Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

"wendy" <wlevand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you for such a nice and honest response. And for the concern. I
> really appreciate that.
> Spdloader wrote:
>> Wendy.


You're welcome!

Spdloader

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

"wendy" <wlevand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165023909.245420.215480@j44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank you for such a nice and honest response. And for the concern. I
> really appreciate that.
> Spdloader wrote:
>> Wendy.


You're welcome!

Spdloader

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

not much can help you when some ------- on a fone nails you in the rear at55
unless you are in a tank bad things happen to good people

wendy wrote:

> They did do that but now I have major spinal column issues. I just
> would like to know if the safety laws say anything about seat breaking
> in accidents. But thank you for the response.
> Steve Foley wrote:
> > "wendy" <wlevand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1164911825.117348.41160@16g2000cwy.googlegrou ps.com...
> > >I was recently rearended. I was stopped they hit me going 55 mph.
> > > They did not total the jeep but the damages were around $14,000.
> > > However, my air bag did not go off, maybe because of being rearended,
> > > but my seat also broke. So after I was flung forward, when I went to
> > > fall back there was no seat to catch me. Does anyone know the law on
> > > seats during accidents? Thank you
> > >
> >
> > The insurance company should fix the broken seat.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

not much can help you when some ------- on a fone nails you in the rear at55
unless you are in a tank bad things happen to good people

wendy wrote:

> They did do that but now I have major spinal column issues. I just
> would like to know if the safety laws say anything about seat breaking
> in accidents. But thank you for the response.
> Steve Foley wrote:
> > "wendy" <wlevand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1164911825.117348.41160@16g2000cwy.googlegrou ps.com...
> > >I was recently rearended. I was stopped they hit me going 55 mph.
> > > They did not total the jeep but the damages were around $14,000.
> > > However, my air bag did not go off, maybe because of being rearended,
> > > but my seat also broke. So after I was flung forward, when I went to
> > > fall back there was no seat to catch me. Does anyone know the law on
> > > seats during accidents? Thank you
> > >
> >
> > The insurance company should fix the broken seat.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

not much can help you when some ------- on a fone nails you in the rear at55
unless you are in a tank bad things happen to good people

wendy wrote:

> They did do that but now I have major spinal column issues. I just
> would like to know if the safety laws say anything about seat breaking
> in accidents. But thank you for the response.
> Steve Foley wrote:
> > "wendy" <wlevand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1164911825.117348.41160@16g2000cwy.googlegrou ps.com...
> > >I was recently rearended. I was stopped they hit me going 55 mph.
> > > They did not total the jeep but the damages were around $14,000.
> > > However, my air bag did not go off, maybe because of being rearended,
> > > but my seat also broke. So after I was flung forward, when I went to
> > > fall back there was no seat to catch me. Does anyone know the law on
> > > seats during accidents? Thank you
> > >
> >
> > The insurance company should fix the broken seat.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

The "designed to break to prevent injury" part doesn't sound quite right.
Reclining in the seat defeats the restraint system and can allow you to
slip out of the belts, collide with structural members or be ejected.
The seat back and head rest are supposed to cradle your head, neck and
torso to keep them in alignment to prevent bone and connective tissue
injury. Lastly, a seat back that fails will dump the seat occupant --
plus inertial forces -- on the passenger sitting behind that position. A
random Google search turned up considerable anectodal evidence that rear
seat passengers, including properly restrained children, have been killed
by this type of failure.

I didn't read throughly but it appeared to me that the National Highway
Traffic Safety Adminstration has design standards that specify the minimum
failure specs for head restraints and seat backs. The search results were
muddied by a plethora of personal injury lawyer sites.

This site is anecdotal as all getout: http://www.motorpits.com/c/340225/
But it claims that the complainant was told by a body shop that "seat
failure is not uncommon" in ordinary use.


On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Micah wrote:

> My stepdad got rear-ended in his Cherokee a couple years ago by a guy
> going around 45. I'll have to ask him about it to refresh my memory,
> but his seat broke as well, and I *think* he found out later that the
> seats are actually designed to break at a certain point to keep it from
> being your neck that breaks. I'm really not sure on that one, almost
> hate posting that...
>
> At any rate, if you can design ANYTHING that will withstand the
> onslaught of a couple tons of steel moving at 55 mph... I will give you
> all the money out of my wallet (not really). I'm going to go ahead and
> vote with the crowd on this one, be thankful that it was your seat that
> broke, and not your neck. No auto manufacturer in the world can boast
> that its cars will keep your back from hurting after you get rear-ended
> at 55. Seems to me it'd be kind of like getting in a fender-bender,
> then suing the car company because their sheet metal was "faulty"
> because it bent out of shape. Something's gotta give.
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

The "designed to break to prevent injury" part doesn't sound quite right.
Reclining in the seat defeats the restraint system and can allow you to
slip out of the belts, collide with structural members or be ejected.
The seat back and head rest are supposed to cradle your head, neck and
torso to keep them in alignment to prevent bone and connective tissue
injury. Lastly, a seat back that fails will dump the seat occupant --
plus inertial forces -- on the passenger sitting behind that position. A
random Google search turned up considerable anectodal evidence that rear
seat passengers, including properly restrained children, have been killed
by this type of failure.

I didn't read throughly but it appeared to me that the National Highway
Traffic Safety Adminstration has design standards that specify the minimum
failure specs for head restraints and seat backs. The search results were
muddied by a plethora of personal injury lawyer sites.

This site is anecdotal as all getout: http://www.motorpits.com/c/340225/
But it claims that the complainant was told by a body shop that "seat
failure is not uncommon" in ordinary use.


On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Micah wrote:

> My stepdad got rear-ended in his Cherokee a couple years ago by a guy
> going around 45. I'll have to ask him about it to refresh my memory,
> but his seat broke as well, and I *think* he found out later that the
> seats are actually designed to break at a certain point to keep it from
> being your neck that breaks. I'm really not sure on that one, almost
> hate posting that...
>
> At any rate, if you can design ANYTHING that will withstand the
> onslaught of a couple tons of steel moving at 55 mph... I will give you
> all the money out of my wallet (not really). I'm going to go ahead and
> vote with the crowd on this one, be thankful that it was your seat that
> broke, and not your neck. No auto manufacturer in the world can boast
> that its cars will keep your back from hurting after you get rear-ended
> at 55. Seems to me it'd be kind of like getting in a fender-bender,
> then suing the car company because their sheet metal was "faulty"
> because it bent out of shape. Something's gotta give.
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

The "designed to break to prevent injury" part doesn't sound quite right.
Reclining in the seat defeats the restraint system and can allow you to
slip out of the belts, collide with structural members or be ejected.
The seat back and head rest are supposed to cradle your head, neck and
torso to keep them in alignment to prevent bone and connective tissue
injury. Lastly, a seat back that fails will dump the seat occupant --
plus inertial forces -- on the passenger sitting behind that position. A
random Google search turned up considerable anectodal evidence that rear
seat passengers, including properly restrained children, have been killed
by this type of failure.

I didn't read throughly but it appeared to me that the National Highway
Traffic Safety Adminstration has design standards that specify the minimum
failure specs for head restraints and seat backs. The search results were
muddied by a plethora of personal injury lawyer sites.

This site is anecdotal as all getout: http://www.motorpits.com/c/340225/
But it claims that the complainant was told by a body shop that "seat
failure is not uncommon" in ordinary use.


On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Micah wrote:

> My stepdad got rear-ended in his Cherokee a couple years ago by a guy
> going around 45. I'll have to ask him about it to refresh my memory,
> but his seat broke as well, and I *think* he found out later that the
> seats are actually designed to break at a certain point to keep it from
> being your neck that breaks. I'm really not sure on that one, almost
> hate posting that...
>
> At any rate, if you can design ANYTHING that will withstand the
> onslaught of a couple tons of steel moving at 55 mph... I will give you
> all the money out of my wallet (not really). I'm going to go ahead and
> vote with the crowd on this one, be thankful that it was your seat that
> broke, and not your neck. No auto manufacturer in the world can boast
> that its cars will keep your back from hurting after you get rear-ended
> at 55. Seems to me it'd be kind of like getting in a fender-bender,
> then suing the car company because their sheet metal was "faulty"
> because it bent out of shape. Something's gotta give.
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

I am a bit curious about how your Cherokee could sustain a 55 MPH
collision and /not/ be totaled.

Your airbag is designed to go off on frontal impact to gradually slow your
travel forward. It would have no use on a rear-end collision.


On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, wendy wrote:

> I was recently rearended. I was stopped they hit me going 55 mph.
> They did not total the jeep but the damages were around $14,000.
> However, my air bag did not go off, maybe because of being rearended,
> but my seat also broke. So after I was flung forward, when I went to
> fall back there was no seat to catch me. Does anyone know the law on
> seats during accidents? Thank you
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: Broken seats on Jeep GC
 

I am a bit curious about how your Cherokee could sustain a 55 MPH
collision and /not/ be totaled.

Your airbag is designed to go off on frontal impact to gradually slow your
travel forward. It would have no use on a rear-end collision.


On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, wendy wrote:

> I was recently rearended. I was stopped they hit me going 55 mph.
> They did not total the jeep but the damages were around $14,000.
> However, my air bag did not go off, maybe because of being rearended,
> but my seat also broke. So after I was flung forward, when I went to
> fall back there was no seat to catch me. Does anyone know the law on
> seats during accidents? Thank you
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.