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Lee Ayrton 07-29-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, El Maximo wrote:

> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0707281235520.27949@panix3.pani x.com...
>
>>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?

>>
>> You mean apart from individuals like us?

>
> Yes. Is anyone building brand new Jeeps in the US besides DC as a commercial
> venture?


Not CJs but MBs and GPWs:

http://www.olivedrabfever.com/

"This is where we come in. We build brand new war era jeeps from new old
stock, rebuilt and reproduction parts."



--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.


Jeff DeWitt 07-29-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Steve Foley wrote:
> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> Is anyone doing this?
>
>

Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

Jeff DeWitt 07-29-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Steve Foley wrote:
> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> Is anyone doing this?
>
>

Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

Jeff DeWitt 07-29-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Steve Foley wrote:
> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> Is anyone doing this?
>
>

Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

Jeff DeWitt 07-29-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Steve Foley wrote:
> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> Is anyone doing this?
>
>

Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

c 07-30-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Steve Foley wrote:
>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN
>> and shell.
>>
>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>
>> Is anyone doing this?
>>

> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
> Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>
> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314


LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.

Chris

c 07-30-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Steve Foley wrote:
>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN
>> and shell.
>>
>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>
>> Is anyone doing this?
>>

> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
> Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>
> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314


LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.

Chris

c 07-30-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Steve Foley wrote:
>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN
>> and shell.
>>
>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>
>> Is anyone doing this?
>>

> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
> Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>
> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314


LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.

Chris

c 07-30-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Steve Foley wrote:
>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN
>> and shell.
>>
>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>
>> Is anyone doing this?
>>

> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a
> Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>
> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314


LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.

Chris

RapidRonnie 07-30-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> RapidRonnie wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >> Steve Foley wrote:
> >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
> >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
> >>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
> >>> the VIN and shell.

>
> >>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
> >>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
> >>> others.

>
> >>> Is anyone doing this?

> > If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> > you can get all the items used.

>
> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.



Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
something like this.


RapidRonnie 07-30-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> RapidRonnie wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >> Steve Foley wrote:
> >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
> >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
> >>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
> >>> the VIN and shell.

>
> >>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
> >>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
> >>> others.

>
> >>> Is anyone doing this?

> > If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> > you can get all the items used.

>
> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.



Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
something like this.


RapidRonnie 07-30-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> RapidRonnie wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >> Steve Foley wrote:
> >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
> >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
> >>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
> >>> the VIN and shell.

>
> >>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
> >>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
> >>> others.

>
> >>> Is anyone doing this?

> > If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> > you can get all the items used.

>
> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.



Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
something like this.


RapidRonnie 07-30-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
> RapidRonnie wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >> Steve Foley wrote:
> >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
> >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
> >>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
> >>> the VIN and shell.

>
> >>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
> >>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
> >>> others.

>
> >>> Is anyone doing this?

> > If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> > you can get all the items used.

>
> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.



Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
something like this.


Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:46 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
c wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the
>>> VIN and shell.
>>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>>

>> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built
>> a Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>>
>> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

>
> LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
> irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
> wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
> show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.
>
> Chris


The guys OK but yes, Jessie is a doll... whoever her significant other
is he is a very lucky guy.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:46 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
c wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the
>>> VIN and shell.
>>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>>

>> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built
>> a Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>>
>> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

>
> LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
> irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
> wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
> show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.
>
> Chris


The guys OK but yes, Jessie is a doll... whoever her significant other
is he is a very lucky guy.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:46 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
c wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the
>>> VIN and shell.
>>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>>

>> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built
>> a Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>>
>> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

>
> LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
> irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
> wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
> show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.
>
> Chris


The guys OK but yes, Jessie is a doll... whoever her significant other
is he is a very lucky guy.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:46 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
c wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for
>>> them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the
>>> VIN and shell.
>>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>>

>> Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built
>> a Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ.
>>
>> http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314

>
> LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show
> irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also,
> wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the
> show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host.
>
> Chris


The guys OK but yes, Jessie is a doll... whoever her significant other
is he is a very lucky guy.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> RapidRonnie wrote:
>>> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>>>> the VIN and shell.
>>>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>>>> others.
>>>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
>>> you can get all the items used.

>> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
>> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
>> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.

>
>
> Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
> using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
> something like this.
>


Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!

But I agree, if such a kit is available for the vehicle your working on
by all means buy it, you won't regret it.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> RapidRonnie wrote:
>>> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>>>> the VIN and shell.
>>>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>>>> others.
>>>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
>>> you can get all the items used.

>> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
>> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
>> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.

>
>
> Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
> using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
> something like this.
>


Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!

But I agree, if such a kit is available for the vehicle your working on
by all means buy it, you won't regret it.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> RapidRonnie wrote:
>>> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>>>> the VIN and shell.
>>>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>>>> others.
>>>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
>>> you can get all the items used.

>> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
>> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
>> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.

>
>
> Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
> using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
> something like this.
>


Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!

But I agree, if such a kit is available for the vehicle your working on
by all means buy it, you won't regret it.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 07-30-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 6:06 pm, "DougW" <post.repl...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> RapidRonnie wrote:
>>> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>>>> the VIN and shell.
>>>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>>>> others.
>>>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
>>> you can get all the items used.

>> I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
>> rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
>> nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.

>
>
> Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact
> using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do
> something like this.
>


Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!

But I agree, if such a kit is available for the vehicle your working on
by all means buy it, you won't regret it.

Jeff DeWitt

XS11E 07-31-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!


So YOU'RE the guy, huh? I met up with your Studebaker pickup back in
1949 (?) or so. Result = arm broken in two places, broken collar bone
and cracked shoulder blade.

Next time I play destruction derby with a pickup, I probably shouldn't
be on foot?


--
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XS11E 07-31-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!


So YOU'RE the guy, huh? I met up with your Studebaker pickup back in
1949 (?) or so. Result = arm broken in two places, broken collar bone
and cracked shoulder blade.

Next time I play destruction derby with a pickup, I probably shouldn't
be on foot?


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 07-31-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!


So YOU'RE the guy, huh? I met up with your Studebaker pickup back in
1949 (?) or so. Result = arm broken in two places, broken collar bone
and cracked shoulder blade.

Next time I play destruction derby with a pickup, I probably shouldn't
be on foot?


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 07-31-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
 
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup!


So YOU'RE the guy, huh? I met up with your Studebaker pickup back in
1949 (?) or so. Result = arm broken in two places, broken collar bone
and cracked shoulder blade.

Next time I play destruction derby with a pickup, I probably shouldn't
be on foot?


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html


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