Re: burning/leaking oil
 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> petethepirate proclaimed:
>
> > i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
> > while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
> > synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
> > block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
> > valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
> > im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
> > has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
> > miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
> >
> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with Jeeps.
> With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil loss
> but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can see it.
> The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made worse by
> folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting on a new
> cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>

You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's overkill,
but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.

Earle

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> petethepirate proclaimed:
>
> > i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
> > while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
> > synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
> > block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
> > valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
> > im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
> > has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
> > miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
> >
> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with Jeeps.
> With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil loss
> but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can see it.
> The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made worse by
> folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting on a new
> cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>

You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's overkill,
but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.

Earle

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> petethepirate proclaimed:
>
> > i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
> > while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
> > synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
> > block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
> > valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
> > im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
> > has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
> > miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
> >
> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with Jeeps.
> With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil loss
> but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can see it.
> The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made worse by
> folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting on a new
> cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>

You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's overkill,
but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.

Earle

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:27:40 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> petethepirate proclaimed:
>>
>> > i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
>> > while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
>> > synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
>> > block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
>> > valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
>> > im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
>> > has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
>> > miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with
>> Jeeps. With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil
>> loss but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can
>> see it. The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made
>> worse by folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting
>> on a new cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>>
>>
> You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
> from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's
> overkill, but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.

Or just find a piece of malleable copper and cut a washer from that -
lasts through many, many oil changes and doesn't take all that much
pressure to seal every time. Sure outlasts the plastic seals!
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:27:40 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> petethepirate proclaimed:
>>
>> > i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
>> > while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
>> > synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
>> > block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
>> > valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
>> > im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
>> > has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
>> > miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with
>> Jeeps. With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil
>> loss but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can
>> see it. The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made
>> worse by folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting
>> on a new cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>>
>>
> You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
> from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's
> overkill, but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.

Or just find a piece of malleable copper and cut a washer from that -
lasts through many, many oil changes and doesn't take all that much
pressure to seal every time. Sure outlasts the plastic seals!
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:27:40 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> petethepirate proclaimed:
>>
>> > i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
>> > while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
>> > synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
>> > block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
>> > valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
>> > im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
>> > has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
>> > miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with
>> Jeeps. With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil
>> loss but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can
>> see it. The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made
>> worse by folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting
>> on a new cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>>
>>
> You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
> from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's
> overkill, but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.

Or just find a piece of malleable copper and cut a washer from that -
lasts through many, many oil changes and doesn't take all that much
pressure to seal every time. Sure outlasts the plastic seals!
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> petethepirate proclaimed:
>>
>>> i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
>>> while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
>>> synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
>>> block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
>>> valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
>>> im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
>>> has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
>>> miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
>>>
>> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with Jeeps.
>> With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil loss
>> but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can see it.
>> The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made worse by
>> folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting on a new
>> cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>>
>
> You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
> from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's overkill,
> but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.
>
> Earle
>
>

Back when I worked in garages we replaced 'every' oil drain plug washer
when doing an oil change. The copper ones are crush sleeves that are
one use only ones. The newer nylon ones can maybe be used more than
once, but I even have a box of those here and replace mine.

$0.15 is really cheap insurance the oil will stay put.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> petethepirate proclaimed:
>>
>>> i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
>>> while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
>>> synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
>>> block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
>>> valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
>>> im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
>>> has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
>>> miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
>>>
>> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with Jeeps.
>> With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil loss
>> but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can see it.
>> The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made worse by
>> folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting on a new
>> cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>>
>
> You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
> from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's overkill,
> but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.
>
> Earle
>
>

Back when I worked in garages we replaced 'every' oil drain plug washer
when doing an oil change. The copper ones are crush sleeves that are
one use only ones. The newer nylon ones can maybe be used more than
once, but I even have a box of those here and replace mine.

$0.15 is really cheap insurance the oil will stay put.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YPCdnaHni8Un4ZXbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> petethepirate proclaimed:
>>
>>> i am loosing oil in my 4.0L-im not sure how. i had 5w30 in it for a
>>> while, and it leaked around the drain plug, but i switched to 10w30
>>> synthetic blend and that helped the dripping a lot. the side of the
>>> block is covered in old oil, and my mechanic friend thinks that the
>>> valve cover gasket is bad, which could explain that. but basically,
>>> im sick and tired of putting in another quart of oil every few weeks.
>>> has anyone else had this problem? i have a 94 ZJ w/ around 185,000
>>> miles. any ideas/ suggestions would be great.
>>>
>> Your mechanic may be smarter than most, or at least familiar with Jeeps.
>> With 185K it is possible you might have some other source of oil loss
>> but why not go with the easy fix and clean the block so you can see it.
>> The valve cover is infamous for leaking oil, somtimes made worse by
>> folks overtightening on the plastic style rather than putting on a new
>> cover and or gasket or some permatex.
>>
>
> You can buy a new drain plug gasket too. The place I bought my Wrangler
> from recommended changing it on every oil change. Maybe that's overkill,
> but it doesn't hurt to replace it now and then.
>
> Earle
>
>

Back when I worked in garages we replaced 'every' oil drain plug washer
when doing an oil change. The copper ones are crush sleeves that are
one use only ones. The newer nylon ones can maybe be used more than
once, but I even have a box of those here and replace mine.

$0.15 is really cheap insurance the oil will stay put.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: burning/leaking oil
 

sounds like good advice all around- ill try to scrounge up some money
to get a new valve cover gasket some time this week, and ill let you
folks know what happens. on my nonexistant salary, its hard enough to
buy gas to go to school, much less money for repairs. blew all my
money on my wreck last year.