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Re: BFG vs Wrangler
Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the
nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. SB wrote: > so....better in mud AND sand?? and as good as the AT in lesser offroading > terrain?! > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > news:kGIEc.10356$LW5.4624@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om... > >>If it was a daily driver, I'd go with (and have both) BFG ATs or GY >>MT/Rs. You can't go wrong. The MT/Rs will be better in mud than the BFG >>ATs though. >> >>SB wrote: >> >> >>>Well, it is a daily driver....and my hearing can suffer no worse. >>> >>>I use the jeep for fun on weekends....but am in the snow/ice belt up > > here in > >>>Barrie, Ontario. >>> >>>MT's do look cool too! >>> >>>So, I'd go with AT's if MT's have too many cons! >>> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>>news:NUHEc.9566$Vb.6393@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com... >>> >>> >>>>Do you want ATs or MTs?? Apart from the GY MT/Rs, I'd stay with BFG ATs >>>>or MTs. >>>> >>>>SB wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I was out at a Jeep shop today and was pricing tires. >>>>> >>>>>I asked about BFG AT's and the guy turned me on to Wranglers instead. >>>>> >>>>>Was wondering if anyone had any issues with Wrangler MT's. >>>>>And if anyone uses them as a daily driver?! >>>>>I've got about 100km round trip per day and don't want to get new ones >>> >>>in a >>> >>> >>>>>year cuz they've worn!. >>>>> >>>>>BTW: is $210 Canadian per tire a good deal?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>>tw >>>> >>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>>>01 XJ Sport >>>> >>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>>>-- Dave Barry >>>> >>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>>>Function: noun >>>>Date: 1940 >>>> >>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>>>World War II. >>>> >>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ >> > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the
nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. SB wrote: > so....better in mud AND sand?? and as good as the AT in lesser offroading > terrain?! > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > news:kGIEc.10356$LW5.4624@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om... > >>If it was a daily driver, I'd go with (and have both) BFG ATs or GY >>MT/Rs. You can't go wrong. The MT/Rs will be better in mud than the BFG >>ATs though. >> >>SB wrote: >> >> >>>Well, it is a daily driver....and my hearing can suffer no worse. >>> >>>I use the jeep for fun on weekends....but am in the snow/ice belt up > > here in > >>>Barrie, Ontario. >>> >>>MT's do look cool too! >>> >>>So, I'd go with AT's if MT's have too many cons! >>> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>>news:NUHEc.9566$Vb.6393@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com... >>> >>> >>>>Do you want ATs or MTs?? Apart from the GY MT/Rs, I'd stay with BFG ATs >>>>or MTs. >>>> >>>>SB wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I was out at a Jeep shop today and was pricing tires. >>>>> >>>>>I asked about BFG AT's and the guy turned me on to Wranglers instead. >>>>> >>>>>Was wondering if anyone had any issues with Wrangler MT's. >>>>>And if anyone uses them as a daily driver?! >>>>>I've got about 100km round trip per day and don't want to get new ones >>> >>>in a >>> >>> >>>>>year cuz they've worn!. >>>>> >>>>>BTW: is $210 Canadian per tire a good deal?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>>tw >>>> >>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>>>01 XJ Sport >>>> >>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>>>-- Dave Barry >>>> >>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>>>Function: noun >>>>Date: 1940 >>>> >>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>>>World War II. >>>> >>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ >> > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the
nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. SB wrote: > so....better in mud AND sand?? and as good as the AT in lesser offroading > terrain?! > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message > news:kGIEc.10356$LW5.4624@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om... > >>If it was a daily driver, I'd go with (and have both) BFG ATs or GY >>MT/Rs. You can't go wrong. The MT/Rs will be better in mud than the BFG >>ATs though. >> >>SB wrote: >> >> >>>Well, it is a daily driver....and my hearing can suffer no worse. >>> >>>I use the jeep for fun on weekends....but am in the snow/ice belt up > > here in > >>>Barrie, Ontario. >>> >>>MT's do look cool too! >>> >>>So, I'd go with AT's if MT's have too many cons! >>> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>>news:NUHEc.9566$Vb.6393@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com... >>> >>> >>>>Do you want ATs or MTs?? Apart from the GY MT/Rs, I'd stay with BFG ATs >>>>or MTs. >>>> >>>>SB wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I was out at a Jeep shop today and was pricing tires. >>>>> >>>>>I asked about BFG AT's and the guy turned me on to Wranglers instead. >>>>> >>>>>Was wondering if anyone had any issues with Wrangler MT's. >>>>>And if anyone uses them as a daily driver?! >>>>>I've got about 100km round trip per day and don't want to get new ones >>> >>>in a >>> >>> >>>>>year cuz they've worn!. >>>>> >>>>>BTW: is $210 Canadian per tire a good deal?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>>tw >>>> >>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>>>01 XJ Sport >>>> >>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>>>-- Dave Barry >>>> >>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>>>Function: noun >>>>Date: 1940 >>>> >>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>>>World War II. >>>> >>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ >> > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
I use BF Goodrich AT KO's of course, it never rains in Southern
California: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...17weather.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ twaldron wrote: > > Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the > nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" > tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is > rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say > the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and > perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
I use BF Goodrich AT KO's of course, it never rains in Southern
California: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...17weather.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ twaldron wrote: > > Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the > nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" > tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is > rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say > the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and > perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
I use BF Goodrich AT KO's of course, it never rains in Southern
California: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...17weather.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ twaldron wrote: > > Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the > nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" > tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is > rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say > the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and > perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
I use BF Goodrich AT KO's of course, it never rains in Southern
California: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...17weather.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ twaldron wrote: > > Well, GY MT/Rs are built for "Multi Terrain" (as opposed to the > nominclature "Mud Terrain" and should be considered an "All Terrain" > tire), although they do well above average in mud, their strength is > rocks...BFG AT KO's weakness is mud. For a street/trail tire I'd say > the BFG AT KOs come out ahead, whereas the MT/Rs get a nod offroad and > perform better on rocks and mud than the BFG. |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uxKEc.2$FiQ.1@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.roger s.com... : so....better in mud AND sand?? and as good as the AT in lesser offroading : terrain?! : Rankings in order IMO (1st, 2nd, 3rd) ON ROAD dry pavement: AT,MTR,MT wet pavement: AT,MTR,MT snow: AT,MTR,MT tread wear: AT,MT,MTR (mt and mtr are a wash) noise: AT,MTR,MT OFF ROAD dry hard trail: AT,MTR,MT dry soft trail: MTR,MT,AT wet hard trail: MTR,AT,MT wet soft trail: MT,MTR,AT mud: MT,MTR,AT sand: MT,MTR,AT rocks: MTR,MT,AT Conclusion: ( % on road / % off road) 80/20: AT - great wear, great rain/snow road tire, okay for mixed terrain. 50/50: MTR - good overall road tire, excell at mixed terrain and rocks. 20/80: MT - poor rain/snow on road, excell at mud and wet loose terrain. For a 100km commute, I'd definately go with AT -Brian |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uxKEc.2$FiQ.1@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.roger s.com... : so....better in mud AND sand?? and as good as the AT in lesser offroading : terrain?! : Rankings in order IMO (1st, 2nd, 3rd) ON ROAD dry pavement: AT,MTR,MT wet pavement: AT,MTR,MT snow: AT,MTR,MT tread wear: AT,MT,MTR (mt and mtr are a wash) noise: AT,MTR,MT OFF ROAD dry hard trail: AT,MTR,MT dry soft trail: MTR,MT,AT wet hard trail: MTR,AT,MT wet soft trail: MT,MTR,AT mud: MT,MTR,AT sand: MT,MTR,AT rocks: MTR,MT,AT Conclusion: ( % on road / % off road) 80/20: AT - great wear, great rain/snow road tire, okay for mixed terrain. 50/50: MTR - good overall road tire, excell at mixed terrain and rocks. 20/80: MT - poor rain/snow on road, excell at mud and wet loose terrain. For a 100km commute, I'd definately go with AT -Brian |
Re: BFG vs Wrangler
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uxKEc.2$FiQ.1@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.roger s.com... : so....better in mud AND sand?? and as good as the AT in lesser offroading : terrain?! : Rankings in order IMO (1st, 2nd, 3rd) ON ROAD dry pavement: AT,MTR,MT wet pavement: AT,MTR,MT snow: AT,MTR,MT tread wear: AT,MT,MTR (mt and mtr are a wash) noise: AT,MTR,MT OFF ROAD dry hard trail: AT,MTR,MT dry soft trail: MTR,MT,AT wet hard trail: MTR,AT,MT wet soft trail: MT,MTR,AT mud: MT,MTR,AT sand: MT,MTR,AT rocks: MTR,MT,AT Conclusion: ( % on road / % off road) 80/20: AT - great wear, great rain/snow road tire, okay for mixed terrain. 50/50: MTR - good overall road tire, excell at mixed terrain and rocks. 20/80: MT - poor rain/snow on road, excell at mud and wet loose terrain. For a 100km commute, I'd definately go with AT -Brian |
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