Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Hi Jeepers,
I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
and promised to send it immediately.
To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
than enough time.

He is now one of the owners of a business called:
Mom's Apple Pie
281 Main
Falmouth, MA 02540

While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.

If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
Thanks, Al Green




90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
Canyon City tire rack
Warn 9500i winch
3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
lots of armor underneath

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

"Arold \"Al\" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message news:<u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com>. ..
> Hi Jeepers,
> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> and promised to send it immediately.
> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> than enough time.
>
> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>
> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks, Al Green
>
>
>
>
> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> Canyon City tire rack
> Warn 9500i winch
> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> lots of armor underneath



Three words;
Sue His Ass.

small claims court.
Sue for the amount of the check
and court costs.

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

You take days off work, go to court, he doesn't show up, you get
the judgment, them what?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Elflan wrote:
>
> Three words;
> Sue His Ass.
>
> small claims court.
> Sue for the amount of the check
> and court costs.

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
lesson in humanity
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
>
> Hi Jeepers,
> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> and promised to send it immediately.
> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> than enough time.
>
> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>
> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks, Al Green
>
> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> Canyon City tire rack
> Warn 9500i winch
> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> lots of armor underneath

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You take days off work, go to court, he doesn't show up, you get
> the judgment, them what?

Probably turn it over to a collections agency in the thiefs home town and
let them deal with it.

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

I've paid collection agencies to collect bad checks they're better
rip off artist than the dead beats.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Probably turn it over to a collections agency in the thiefs home town and
> let them deal with it.

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Bill, that's mail fraud. It's a felony, I do believe. The fact that he
offered something for sale and took payment through the US mail and
returned nothing for the money, he has committed mail fraud.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Taylor? What does the Post Office have to do with Al Green writing a
> check and mailing it to Joe Capraro? If there's any fraud involved it
> was in this news group he advertised. Maybe, we should sue this group,
> shall we name you as a defendant?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
>
>>Go to your local postmaster. You were ripped off by someone utilizing
>>the USPS. Take copies of all your e-mail/letters and let the person
>>deal with the legal authorities.
>>
>>I would call one more time and if Joe doesn't talk to you there and then
>>tell the person on the phone than the minute you hang up you are going
>>to the speak with the US Postal Inspection Service regarding his *MAIL
>>FRAUD* and don't bluff. The minute you hang up without talking to him,
>>do so. Make sure your call is early enough wherever you are at to file
>>both a police and USPIS reports.
>>
>>A criminal record + fines + possible jail time suck for a mere $175.
>>
>>--
>>Taylor
>>
>>'89 Audi 200
>>'01 Audi A6 2.7T
>>'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>


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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:32:54 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Taylor? What does the Post Office have to do with Al Green writing a
>check and mailing it to Joe Capraro? If there's any fraud involved it
>was in this news group he advertised. Maybe, we should sue this group,
>shall we name you as a defendant?

How did Joe get the money? Granted maybe Arold sent it overnight via
UPS or FedEx but if he didn't then he was defrauded by mail. Just
because Joe said his headers were for sale here doesn't exclude the fact
that the USPS was used for fraudulent reasons. I doubt you or I could
say if Joe had intended to rip people off here or not.

Now I know in your case you think you should just let the thief get away
with ripping someone off and I don't agree with that. To me a deal is a
deal and if one person rips off another there should be consequences for
their actions.... Its not the money, its the principle and you let
people get away with fraud by only taking the amount of money lost is
not good business in my book.


--
Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'01 Audi A6 2.7T
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Taylor, what proof does Arnold have that he mailed the check?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Just Taylor wrote:
>
> How did Joe get the money? Granted maybe Arold sent it overnight via
> UPS or FedEx but if he didn't then he was defrauded by mail. Just
> because Joe said his headers were for sale here doesn't exclude the fact
> that the USPS was used for fraudulent reasons. I doubt you or I could
> say if Joe had intended to rip people off here or not.
>
> Now I know in your case you think you should just let the thief get away
> with ripping someone off and I don't agree with that. To me a deal is a
> deal and if one person rips off another there should be consequences for
> their actions.... Its not the money, its the principle and you let
> people get away with fraud by only taking the amount of money lost is
> not good business in my book.
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '89 Audi 200
> '01 Audi A6 2.7T
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:05:33 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Taylor, what proof does Arnold have that he mailed the check?

Exactly. We don't know the full story, maybe Joe will stop by and tell
his side....

Either way true or not, for me once again its the principle and if Arold
is tell the truth then he should take action and not allow somebody to
rip him off. Or maybe he file a claim with B.------ Insurance since
their easy going "life is good" ease the pain of humanity clause? :)


--
Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'01 Audi A6 2.7T
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Unfortunately, Bill is correct. Although small claims court may, and
probably will rule in your favor, collecting your money is another matter.

Collecting $175 from a deadbeat will be almost impossible. If he doesn't
want to pay the judgment, there is very little you can do, except pay a
lawyer BIG BUCKS to TRY to collect for you.

Tom

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F15D056.5F987DAE@cox.net...
> You take days off work, go to court, he doesn't show up, you get
> the judgment, them what?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > Three words;
> > Sue His Ass.
> >
> > small claims court.
> > Sue for the amount of the check
> > and court costs.

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Most deadbeats don't own a business, but if he is an owner of
"Mom's Apple Pie" you can and I have walk in and opened the cash box and
taken the judgment. It's nice to have the cops in on it with you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

mabar wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, Bill is correct. Although small claims court may, and
> probably will rule in your favor, collecting your money is another matter.
>
> Collecting $175 from a deadbeat will be almost impossible. If he doesn't
> want to pay the judgment, there is very little you can do, except pay a
> lawyer BIG BUCKS to TRY to collect for you.
>
> Tom

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Bill, I agree, totally. But the newsgroup should be aware of this
guy. And, on the off chance that someone lives close to this place of
business - they might want to know the true colors of the owner of
"Mom's Apple Pie".
Al

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
>lesson in humanity
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeepers,
>> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
>> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
>> and promised to send it immediately.
>> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
>> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
>> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
>> than enough time.
>>
>> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
>> Mom's Apple Pie
>> 281 Main
>> Falmouth, MA 02540
>>
>> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
>> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
>> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
>> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>>
>> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
>> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
>> Thanks, Al Green
>>
>> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
>> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
>> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
>> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
>> Canyon City tire rack
>> Warn 9500i winch
>> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
>> lots of armor underneath

__
Arold "Al" Green

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

No, actually, I think Thomas is right. The ebay scammer (I think his name
was Jay Nelson...) that was selling computer products on ebay and not
delivering anything was basically nailed by the USPS for mail fraud if I
remember correctly. If the USPS is your delivery system for your product
and you keep the money and don't deliver, it's mail fraud. I think it has
to happen three times to become a felony, though.
TJim

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F15E661.E15B508E@cox.net...
> Hi Thomas,
> I beleive if the mail is used to offer a product for sale. Like we
> order something from the junk mail, and we don't receive it, then it's a
> matter for the Postmaster. But I really believe if you mailed me a check
> and I cash it, I don't have to even say: thank you, Sucker. Maybe our
> resident attorney Robert, may offer a free opinion.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that's mail fraud. It's a felony, I do believe. The fact that he
> > offered something for sale and took payment through the US mail and
> > returned nothing for the money, he has committed mail fraud.

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Looks like Joe's pretty busy holding his film festival next week. Check out

http://www.woodsholefilmfestival.org...003schd01.html

You may be able to smear his name with his buddies

"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com...
> Hi Jeepers,
> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> and promised to send it immediately.
> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> than enough time.
>
> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>
> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks, Al Green
>
>
>
>
> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> Canyon City tire rack
> Warn 9500i winch
> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> lots of armor underneath

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Something like this happened to me once before, but I had paid the scumbag
with a credit card and I got my money refunded once I complained to the
credit card company. I felt bad that he hadn't actually committed any crime
that I could have him prosecuted for.

Make copies of your cancelled check, all correspondence with this guy, and
your written explanation of what has happened, and send them to your United
States District Attorney's Office. (If you live in Massachusetts, contact
the Massachusetts District Attorney with jurisdiction over Falmouth.) That
should get things moving in the right direction.

Earle

"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:b1nbhvsnu3sti38lnlruvabfhigfk9okjh@4ax.com...
> Bill, I agree, totally. But the newsgroup should be aware of this
> guy. And, on the off chance that someone lives close to this place of
> business - they might want to know the true colors of the owner of
> "Mom's Apple Pie".
> Al
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
> >lesson in humanity
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jeepers,
> >> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> >> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> >> and promised to send it immediately.
> >> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> >> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> >> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> >> than enough time.
> >>
> >> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> >> Mom's Apple Pie
> >> 281 Main
> >> Falmouth, MA 02540
> >>
> >> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> >> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> >> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> >> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
> >>
> >> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> >> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> >> Thanks, Al Green
> >>
> >> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> >> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> >> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> >> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> >> Canyon City tire rack
> >> Warn 9500i winch
> >> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> >> lots of armor underneath
>
> __
> Arold "Al" Green

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Taylor, what proof does Arnold have that he mailed the check?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
>
>>How did Joe get the money? Granted maybe Arold sent it overnight via
>>UPS or FedEx but if he didn't then he was defrauded by mail. Just
>>because Joe said his headers were for sale here doesn't exclude the fact
>>that the USPS was used for fraudulent reasons. I doubt you or I could
>>say if Joe had intended to rip people off here or not.
>>
>>Now I know in your case you think you should just let the thief get away
>>with ripping someone off and I don't agree with that. To me a deal is a
>>deal and if one person rips off another there should be consequences for
>>their actions.... Its not the money, its the principle and you let
>>people get away with fraud by only taking the amount of money lost is
>>not good business in my book.
>>
>>--
>>Taylor
>>
>>'89 Audi 200
>>'01 Audi A6 2.7T
>>'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

I'm a loan officer who also collects his own debt....atty too expensive, dist
atty isn't a bad idea, small claims would be hard because you actually have to
serve him papers...outta state is real hard....could be done with certified
mail if the judge accepts that. The dist atty is a pretty good idea. I've done
that before here in Tulsa, OK. Real simple process although I did have to pay a
fee...but was refunded back when the funds were collected. Try'in to get the
USPS involved sounds pretty good too! My advise call it a learning experience
AND KEEP CALLING lol that will atleast bug the sh*t outta him! Your not a
lender so most if not all laws are void. If he disappears....for a small fee
there are guys who can track him down and all his new ph #'s. I wouldn't worry
about harrasment...most scum like him are too broke to fight back. Best of luck
to ya! Being ripped off sucks bad!

Brian
88 Wrangler

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Yup, made out for $175 for what, a lesson well learned? For that
good BJ he gave Arnold last time he was up in Massachusetts?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
> He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

If he sent the cheque by the post, then it would be mail fraud.
In any case, a would venture that a complaint to the postmaster general
would inspire some action.



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F15E031.2D97D135@cox.net...
> Taylor? What does the Post Office have to do with Al Green writing a
> check and mailing it to Joe Capraro? If there's any fraud involved it
> was in this news group he advertised. Maybe, we should sue this group,
> shall we name you as a defendant?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
> >
> > Go to your local postmaster. You were ripped off by someone utilizing
> > the USPS. Take copies of all your e-mail/letters and let the person
> > deal with the legal authorities.
> >
> > I would call one more time and if Joe doesn't talk to you there and then
> > tell the person on the phone than the minute you hang up you are going
> > to the speak with the US Postal Inspection Service regarding his *MAIL
> > FRAUD* and don't bluff. The minute you hang up without talking to him,
> > do so. Make sure your call is early enough wherever you are at to file
> > both a police and USPIS reports.
> >
> > A criminal record + fines + possible jail time suck for a mere $175.
> >
> > --
> > Taylor
> >
> > '89 Audi 200
> > '01 Audi A6 2.7T
> > '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Things must be different in Oklahoma, here in Sounthern California
a Pee-On can have your phone disonnected, no questions asked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> I'm a loan officer who also collects his own debt....atty too expensive, dist
> atty isn't a bad idea, small claims would be hard because you actually have to
> serve him papers...outta state is real hard....could be done with certified
> mail if the judge accepts that. The dist atty is a pretty good idea. I've done
> that before here in Tulsa, OK. Real simple process although I did have to pay a
> fee...but was refunded back when the funds were collected. Try'in to get the
> USPS involved sounds pretty good too! My advise call it a learning experience
> AND KEEP CALLING lol that will atleast bug the sh*t outta him! Your not a
> lender so most if not all laws are void. If he disappears....for a small fee
> there are guys who can track him down and all his new ph #'s. I wouldn't worry
> about harrasment...most scum like him are too broke to fight back. Best of luck
> to ya! Being ripped off sucks bad!
>
> Brian
> 88 Wrangler

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

If Al is smart, he has copies of the original post advertising the header in
this newsgroup, all the emails he sent to or received from Capraro, and the
cancelled check. That should be enough to get law enforcement interested.
Maybe not. Maybe they're like the Denver police and spend all their time
beating up or shooting civilians, so there's no time to investigate a small
theft like this. Maybe they're too busy with homeland security.

A civil action is possible too, but that would almost certainly burn up more
money and time than it is worth. Still, if you got a judgement you could
send a Falmouth collection agency after him...

Earle

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F161EB7.10482F3@cox.net...
> Yup, made out for $175 for what, a lesson well learned? For that
> good BJ he gave Arnold last time he was up in Massachusetts?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
> >
> > He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Hey, the Denver police aren't so hot. The local San Jose police
also shoot civilians...even in their own home, when the civilian
is armed with what anyone with a clue would recognize as an
asian style vegetable peeler. The cop claimed it was a cleaver.


Earle Horton wrote:

> If Al is smart, he has copies of the original post advertising the header in
> this newsgroup, all the emails he sent to or received from Capraro, and the
> cancelled check. That should be enough to get law enforcement interested.
> Maybe not. Maybe they're like the Denver police and spend all their time
> beating up or shooting civilians, so there's no time to investigate a small
> theft like this. Maybe they're too busy with homeland security.
>
> A civil action is possible too, but that would almost certainly burn up more
> money and time than it is worth. Still, if you got a judgement you could
> send a Falmouth collection agency after him...
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F161EB7.10482F3@cox.net...
>> Yup, made out for $175 for what, a lesson well learned? For that
>> good BJ he gave Arnold last time he was up in Massachusetts?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Thomas Waldron wrote:
>> >
>> > He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.
>> > tw
>> > 03 TJ Rubicon
>> > 01 XJ Sport
>> >
>> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>> > -- Dave Barry
>> >
>> > http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
>> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>> > __________________________________________________ _________
>
>

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Take out a full page add in his local newspaper. Either that ot get some of
your Jeep friends to picket his resturaunt. long enough to casue hime to loose
more money than you did.
Scott
'00 TJ

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

In California it's the phone company that disconnect the phone on
one complain.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> haha..you can disconnect your phone all ya want I'll still finda ya! That aint
> a big deal. Friends in low places help alot.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

I've been ripped off too. My first of MANY calls already went out to him.





"Bralos" <nospam@zerowait.com> wrote in message
news:3f170fb1$1_1@news.dca.net...
> Better yet lets all very NICELY call him up and ask when he is going to
pay
> his debt! I figure if 50 or 60 of us do this on a regular bases he might
get
> the idea.
>
> Joe Capraro
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> Phone # 508-540-8572
> "Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com...
> > Hi Jeepers,
> > I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> > Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> > and promised to send it immediately.
> > To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> > sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> > promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> > than enough time.
> >
> > He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> > Mom's Apple Pie
> > 281 Main
> > Falmouth, MA 02540
> >
> > While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> > people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> > when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> > least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
> >
> > If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> > a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> > Thanks, Al Green
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> > OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> > 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> > Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> > Canyon City tire rack
> > Warn 9500i winch
> > 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> > lots of armor underneath
>
>

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

If you've been ripped off by the same guy, and you and Al both send
complaint letters to the same law enforcement office, that is a lot more
likely to get someone's attention than if just one of you did it...

Earle

"kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:s1URa.22888$BM.6673117@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> I've been ripped off too. My first of MANY calls already went out to him.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Bralos" <nospam@zerowait.com> wrote in message
> news:3f170fb1$1_1@news.dca.net...
> > Better yet lets all very NICELY call him up and ask when he is going to
> pay
> > his debt! I figure if 50 or 60 of us do this on a regular bases he might
> get
> > the idea.
> >
> > Joe Capraro
> > Mom's Apple Pie
> > 281 Main
> > Falmouth, MA 02540
> >
> > Phone # 508-540-8572
> > "Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
> > news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com...
> > > Hi Jeepers,
> > > I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> > > Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> > > and promised to send it immediately.
> > > To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> > > sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> > > promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> > > than enough time.
> > >
> > > He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> > > Mom's Apple Pie
> > > 281 Main
> > > Falmouth, MA 02540
> > >
> > > While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> > > people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> > > when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> > > least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
> > >
> > > If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> > > a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> > > Thanks, Al Green
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> > > OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> > > 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> > > Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> > > Canyon City tire rack
> > > Warn 9500i winch
> > > 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> > > lots of armor underneath
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

I remember this guy.

He had a bunch of electrical problems with his engine swap - swapped a 92
4.0L into his 88YJ. I helped him out over the course of several days
emailing and faxing him schematics and wiring diagrams from my 92 factory
service manual. Seemed like a nice guy. He said he'd let me know how it
went, but I never heard squat back from him. If he stiffed you, I hope he
never got the damn thing working.

There was also one small thing that he said he would do (but never did) at
the time when I was helping him that sent up a red flag in my mind -- he
asked for my address because he said he wanted to send something "as a token
of his appreciation" for my help. Maybe he meant a thank-you card or
something. Not that I wanted or expected anything from him except knowing
that he got his Jeep working, but he never sent anything. I was taught that
if you tell a man you're going to do something, then DO it! Certainly a
reflection of one's character.

Good luck to you Al. Getting ripped off stinks. Never let your guard down
when dealing with anybody these days.

Terry.



"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com...
> Hi Jeepers,
> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> and promised to send it immediately.
> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> than enough time.
>
> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>
> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks, Al Green
>
>
>
>
> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> Canyon City tire rack
> Warn 9500i winch
> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> lots of armor underneath

Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
 

Hi Terry,
You sent me a fax number that led me to him after he completely
bailed, i.e. email & phone disconnected. That was a work place and
they gave me his current business number.
I called again today and as I expected he was not available. Mike who
answered the phone confirmed that Joe Capraro is the owner of Mom's
Apple Pie at 281 Main, Falmouth, MA 02540
phone # 508-540-8572
Thanks Terry,
Al

"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I remember this guy.
>
>He had a bunch of electrical problems with his engine swap - swapped a 92
>4.0L into his 88YJ. I helped him out over the course of several days
>emailing and faxing him schematics and wiring diagrams from my 92 factory
>service manual. Seemed like a nice guy. He said he'd let me know how it
>went, but I never heard squat back from him. If he stiffed you, I hope he
>never got the damn thing working.
>
>There was also one small thing that he said he would do (but never did) at
>the time when I was helping him that sent up a red flag in my mind -- he
>asked for my address because he said he wanted to send something "as a token
>of his appreciation" for my help. Maybe he meant a thank-you card or
>something. Not that I wanted or expected anything from him except knowing
>that he got his Jeep working, but he never sent anything. I was taught that
>if you tell a man you're going to do something, then DO it! Certainly a
>reflection of one's character.
>
>Good luck to you Al. Getting ripped off stinks. Never let your guard down
>when dealing with anybody these days.
>
>Terry.
>
>
>
>"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
>news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com.. .
>> Hi Jeepers,
>> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
>> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
>> and promised to send it immediately.
>> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
>> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
>> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
>> than enough time.
>>
>> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
>> Mom's Apple Pie
>> 281 Main
>> Falmouth, MA 02540
>>
>> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
>> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
>> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
>> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>>
>> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
>> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
>> Thanks, Al Green
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
>> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
>> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
>> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
>> Canyon City tire rack
>> Warn 9500i winch
>> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
>> lots of armor underneath
>
>

__
Arold "Al" Green