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James Nipper 07-21-2004 10:40 PM

Brake Squeaks ??
 


Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
work fine.

Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
front). The braking in general is fine.

Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.

Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
the stopping power seems good, and even.

It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
problem.


Questions:

What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?


I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?

Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!


--James--



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-22-2004 01:53 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
The squeak is probably normal for the grade of pad you have, you
may see the difference in materials Raybestos sells:
http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm The cheaper pads usually have
a silicone like stuff to paste to the back side of their pads to dampen
them or just a paper spacer. Your brakes should have had a little spring
thingie pictured: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg stock from the
factory that many of us just forget, that it's only purpose is to stop
squeal. What I have done to stop squeal is take the pads out and scrap
them on the drive way at about forty five degrees on the lead edge,
that's low side, and that stops it. I've never heard of brake shoes
squealing, just a sanding sound or metal to metal sound if they've
thrown a shoe. Might give them a quick inspection.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-22-2004 01:53 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
The squeak is probably normal for the grade of pad you have, you
may see the difference in materials Raybestos sells:
http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm The cheaper pads usually have
a silicone like stuff to paste to the back side of their pads to dampen
them or just a paper spacer. Your brakes should have had a little spring
thingie pictured: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg stock from the
factory that many of us just forget, that it's only purpose is to stop
squeal. What I have done to stop squeal is take the pads out and scrap
them on the drive way at about forty five degrees on the lead edge,
that's low side, and that stops it. I've never heard of brake shoes
squealing, just a sanding sound or metal to metal sound if they've
thrown a shoe. Might give them a quick inspection.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-22-2004 01:53 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
The squeak is probably normal for the grade of pad you have, you
may see the difference in materials Raybestos sells:
http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm The cheaper pads usually have
a silicone like stuff to paste to the back side of their pads to dampen
them or just a paper spacer. Your brakes should have had a little spring
thingie pictured: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg stock from the
factory that many of us just forget, that it's only purpose is to stop
squeal. What I have done to stop squeal is take the pads out and scrap
them on the drive way at about forty five degrees on the lead edge,
that's low side, and that stops it. I've never heard of brake shoes
squealing, just a sanding sound or metal to metal sound if they've
thrown a shoe. Might give them a quick inspection.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-22-2004 01:53 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
The squeak is probably normal for the grade of pad you have, you
may see the difference in materials Raybestos sells:
http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm The cheaper pads usually have
a silicone like stuff to paste to the back side of their pads to dampen
them or just a paper spacer. Your brakes should have had a little spring
thingie pictured: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg stock from the
factory that many of us just forget, that it's only purpose is to stop
squeal. What I have done to stop squeal is take the pads out and scrap
them on the drive way at about forty five degrees on the lead edge,
that's low side, and that stops it. I've never heard of brake shoes
squealing, just a sanding sound or metal to metal sound if they've
thrown a shoe. Might give them a quick inspection.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-24-2004 02:32 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
Sounds like if you rebuild the piston and lube the slide like Doug
suggested you'll be find. You know there will always be a drag with that
type of caliber. Drag racers need that horse power so convert to the two
piston or the four piston '68 Mustang calibers:
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg Ask your local speed shop
for installation instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-24-2004 02:32 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
Sounds like if you rebuild the piston and lube the slide like Doug
suggested you'll be find. You know there will always be a drag with that
type of caliber. Drag racers need that horse power so convert to the two
piston or the four piston '68 Mustang calibers:
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg Ask your local speed shop
for installation instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-24-2004 02:32 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
Sounds like if you rebuild the piston and lube the slide like Doug
suggested you'll be find. You know there will always be a drag with that
type of caliber. Drag racers need that horse power so convert to the two
piston or the four piston '68 Mustang calibers:
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg Ask your local speed shop
for installation instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-24-2004 02:32 AM

Re: Brake Squeaks ??
 
Hi James,
Sounds like if you rebuild the piston and lube the slide like Doug
suggested you'll be find. You know there will always be a drag with that
type of caliber. Drag racers need that horse power so convert to the two
piston or the four piston '68 Mustang calibers:
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg Ask your local speed shop
for installation instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
http://www.----------.com/68MustangCaliber.jpg

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Just had front brakes re-done, with new ceramic pads and turned rotors. They
> work fine.
>
> Rear brakes were done about 15k ago, and they seem to work fine. (My
> understanding and experience is the rear brakes last much longer than the
> front). The braking in general is fine.
>
> Now, I am on an extended vacation, and my brakes squeak when I depress the
> brake pedal. When I press down very hard (hard braking) the squeak goes
> away. I cannot tell if the sound comes from the front or rear.
>
> Again, my brakes seem to be working fine, with no pulling either way, and
> the stopping power seems good, and even.
>
> It will be several weeks before I will be back home, and could take the car
> to my regular mechanic, who always does a good job for me. Yet, I am am
> curious if I should have a stranger check my brakes to see if there is a
> problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> What is the likely culprit causing the squeak?
>
> I have heard of "brake dressing." What is it, and when is it needed ?
>
> Thanks for any helpful comments !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --James--



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