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Ben 11-02-2004 09:57 PM

Bigger Injectors
 
Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
is a part of the email he sent me...

"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.

Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."

This is the site I went too...
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/

I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
hamster wheels..

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L




DougW 11-02-2004 10:29 PM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
Ben did pass the time by typing:
> Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
> He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
> is a part of the email he sent me...
>
> "Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
> Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
> any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>
> Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>
> This is the site I went too...
> http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>
> I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
> computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
> advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
> injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
> hamster wheels..


Sure, they will dump more fuel in. What is your engine going to do with it though?
Ans: It's going to shorten the injector pulse to put the mix back to where it is
supposed to be. Which if your not careful is rich at idle. That will cause
excess carbon buildup and kill the cat.

The only reason for larger injectors is if you plan to force more air into the
engine with either a supercharger or a turbocharger and do not want to increase
fuel pump pressure or throw in a larger pressure regulator.

A good first step would be to bore out your TB and install a cat-back exhaust.
4.0 TBs should fit work with mods.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!




DougW 11-02-2004 10:29 PM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
Ben did pass the time by typing:
> Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
> He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
> is a part of the email he sent me...
>
> "Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
> Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
> any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>
> Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>
> This is the site I went too...
> http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>
> I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
> computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
> advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
> injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
> hamster wheels..


Sure, they will dump more fuel in. What is your engine going to do with it though?
Ans: It's going to shorten the injector pulse to put the mix back to where it is
supposed to be. Which if your not careful is rich at idle. That will cause
excess carbon buildup and kill the cat.

The only reason for larger injectors is if you plan to force more air into the
engine with either a supercharger or a turbocharger and do not want to increase
fuel pump pressure or throw in a larger pressure regulator.

A good first step would be to bore out your TB and install a cat-back exhaust.
4.0 TBs should fit work with mods.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!




DougW 11-02-2004 10:29 PM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
Ben did pass the time by typing:
> Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
> He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
> is a part of the email he sent me...
>
> "Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
> Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
> any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>
> Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>
> This is the site I went too...
> http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>
> I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
> computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
> advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
> injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
> hamster wheels..


Sure, they will dump more fuel in. What is your engine going to do with it though?
Ans: It's going to shorten the injector pulse to put the mix back to where it is
supposed to be. Which if your not careful is rich at idle. That will cause
excess carbon buildup and kill the cat.

The only reason for larger injectors is if you plan to force more air into the
engine with either a supercharger or a turbocharger and do not want to increase
fuel pump pressure or throw in a larger pressure regulator.

A good first step would be to bore out your TB and install a cat-back exhaust.
4.0 TBs should fit work with mods.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!




bllsht 11-02-2004 11:38 PM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
As Doug says, you need air to go with that fuel. OK if you have a turbo or
supercharger, but otherwise worthless. A larger T/Body is useless unless you
plan on driving with the "pedal to the metal" all the time. At anything other
than wide open throttle, you won't gain a bit.


In message <fPXhd.1071$N81.522@fe40.usenetserver.com>, "Ben" wrote:

>Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
>He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
>is a part of the email he sent me...
>
>"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
>Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
>any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>
>Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>
>This is the site I went too...
>http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>
>I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
>computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
>advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
>injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
>hamster wheels..
>
>Ben
>95 YJ 2.5L
>
>



bllsht 11-02-2004 11:38 PM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
As Doug says, you need air to go with that fuel. OK if you have a turbo or
supercharger, but otherwise worthless. A larger T/Body is useless unless you
plan on driving with the "pedal to the metal" all the time. At anything other
than wide open throttle, you won't gain a bit.


In message <fPXhd.1071$N81.522@fe40.usenetserver.com>, "Ben" wrote:

>Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
>He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
>is a part of the email he sent me...
>
>"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
>Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
>any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>
>Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>
>This is the site I went too...
>http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>
>I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
>computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
>advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
>injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
>hamster wheels..
>
>Ben
>95 YJ 2.5L
>
>



bllsht 11-02-2004 11:38 PM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
As Doug says, you need air to go with that fuel. OK if you have a turbo or
supercharger, but otherwise worthless. A larger T/Body is useless unless you
plan on driving with the "pedal to the metal" all the time. At anything other
than wide open throttle, you won't gain a bit.


In message <fPXhd.1071$N81.522@fe40.usenetserver.com>, "Ben" wrote:

>Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for Jeeps..
>He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods... Here
>is a part of the email he sent me...
>
>"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
>Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need for
>any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>
>Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>
>This is the site I went too...
>http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>
>I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by the
>computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take full
>advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
>injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the 4
>hamster wheels..
>
>Ben
>95 YJ 2.5L
>
>



Ben 11-03-2004 12:04 AM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
Thanks for the info.. Looks like I am stuck with the 4banger for awhile...
Start saving up for a 4.0L or maybe just drop in a V8... Come on lottery!!!
LOL

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:6mngo0t5j86uem2i4vdsvbs2r5bpfpo55f@4ax.com...
> As Doug says, you need air to go with that fuel. OK if you have a turbo
> or
> supercharger, but otherwise worthless. A larger T/Body is useless unless
> you
> plan on driving with the "pedal to the metal" all the time. At anything
> other
> than wide open throttle, you won't gain a bit.
>
>
> In message <fPXhd.1071$N81.522@fe40.usenetserver.com>, "Ben" wrote:
>
>>Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for
>>Jeeps..
>>He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods...
>>Here
>>is a part of the email he sent me...
>>
>>"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
>>Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need
>>for
>>any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>>
>>Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>>
>>This is the site I went too...
>>http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>>
>>I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by
>>the
>>computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take
>>full
>>advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
>>injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the
>>4
>>hamster wheels..
>>
>>Ben
>>95 YJ 2.5L
>>
>>

>





Ben 11-03-2004 12:04 AM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
Thanks for the info.. Looks like I am stuck with the 4banger for awhile...
Start saving up for a 4.0L or maybe just drop in a V8... Come on lottery!!!
LOL

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:6mngo0t5j86uem2i4vdsvbs2r5bpfpo55f@4ax.com...
> As Doug says, you need air to go with that fuel. OK if you have a turbo
> or
> supercharger, but otherwise worthless. A larger T/Body is useless unless
> you
> plan on driving with the "pedal to the metal" all the time. At anything
> other
> than wide open throttle, you won't gain a bit.
>
>
> In message <fPXhd.1071$N81.522@fe40.usenetserver.com>, "Ben" wrote:
>
>>Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for
>>Jeeps..
>>He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods...
>>Here
>>is a part of the email he sent me...
>>
>>"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
>>Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need
>>for
>>any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>>
>>Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>>
>>This is the site I went too...
>>http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>>
>>I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by
>>the
>>computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take
>>full
>>advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
>>injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the
>>4
>>hamster wheels..
>>
>>Ben
>>95 YJ 2.5L
>>
>>

>





Ben 11-03-2004 12:04 AM

Re: Bigger Injectors
 
Thanks for the info.. Looks like I am stuck with the 4banger for awhile...
Start saving up for a 4.0L or maybe just drop in a V8... Come on lottery!!!
LOL

Ben
95 YJ 2.5L

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:6mngo0t5j86uem2i4vdsvbs2r5bpfpo55f@4ax.com...
> As Doug says, you need air to go with that fuel. OK if you have a turbo
> or
> supercharger, but otherwise worthless. A larger T/Body is useless unless
> you
> plan on driving with the "pedal to the metal" all the time. At anything
> other
> than wide open throttle, you won't gain a bit.
>
>
> In message <fPXhd.1071$N81.522@fe40.usenetserver.com>, "Ben" wrote:
>
>>Ok.. I just got an email from a guy that sells bigger injectors for
>>Jeeps..
>>He claims that I can put in 24lb injectors in my 2.5L with out mods...
>>Here
>>is a part of the email he sent me...
>>
>>"Ben - I sell upgraded Bosch Design III (p/n 0280155710) sets for your
>>Jeep - this injector will provide a 4% increase in fuel without the need
>>for
>>any other mods to the fuel or air intake systems.
>>
>>Price for the set is $144 plus shipping."
>>
>>This is the site I went too...
>>http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/
>>
>>I was wonder if that is true.. I thought that the MPI was controlled by
>>the
>>computer and the computer would have to be changed out in order to take
>>full
>>advantage of the new injectors.. Or will the computer detect the new
>>injectors and adjust for them... Just trying to do some simple mods to the
>>4
>>hamster wheels..
>>
>>Ben
>>95 YJ 2.5L
>>
>>

>






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