Broken Tork bolts
 

OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of my
93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really not
too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Drill them out and tap the holes. It is essential to get a good center when
you do this. Punch the broken bolt really carefully with a center punch,
and then drill a small pilot hole. If you have to, clean it up with a
dremel before punching. It is hard to put a good punch mark, in a surface
that is uneven or slanted. No trick, just hard work and being careful. It
might help to soak with penetrating oil. Sometimes, if you do this the
broken bolt will break loose when you get a drill bit in it. Don't count on
this though.

If you get impatient just blast a hole in it with a cutting torch, and put a
nut behind it. ;^)

Earle

"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IIOdnW0H08NPwlvenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
my
> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
not
> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> Thanks.
>
>

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Drill them out and tap the holes. It is essential to get a good center when
you do this. Punch the broken bolt really carefully with a center punch,
and then drill a small pilot hole. If you have to, clean it up with a
dremel before punching. It is hard to put a good punch mark, in a surface
that is uneven or slanted. No trick, just hard work and being careful. It
might help to soak with penetrating oil. Sometimes, if you do this the
broken bolt will break loose when you get a drill bit in it. Don't count on
this though.

If you get impatient just blast a hole in it with a cutting torch, and put a
nut behind it. ;^)

Earle

"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IIOdnW0H08NPwlvenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
my
> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
not
> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> Thanks.
>
>

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Drill them out and tap the holes. It is essential to get a good center when
you do this. Punch the broken bolt really carefully with a center punch,
and then drill a small pilot hole. If you have to, clean it up with a
dremel before punching. It is hard to put a good punch mark, in a surface
that is uneven or slanted. No trick, just hard work and being careful. It
might help to soak with penetrating oil. Sometimes, if you do this the
broken bolt will break loose when you get a drill bit in it. Don't count on
this though.

If you get impatient just blast a hole in it with a cutting torch, and put a
nut behind it. ;^)

Earle

"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IIOdnW0H08NPwlvenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
my
> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
not
> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> Thanks.
>
>

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Which ones snapped?

If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Lovs2fly wrote:
>
> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of my
> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really not
> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Which ones snapped?

If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Lovs2fly wrote:
>
> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of my
> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really not
> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Which ones snapped?

If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Lovs2fly wrote:
>
> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of my
> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really not
> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Broken bolts are two on the windshield brackets, and two on the passenger
seat bracket and one on the tailgate to body bracket.

Thanks for the help.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C66557.43229E08@sympatico.ca...
> Which ones snapped?
>
> If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lovs2fly wrote:
>>
>> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
>> my
>> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
>> not
>> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
>> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
>> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Broken bolts are two on the windshield brackets, and two on the passenger
seat bracket and one on the tailgate to body bracket.

Thanks for the help.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C66557.43229E08@sympatico.ca...
> Which ones snapped?
>
> If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lovs2fly wrote:
>>
>> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
>> my
>> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
>> not
>> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
>> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
>> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

Broken bolts are two on the windshield brackets, and two on the passenger
seat bracket and one on the tailgate to body bracket.

Thanks for the help.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C66557.43229E08@sympatico.ca...
> Which ones snapped?
>
> If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Lovs2fly wrote:
>>
>> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
>> my
>> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
>> not
>> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
>> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
>> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

The body side torx bolts for the windshield frame had glued on nuts so
they can just be punched through. Those are the two on the body side of
the door post. A little heat can also just make them fall off the
inside.

I soak the broken bolts first in the best penetrating oil I can find.
Just a note, WD40 isn't a good penetrant.

Other than that, I take a punch and make a mark, then run an 1/8" bit
down the bolt, then one larger after. I normally soak these in oil
while drilling. I try hard to run the small bit slightly 'off' center,
I don't want it centered at all.

Then when I run a larger bit down through the bolt, it will hopefully
slightly tag the threads on one side of the bolt. This leaves a quarter
moon shaped chunk of metal in the hole that usually will just spin right
out.

Depending on how close I made the small hole, I used a 3/16" or a 1/4"
or a 5/16" bit for the 3/8" body bolts. Which ever one I think will
'just' skin the threads on the one side, but usually the 1/4" one is
right.

I have had very good luck using the above method on rust snapped bolts
and have seldom damaged the threads beyond re-use. I do use a thread
sealer like loctite on the new bolts to stop future rust.

Mike

Lovs2fly wrote:
>
> Broken bolts are two on the windshield brackets, and two on the passenger
> seat bracket and one on the tailgate to body bracket.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C66557.43229E08@sympatico.ca...
> > Which ones snapped?
> >
> > If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Lovs2fly wrote:
> >>
> >> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
> >> my
> >> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
> >> not
> >> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> >> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> >> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

The body side torx bolts for the windshield frame had glued on nuts so
they can just be punched through. Those are the two on the body side of
the door post. A little heat can also just make them fall off the
inside.

I soak the broken bolts first in the best penetrating oil I can find.
Just a note, WD40 isn't a good penetrant.

Other than that, I take a punch and make a mark, then run an 1/8" bit
down the bolt, then one larger after. I normally soak these in oil
while drilling. I try hard to run the small bit slightly 'off' center,
I don't want it centered at all.

Then when I run a larger bit down through the bolt, it will hopefully
slightly tag the threads on one side of the bolt. This leaves a quarter
moon shaped chunk of metal in the hole that usually will just spin right
out.

Depending on how close I made the small hole, I used a 3/16" or a 1/4"
or a 5/16" bit for the 3/8" body bolts. Which ever one I think will
'just' skin the threads on the one side, but usually the 1/4" one is
right.

I have had very good luck using the above method on rust snapped bolts
and have seldom damaged the threads beyond re-use. I do use a thread
sealer like loctite on the new bolts to stop future rust.

Mike

Lovs2fly wrote:
>
> Broken bolts are two on the windshield brackets, and two on the passenger
> seat bracket and one on the tailgate to body bracket.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C66557.43229E08@sympatico.ca...
> > Which ones snapped?
> >
> > If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Lovs2fly wrote:
> >>
> >> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
> >> my
> >> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
> >> not
> >> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> >> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> >> Thanks.

Re: Broken Tork bolts
 

The body side torx bolts for the windshield frame had glued on nuts so
they can just be punched through. Those are the two on the body side of
the door post. A little heat can also just make them fall off the
inside.

I soak the broken bolts first in the best penetrating oil I can find.
Just a note, WD40 isn't a good penetrant.

Other than that, I take a punch and make a mark, then run an 1/8" bit
down the bolt, then one larger after. I normally soak these in oil
while drilling. I try hard to run the small bit slightly 'off' center,
I don't want it centered at all.

Then when I run a larger bit down through the bolt, it will hopefully
slightly tag the threads on one side of the bolt. This leaves a quarter
moon shaped chunk of metal in the hole that usually will just spin right
out.

Depending on how close I made the small hole, I used a 3/16" or a 1/4"
or a 5/16" bit for the 3/8" body bolts. Which ever one I think will
'just' skin the threads on the one side, but usually the 1/4" one is
right.

I have had very good luck using the above method on rust snapped bolts
and have seldom damaged the threads beyond re-use. I do use a thread
sealer like loctite on the new bolts to stop future rust.

Mike

Lovs2fly wrote:
>
> Broken bolts are two on the windshield brackets, and two on the passenger
> seat bracket and one on the tailgate to body bracket.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C66557.43229E08@sympatico.ca...
> > Which ones snapped?
> >
> > If you are specific, there are tricks for some of them.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Lovs2fly wrote:
> >>
> >> OK those damm tork bolts are at it again. I'm in the mist of a rebuild of
> >> my
> >> 93 wrangler and have broken the heads off a number of tork bolts. Really
> >> not
> >> too bad out of the roughly 30 if have freed only 4 broke ott. They have
> >> broken clean to the body. Any trick or suggestions.
> >> Thanks.