
> www.jeeproject.com

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=35776

is this the kind of heat gun you used? as in would it work?

will


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:gg5Ra.10931$u51.7685@fed1read05...
> Listen up... no rumor. None of that stuff will last, and much of it will
> make them look WORSE after some time.
>
> The following method involves no chemicals or paint, is free, and outlasts
> anything I've ever tried. Six months so far. It came highly recommended
to
> me a few years ago and it's become very popular.
>
> It's a heat gun. Yes, a common every day heat gun. NOT a hair dryer,
they
> don't get hot enough. Turn the heat gun on 'High' and run it along the
> surface of the flare. It's like the heat gun were spraying fresh black
> paint onto the flares. It's amazing. It restores the finish, it doesn't
> just mask it. No, you don't have to worry about the paint or mask
anything
> off. Just use a little common sense and don't hold the heat gun output
> steady so it's pointed at the paint for an excessively long time.
>
> Forget about all those "Back to Black", "Black Chrome", paint, and all
that
> other crap. The heat gun really works, works well, and people that are
> convinced to try it, as I was, come away convinced and amazed how well it
> works.
>
> Jerry
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:rjXQa.74985$hV.5095823@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it possible
to
> > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there a
> > specific kind of paint that would work?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > will
> >
> >
>
>

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Absolutely 100% correct. Did you ever notice when you have a plastic
something or other and the plastic gets bent or dented at some point? The
plastic develops that unsightly white/grey crease at the point of
bending. The handy dandy heat gun will remove the discoloration.

Mike Roper

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Jerry Bransford wrote:

> From: Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@cox.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.jeep-l, rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:20:09 -0700
> Subject: Re: can you paint the fender flares?
>
> Listen up... no rumor. None of that stuff will last, and much of it will
> make them look WORSE after some time.
>
> The following method involves no chemicals or paint, is free, and outlasts
> anything I've ever tried. Six months so far. It came highly recommended to
> me a few years ago and it's become very popular.
>
> It's a heat gun. Yes, a common every day heat gun. NOT a hair dryer, they
> don't get hot enough. Turn the heat gun on 'High' and run it along the
> surface of the flare. It's like the heat gun were spraying fresh black
> paint onto the flares. It's amazing. It restores the finish, it doesn't
> just mask it. No, you don't have to worry about the paint or mask anything
> off. Just use a little common sense and don't hold the heat gun output
> steady so it's pointed at the paint for an excessively long time.
>
> Forget about all those "Back to Black", "Black Chrome", paint, and all that
> other crap. The heat gun really works, works well, and people that are
> convinced to try it, as I was, come away convinced and amazed how well it
> works.
>
> Jerry
>

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Yep, that'll work fine.

--
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

<WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uzcRa.90059$TJ.4827387@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=35776
>
> is this the kind of heat gun you used? as in would it work?
>
> will
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:gg5Ra.10931$u51.7685@fed1read05...
> > Listen up... no rumor. None of that stuff will last, and much of it
will
> > make them look WORSE after some time.
> >
> > The following method involves no chemicals or paint, is free, and
outlasts
> > anything I've ever tried. Six months so far. It came highly
recommended
> to
> > me a few years ago and it's become very popular.
> >
> > It's a heat gun. Yes, a common every day heat gun. NOT a hair dryer,
> they
> > don't get hot enough. Turn the heat gun on 'High' and run it along the
> > surface of the flare. It's like the heat gun were spraying fresh black
> > paint onto the flares. It's amazing. It restores the finish, it
doesn't
> > just mask it. No, you don't have to worry about the paint or mask
> anything
> > off. Just use a little common sense and don't hold the heat gun output
> > steady so it's pointed at the paint for an excessively long time.
> >
> > Forget about all those "Back to Black", "Black Chrome", paint, and all
> that
> > other crap. The heat gun really works, works well, and people that are
> > convinced to try it, as I was, come away convinced and amazed how well
it
> > works.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:rjXQa.74985$hV.5095823@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> > > is it possible to paint the fender flares? i'd rather have true black
> > > flares than the UV beaten gray that mine have become... is it
possible
> to
> > > get some spray paint and just paint them black again? if so is there
a
> > > specific kind of paint that would work?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

Just Taylor wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:20:09 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Forget about all those "Back to Black", "Black Chrome", paint, and all that
>>other crap. The heat gun really works, works well, and people that are
>>convinced to try it, as I was, come away convinced and amazed how well it
>>works.
>
> For the boneheads like me who used "Black Chrome" is there anything that
> needs to be done *before* using a heat gun? If they should be cleaned
> first (more than just a simple washing) what do you think would be good
> to use?
>
> On that note... I like the heat gun from Harbor Freight & Tools posted
> in this thread, I can pick one up locally... what about the temp?
> Should I use the 630° or 1000° setting?
>
> Thanks as always, Jerry.

An easy way to remember rough temps is that paper and
wood will char and burn at 451 F. Easier if you are
into classic Science Fiction of course.

A heat gun can help remove the appearance of the crazing
at bend faults in plastic. It can also heat the surface
of oxidized plastic enough to make it look darker. Cannot
imagine why anyone would expect the heat treated surface
to last a heck of a lot longer than the original one, as
you start with plastic and end up with the same, partially
melted, plastic plus a bit more of the plasticizers pulled
to the surface by the heat.

Re: can you paint the fender flares?
 

I can't say which heat setting on any particular heat gun will work. My
heat gun's lower temperature setting doesn't do anything, only the higher
temp setting worked. I would try the cooler setting first then switch to
the hotter setting if it didn't work.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:20:09 -0700, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Forget about all those "Back to Black", "Black Chrome", paint, and all
that
> >other crap. The heat gun really works, works well, and people that are
> >convinced to try it, as I was, come away convinced and amazed how well it
> >works.
>
> For the boneheads like me who used "Black Chrome" is there anything that
> needs to be done *before* using a heat gun? If they should be cleaned
> first (more than just a simple washing) what do you think would be good
> to use?
>
> On that note... I like the heat gun from Harbor Freight & Tools posted
> in this thread, I can pick one up locally... what about the temp?
> Should I use the 630° or 1000° setting?
>
> Thanks as always, Jerry.
>
>
> --
> Taylor
>
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