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Phil Boeye 12-13-2003 07:41 PM

Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
screws?

DougW 12-13-2003 08:29 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Phil Boeye did pass the time by typing:
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Nope, as long as you don't suck air into the ABS servos.
Just keep an eye on the brake fluid level.

--
DougW



DougW 12-13-2003 08:29 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Phil Boeye did pass the time by typing:
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Nope, as long as you don't suck air into the ABS servos.
Just keep an eye on the brake fluid level.

--
DougW



DougW 12-13-2003 08:29 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Phil Boeye did pass the time by typing:
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Nope, as long as you don't suck air into the ABS servos.
Just keep an eye on the brake fluid level.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-13-2003 09:50 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Hi Phil,
Ignition off, then depressurize the ABS accumulator. This is done
by pressing down on the brake pedal HARD, 30 times:
http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Te...bs_brakes.html
Then bleed normally.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Phil Boeye wrote:
>
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-13-2003 09:50 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Hi Phil,
Ignition off, then depressurize the ABS accumulator. This is done
by pressing down on the brake pedal HARD, 30 times:
http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Te...bs_brakes.html
Then bleed normally.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Phil Boeye wrote:
>
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-13-2003 09:50 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Hi Phil,
Ignition off, then depressurize the ABS accumulator. This is done
by pressing down on the brake pedal HARD, 30 times:
http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Te...bs_brakes.html
Then bleed normally.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Phil Boeye wrote:
>
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Del Rawlins 12-14-2003 03:46 AM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
On 13 Dec 2003 03:41 PM, Phil Boeye posted the following:
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Definitely follow the bleeding procedure in the manual. Many ABS
equipped vehicles require a different bleeding sequence than non ABS
rigs.

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Del Rawlins 12-14-2003 03:46 AM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
On 13 Dec 2003 03:41 PM, Phil Boeye posted the following:
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Definitely follow the bleeding procedure in the manual. Many ABS
equipped vehicles require a different bleeding sequence than non ABS
rigs.

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Del Rawlins 12-14-2003 03:46 AM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
On 13 Dec 2003 03:41 PM, Phil Boeye posted the following:
> Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
> ('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
> this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
> screws?


Definitely follow the bleeding procedure in the manual. Many ABS
equipped vehicles require a different bleeding sequence than non ABS
rigs.

----------------------------------------------------
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Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 06:02 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
In article <3FDBCFFA.988C6C1A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> Ignition off, then depressurize the ABS accumulator. This is done
>by pressing down on the brake pedal HARD, 30 times:


Bill,

Try reading the links you post.

matt


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 06:02 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
In article <3FDBCFFA.988C6C1A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> Ignition off, then depressurize the ABS accumulator. This is done
>by pressing down on the brake pedal HARD, 30 times:


Bill,

Try reading the links you post.

matt


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 06:02 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
In article <3FDBCFFA.988C6C1A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> Ignition off, then depressurize the ABS accumulator. This is done
>by pressing down on the brake pedal HARD, 30 times:


Bill,

Try reading the links you post.

matt


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-14-2003 06:11 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Poster wrote:
"Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
screws?"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Try reading the links you post.
>
> matt
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-14-2003 06:11 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Poster wrote:
"Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
screws?"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Try reading the links you post.
>
> matt
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-14-2003 06:11 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Poster wrote:
"Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
screws?"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Try reading the links you post.
>
> matt
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 07:39 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Since I don't know what is mentioned about the scan tool in a '96 XJ manual, I
don't know if it's necessary. I was referring to what you said:

In article <3FDBCFFA.988C6C1A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Then bleed normally.


because bleeding ABS brakes is much more involved than non-ABS brakes, as your
link shows.

In article <3FDCEE25.4370ADA0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Poster wrote:
> "Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
>('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
>this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
>screws?"
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Try reading the links you post.
>>
>> matt
>>
>> * * *
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> www.townpeddler.com
>> www.wolverine4wd.org



* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 07:39 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Since I don't know what is mentioned about the scan tool in a '96 XJ manual, I
don't know if it's necessary. I was referring to what you said:

In article <3FDBCFFA.988C6C1A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Then bleed normally.


because bleeding ABS brakes is much more involved than non-ABS brakes, as your
link shows.

In article <3FDCEE25.4370ADA0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Poster wrote:
> "Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
>('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
>this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
>screws?"
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Try reading the links you post.
>>
>> matt
>>
>> * * *
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> www.townpeddler.com
>> www.wolverine4wd.org



* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 07:39 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Since I don't know what is mentioned about the scan tool in a '96 XJ manual, I
don't know if it's necessary. I was referring to what you said:

In article <3FDBCFFA.988C6C1A@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Then bleed normally.


because bleeding ABS brakes is much more involved than non-ABS brakes, as your
link shows.

In article <3FDCEE25.4370ADA0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Poster wrote:
> "Any special thing I should know about bleeding my ABS-equipped XJ
>('96)? The factory manual mentions something about the scan tool. Is
>this necessary for a simple flush of the brake system via bleeder
>screws?"
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Try reading the links you post.
>>
>> matt
>>
>> * * *
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> www.townpeddler.com
>> www.wolverine4wd.org



* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-14-2003 07:53 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Matt, that was taken out of context, I also explained how to open the
accumulator's reservoir to the master's in simple terms. So that Poster
didn't need to open the valves via tool. Just like a service station
would replace a caliber.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Since I don't know what is mentioned about the scan tool in a '96 XJ manual, I
> don't know if it's necessary. I was referring to what you said: "Then bleed normally."
>
> because bleeding ABS brakes is much more involved than non-ABS brakes, as your
> link shows.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-14-2003 07:53 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Matt, that was taken out of context, I also explained how to open the
accumulator's reservoir to the master's in simple terms. So that Poster
didn't need to open the valves via tool. Just like a service station
would replace a caliber.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Since I don't know what is mentioned about the scan tool in a '96 XJ manual, I
> don't know if it's necessary. I was referring to what you said: "Then bleed normally."
>
> because bleeding ABS brakes is much more involved than non-ABS brakes, as your
> link shows.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-14-2003 07:53 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Matt, that was taken out of context, I also explained how to open the
accumulator's reservoir to the master's in simple terms. So that Poster
didn't need to open the valves via tool. Just like a service station
would replace a caliber.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Since I don't know what is mentioned about the scan tool in a '96 XJ manual, I
> don't know if it's necessary. I was referring to what you said: "Then bleed normally."
>
> because bleeding ABS brakes is much more involved than non-ABS brakes, as your
> link shows.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 10:02 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
In article <3FDD05EC.83DFE320@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Matt, that was taken out of context, I also explained how to open the
>accumulator's reservoir to the master's in simple terms. So that Poster
>didn't need to open the valves via tool. Just like a service station
>would replace a caliber.


(sigh). I hope you don't get him killed when his ABS pump fills with air.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 10:02 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
In article <3FDD05EC.83DFE320@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Matt, that was taken out of context, I also explained how to open the
>accumulator's reservoir to the master's in simple terms. So that Poster
>didn't need to open the valves via tool. Just like a service station
>would replace a caliber.


(sigh). I hope you don't get him killed when his ABS pump fills with air.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-14-2003 10:02 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
In article <3FDD05EC.83DFE320@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

>Matt, that was taken out of context, I also explained how to open the
>accumulator's reservoir to the master's in simple terms. So that Poster
>didn't need to open the valves via tool. Just like a service station
>would replace a caliber.


(sigh). I hope you don't get him killed when his ABS pump fills with air.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





DougW 12-14-2003 10:17 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
<snip>

Ok.. I've stayed out of this thread for a while but this is getting sad.

Providing you do not let the reservoir go dry, bleeding brakes on an ABS
equipped vehicle is no different that a regular setup. The problem occurs
if you get air into the solenoids. Your not going to get 100% of the fluid
out, but you will get most of it.

I've done it dozens of times without any problems. Both by having
someone press the brakes and by using a vacuum bleeder.

The key is to take your time and not let the reservoir run dry.

--
DougW



DougW 12-14-2003 10:17 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
<snip>

Ok.. I've stayed out of this thread for a while but this is getting sad.

Providing you do not let the reservoir go dry, bleeding brakes on an ABS
equipped vehicle is no different that a regular setup. The problem occurs
if you get air into the solenoids. Your not going to get 100% of the fluid
out, but you will get most of it.

I've done it dozens of times without any problems. Both by having
someone press the brakes and by using a vacuum bleeder.

The key is to take your time and not let the reservoir run dry.

--
DougW



DougW 12-14-2003 10:17 PM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
<snip>

Ok.. I've stayed out of this thread for a while but this is getting sad.

Providing you do not let the reservoir go dry, bleeding brakes on an ABS
equipped vehicle is no different that a regular setup. The problem occurs
if you get air into the solenoids. Your not going to get 100% of the fluid
out, but you will get most of it.

I've done it dozens of times without any problems. Both by having
someone press the brakes and by using a vacuum bleeder.

The key is to take your time and not let the reservoir run dry.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-15-2003 12:59 AM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Agreed, the most important part is don't let the reservoir go dry
as the page I posted said.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Ok.. I've stayed out of this thread for a while but this is getting sad.
>
> Providing you do not let the reservoir go dry, bleeding brakes on an ABS
> equipped vehicle is no different that a regular setup. The problem occurs
> if you get air into the solenoids. Your not going to get 100% of the fluid
> out, but you will get most of it.
>
> I've done it dozens of times without any problems. Both by having
> someone press the brakes and by using a vacuum bleeder.
>
> The key is to take your time and not let the reservoir run dry.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-15-2003 12:59 AM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Agreed, the most important part is don't let the reservoir go dry
as the page I posted said.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Ok.. I've stayed out of this thread for a while but this is getting sad.
>
> Providing you do not let the reservoir go dry, bleeding brakes on an ABS
> equipped vehicle is no different that a regular setup. The problem occurs
> if you get air into the solenoids. Your not going to get 100% of the fluid
> out, but you will get most of it.
>
> I've done it dozens of times without any problems. Both by having
> someone press the brakes and by using a vacuum bleeder.
>
> The key is to take your time and not let the reservoir run dry.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-15-2003 12:59 AM

Re: Brake bleeding - '96 XJ w/ ABS
 
Agreed, the most important part is don't let the reservoir go dry
as the page I posted said.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Ok.. I've stayed out of this thread for a while but this is getting sad.
>
> Providing you do not let the reservoir go dry, bleeding brakes on an ABS
> equipped vehicle is no different that a regular setup. The problem occurs
> if you get air into the solenoids. Your not going to get 100% of the fluid
> out, but you will get most of it.
>
> I've done it dozens of times without any problems. Both by having
> someone press the brakes and by using a vacuum bleeder.
>
> The key is to take your time and not let the reservoir run dry.
>
> --
> DougW



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