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TW 04-08-2004 06:46 AM

Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Hi All,

Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120 kms
away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp and
stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started moving again
I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing noticeable.
I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise was
heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and the
noise is definitely from the back.

Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before fully
releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than that.
I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any kind of
oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating on?

Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote for an
Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting in the
next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have asked the
guy at the shop.

Thanks
TW


mabar 04-08-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have the Trac-Loc rear differential? Crawl under the TJ and look for
a small metal tag on the differential saying "limited slip additive
required."

If so, it is a limited slip design with clutch packs that can sometimes bind
slightly if the rear fluid has not been changed in a long time. Fluid should
be changed every 30000 miles or so.

Most brands of differential fluid already contain the additive, but if not,
you can buy a small bottle of the additive at most auto parts stores.

Tom

If so, change the rear differential fluid.
"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120 kms
> away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp and
> stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started moving

again
> I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
> accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing noticeable.
> I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise was
> heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and the
> noise is definitely from the back.
>
> Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before fully
> releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than that.
> I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any kind

of
> oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
> rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating on?
>
> Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote for

an
> Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting in

the
> next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have asked the
> guy at the shop.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>




mabar 04-08-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have the Trac-Loc rear differential? Crawl under the TJ and look for
a small metal tag on the differential saying "limited slip additive
required."

If so, it is a limited slip design with clutch packs that can sometimes bind
slightly if the rear fluid has not been changed in a long time. Fluid should
be changed every 30000 miles or so.

Most brands of differential fluid already contain the additive, but if not,
you can buy a small bottle of the additive at most auto parts stores.

Tom

If so, change the rear differential fluid.
"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120 kms
> away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp and
> stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started moving

again
> I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
> accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing noticeable.
> I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise was
> heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and the
> noise is definitely from the back.
>
> Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before fully
> releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than that.
> I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any kind

of
> oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
> rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating on?
>
> Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote for

an
> Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting in

the
> next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have asked the
> guy at the shop.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>




mabar 04-08-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have the Trac-Loc rear differential? Crawl under the TJ and look for
a small metal tag on the differential saying "limited slip additive
required."

If so, it is a limited slip design with clutch packs that can sometimes bind
slightly if the rear fluid has not been changed in a long time. Fluid should
be changed every 30000 miles or so.

Most brands of differential fluid already contain the additive, but if not,
you can buy a small bottle of the additive at most auto parts stores.

Tom

If so, change the rear differential fluid.
"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120 kms
> away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp and
> stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started moving

again
> I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
> accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing noticeable.
> I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise was
> heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and the
> noise is definitely from the back.
>
> Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before fully
> releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than that.
> I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any kind

of
> oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
> rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating on?
>
> Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote for

an
> Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting in

the
> next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have asked the
> guy at the shop.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>




mabar 04-08-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have the Trac-Loc rear differential? Crawl under the TJ and look for
a small metal tag on the differential saying "limited slip additive
required."

If so, it is a limited slip design with clutch packs that can sometimes bind
slightly if the rear fluid has not been changed in a long time. Fluid should
be changed every 30000 miles or so.

Most brands of differential fluid already contain the additive, but if not,
you can buy a small bottle of the additive at most auto parts stores.

Tom

If so, change the rear differential fluid.
"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120 kms
> away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp and
> stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started moving

again
> I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
> accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing noticeable.
> I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise was
> heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and the
> noise is definitely from the back.
>
> Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before fully
> releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than that.
> I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any kind

of
> oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
> rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating on?
>
> Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote for

an
> Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting in

the
> next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have asked the
> guy at the shop.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>




Joseph P 04-08-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have drum brakes in the back?? If so, they always have some
residual pressure on them by design, you could have some valving going
bad, or the shoes are sticking for some reason. Good luck with that.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
| Hi All,
|
| Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120
kms
| away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp
and
| stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started
moving again
| I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
| accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing
noticeable.
| I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise
was
| heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and
the
| noise is definitely from the back.
|
| Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before
fully
| releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than
that.
| I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any
kind of
| oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
| rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating
on?
|
| Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote
for an
| Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting
in the
| next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have
asked the
| guy at the shop.
|
| Thanks
| TW
|


Joseph P 04-08-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have drum brakes in the back?? If so, they always have some
residual pressure on them by design, you could have some valving going
bad, or the shoes are sticking for some reason. Good luck with that.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
| Hi All,
|
| Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120
kms
| away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp
and
| stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started
moving again
| I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
| accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing
noticeable.
| I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise
was
| heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and
the
| noise is definitely from the back.
|
| Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before
fully
| releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than
that.
| I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any
kind of
| oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
| rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating
on?
|
| Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote
for an
| Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting
in the
| next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have
asked the
| guy at the shop.
|
| Thanks
| TW
|


Joseph P 04-08-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have drum brakes in the back?? If so, they always have some
residual pressure on them by design, you could have some valving going
bad, or the shoes are sticking for some reason. Good luck with that.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
| Hi All,
|
| Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120
kms
| away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp
and
| stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started
moving again
| I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
| accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing
noticeable.
| I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise
was
| heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and
the
| noise is definitely from the back.
|
| Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before
fully
| releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than
that.
| I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any
kind of
| oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
| rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating
on?
|
| Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote
for an
| Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting
in the
| next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have
asked the
| guy at the shop.
|
| Thanks
| TW
|


Joseph P 04-08-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
Do you have drum brakes in the back?? If so, they always have some
residual pressure on them by design, you could have some valving going
bad, or the shoes are sticking for some reason. Good luck with that.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
| Hi All,
|
| Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120
kms
| away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp
and
| stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started
moving again
| I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
| accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing
noticeable.
| I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise
was
| heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and
the
| noise is definitely from the back.
|
| Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before
fully
| releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than
that.
| I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any
kind of
| oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
| rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating
on?
|
| Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote
for an
| Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting
in the
| next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have
asked the
| guy at the shop.
|
| Thanks
| TW
|


Robert Brace 04-08-2004 02:32 PM

Re: Binding noise from the rear (TJ '01)
 
TW:
If you have the TRAC-LOC plate type limited slip diff, it sounds like
"stiction" in the plates to me (will usually show up after a highway drive
and up to full temperature, then upon making a turn under power). This is
normally fixed by a fluid change, adding the recommended additive and
driving some "figure 8's" to work the fluid in. It should be OK by then.
This is providing the plates are mechanically sound. If not, further
repairs could be required.
Bob

"Joseph P" <jpribeat@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7nedc.15268$Ll3.200637@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do you have drum brakes in the back?? If so, they always have some
> residual pressure on them by design, you could have some valving going
> bad, or the shoes are sticking for some reason. Good luck with that.
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
> "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
> news:c53982$sta$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> | Hi All,
> |
> | Today I was driving my TJ '01 back home from another city about 120
> kms
> | away. There was nothing different till I came up to the off ramp
> and
> | stopped while making a slight left curvy turn. When I started
> moving again
> | I heard some binding noise from the back side of the TJ, but once I
> | accelerated more than 20 kms per hour speed there was nothing
> noticeable.
> | I tried the same thing again at another position and the same noise
> was
> | heard. I tried it again with my head sticking out of the door and
> the
> | noise is definitely from the back.
> |
> | Could this be somehow the rear brakes binding a little bit before
> fully
> | releasing when I start moving? Or is it something more serious than
> that.
> | I intend to get under the TJ and wiggle some things and see for any
> kind of
> | oil leaks and stuff tomorrow morning (its night time in New Zealand
> | rightnow). Any ideas about which areas I should be concentrating
> on?
> |
> | Oddly enough, I had stopped at a shop on the way back to get a quote
> for an
> | Old Man Emu suspension upgrade fitting that I am planning on getting
> in the
> | next few months. There was no noise at the time or I would have
> asked the
> | guy at the shop.
> |
> | Thanks
> | TW
> |
>





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