Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

That's what keeps guys like me in business, the fact that most people don't
want to make their own repairs. Get the checkbook out..

Jerry


"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0404231118030.27272@panix1.pani x.com...
>
> Sounds OK from where I sit. That's about 5 hours of shop time at $70/hr.
> But I don't bend wrenches for a living, either.
>
> I just asked my local 4WD shop/bone yard for an estimate on replacing my
> cracked exhaust manifold on my `89 Cherokee's 4.0 (I looked at it and
> thought "Ohhh, I don't want to do this.") The reply was "Last time I did
> one I swore I'd never do another -- I lose money on them." I was OK with
> that, I like an honest answer.
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, George J. McFadden wrote:
>
> > My exhaust manifold is cracked (badly) and needs replacement. The basic
> > estimate is for around $800. $425ish for the header, the rest for
> > install.
> >
> > I think this is high. What do you think?
> >
> > TIA,
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> >

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
or minus $30 or so.



On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Mike Romain wrote:

> I was just quoted $400.00 for a replacement manifold on our 88.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Sounds OK from where I sit. That's about 5 hours of shop time at $70/hr.
> > But I don't bend wrenches for a living, either.
> >
> > I just asked my local 4WD shop/bone yard for an estimate on replacing my
> > cracked exhaust manifold on my `89 Cherokee's 4.0 (I looked at it and
> > thought "Ohhh, I don't want to do this.") The reply was "Last time I did
> > one I swore I'd never do another -- I lose money on them." I was OK with
> > that, I like an honest answer.
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, George J. McFadden wrote:
> >
> > > My exhaust manifold is cracked (badly) and needs replacement. The basic
> > > estimate is for around $800. $425ish for the header, the rest for
> > > install.
> > >
> > > I think this is high. What do you think?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > George
> > > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > >
>

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
or minus $30 or so.



On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Mike Romain wrote:

> I was just quoted $400.00 for a replacement manifold on our 88.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Sounds OK from where I sit. That's about 5 hours of shop time at $70/hr.
> > But I don't bend wrenches for a living, either.
> >
> > I just asked my local 4WD shop/bone yard for an estimate on replacing my
> > cracked exhaust manifold on my `89 Cherokee's 4.0 (I looked at it and
> > thought "Ohhh, I don't want to do this.") The reply was "Last time I did
> > one I swore I'd never do another -- I lose money on them." I was OK with
> > that, I like an honest answer.
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, George J. McFadden wrote:
> >
> > > My exhaust manifold is cracked (badly) and needs replacement. The basic
> > > estimate is for around $800. $425ish for the header, the rest for
> > > install.
> > >
> > > I think this is high. What do you think?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > George
> > > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > >
>

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
or minus $30 or so.



On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Mike Romain wrote:

> I was just quoted $400.00 for a replacement manifold on our 88.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Sounds OK from where I sit. That's about 5 hours of shop time at $70/hr.
> > But I don't bend wrenches for a living, either.
> >
> > I just asked my local 4WD shop/bone yard for an estimate on replacing my
> > cracked exhaust manifold on my `89 Cherokee's 4.0 (I looked at it and
> > thought "Ohhh, I don't want to do this.") The reply was "Last time I did
> > one I swore I'd never do another -- I lose money on them." I was OK with
> > that, I like an honest answer.
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, George J. McFadden wrote:
> >
> > > My exhaust manifold is cracked (badly) and needs replacement. The basic
> > > estimate is for around $800. $425ish for the header, the rest for
> > > install.
> > >
> > > I think this is high. What do you think?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > George
> > > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > >
>

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
or minus $30 or so.



On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Mike Romain wrote:

> I was just quoted $400.00 for a replacement manifold on our 88.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Sounds OK from where I sit. That's about 5 hours of shop time at $70/hr.
> > But I don't bend wrenches for a living, either.
> >
> > I just asked my local 4WD shop/bone yard for an estimate on replacing my
> > cracked exhaust manifold on my `89 Cherokee's 4.0 (I looked at it and
> > thought "Ohhh, I don't want to do this.") The reply was "Last time I did
> > one I swore I'd never do another -- I lose money on them." I was OK with
> > that, I like an honest answer.
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, George J. McFadden wrote:
> >
> > > My exhaust manifold is cracked (badly) and needs replacement. The basic
> > > estimate is for around $800. $425ish for the header, the rest for
> > > install.
> > >
> > > I think this is high. What do you think?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > George
> > > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > >
>

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

Great, are you then going to eat them there or take it home?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
> for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
> or minus $30 or so.

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

Great, are you then going to eat them there or take it home?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
> for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
> or minus $30 or so.

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

Great, are you then going to eat them there or take it home?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
> for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
> or minus $30 or so.

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

Great, are you then going to eat them there or take it home?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
> for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
> or minus $30 or so.

Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
 

I checked with some other shops and a sample of the quotes are $600
(local shop), $675 Mineke, $760+tax Midas, $800 Hi Tech 4x4.

I called back to Hi Tech and asked how long (labor hrs) they were
quoting - they said 5.5hrs. I told them I have been seeing a 4hr labor
in my searching and told them that if they keep it to 4 hrs I would go
for it ($68/hr rate) - should end up to be around $730-$750.

Son of a Diddly! these things are expensive. The other diff is that the
three cheaper places were for a direct replacement manifold, and the Hi
Tech was for a Borla.

I think I am going to quit my IT job and become a mechanic!! ;-)

George
90 Wrangler 4.2L
98 Ram 1500 5.9L
00 SV650

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> For the part? That's curious. The guy I was talking to quoted me US$190
> for the manifold. A local discount retailer quote me about the same, plus
> or minus $30 or so.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I was just quoted $400.00 for a replacement manifold on our 88.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds OK from where I sit. That's about 5 hours of shop time at $70/hr.
> > > But I don't bend wrenches for a living, either.
> > >
> > > I just asked my local 4WD shop/bone yard for an estimate on replacing my
> > > cracked exhaust manifold on my `89 Cherokee's 4.0 (I looked at it and
> > > thought "Ohhh, I don't want to do this.") The reply was "Last time I did
> > > one I swore I'd never do another -- I lose money on them." I was OK with
> > > that, I like an honest answer.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, George J. McFadden wrote:
> > >
> > > > My exhaust manifold is cracked (badly) and needs replacement. The basic
> > > > estimate is for around $800. $425ish for the header, the rest for
> > > > install.
> > > >
> > > > I think this is high. What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > > George
> > > > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > > >
> >