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Pete 01-06-2004 11:30 AM

Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ? I
installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The rod
on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.

The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed in
Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket back
about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to the
jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
far enough to get a flush close on the door.

If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
anything useful, I would be a happy camper.

Thanks,
Pete



Pete 01-07-2004 04:55 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
"Pete" <thompson@KILLBADSPAMwebprepared.com> wrote in message
news:vvlollitu6nqb2@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ?

I
> installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
> the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The

rod
> on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.
>
> The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed

in
> Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
> these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
> and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket

back
> about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to

the
> jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
> far enough to get a flush close on the door.
>
> If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
> anything useful, I would be a happy camper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>


One thing I forgot to add, I don't believe there is any way to drill another
hole in the body to move these "bow mount brackets" in a couple inches.. so
doing a drill mod without bolting an extra plate down to the frame would not
be of much help, as far as I can see..



Pete 01-07-2004 04:55 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
"Pete" <thompson@KILLBADSPAMwebprepared.com> wrote in message
news:vvlollitu6nqb2@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ?

I
> installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
> the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The

rod
> on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.
>
> The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed

in
> Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
> these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
> and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket

back
> about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to

the
> jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
> far enough to get a flush close on the door.
>
> If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
> anything useful, I would be a happy camper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>


One thing I forgot to add, I don't believe there is any way to drill another
hole in the body to move these "bow mount brackets" in a couple inches.. so
doing a drill mod without bolting an extra plate down to the frame would not
be of much help, as far as I can see..



Pete 01-07-2004 04:55 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
"Pete" <thompson@KILLBADSPAMwebprepared.com> wrote in message
news:vvlollitu6nqb2@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ?

I
> installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
> the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The

rod
> on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.
>
> The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed

in
> Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
> these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
> and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket

back
> about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to

the
> jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
> far enough to get a flush close on the door.
>
> If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
> anything useful, I would be a happy camper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>


One thing I forgot to add, I don't believe there is any way to drill another
hole in the body to move these "bow mount brackets" in a couple inches.. so
doing a drill mod without bolting an extra plate down to the frame would not
be of much help, as far as I can see..



Cliff 01-09-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
Pete,

Good luck! I own a 1993 Wrangler and I replaced my top with a sunrider last
year. I had the same crap! Went round and round with Quatratec who sold me
the top, and Bestop. Got absolutely nowhere. Their tops fit like ----!
the doors hit those clamps at the jamb. Same problem I had. Try reversing
them. Take the one from the right door and put it on the left ect.... This
worked for me. Not perfect but the doors shut a lot easier and the door
doesnt cut into your top every time you close it. I spent at least a year
going back and forth with Bestop over this issue. In my opinion there tops
a very poorly engineered. It took me 6 months before I finally got
Quatratec to admit that they new of these types of issues with Bestop. Some
of the salesmen even had these same issues with their own jeeps. After all
that, Bestop sent me a replacement top and guess what? The sent me a Bestop
instead of a Sunrider. That place is a mess! I would recomend to anyone
not to buy from bestop and by a factory replacement from Chrysler if they
can. Even if its twice the price you be glad you did. I also bought a pair
of "Sliders and the fit like ---- too. They sent me 3 sets and none of the
fit right or were the same fit as the previous set. My top comes apart all
the time at highway speeds. The velcro comes undone and I somtimes have to
pull off of the highway to re-attach it. A real peice of ----!



"Pete" <thompson@KILLBADSPAMwebprepared.com> wrote in message
news:vvlollitu6nqb2@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ?

I
> installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
> the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The

rod
> on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.
>
> The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed

in
> Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
> these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
> and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket

back
> about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to

the
> jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
> far enough to get a flush close on the door.
>
> If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
> anything useful, I would be a happy camper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>




Cliff 01-09-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
Pete,

Good luck! I own a 1993 Wrangler and I replaced my top with a sunrider last
year. I had the same crap! Went round and round with Quatratec who sold me
the top, and Bestop. Got absolutely nowhere. Their tops fit like ----!
the doors hit those clamps at the jamb. Same problem I had. Try reversing
them. Take the one from the right door and put it on the left ect.... This
worked for me. Not perfect but the doors shut a lot easier and the door
doesnt cut into your top every time you close it. I spent at least a year
going back and forth with Bestop over this issue. In my opinion there tops
a very poorly engineered. It took me 6 months before I finally got
Quatratec to admit that they new of these types of issues with Bestop. Some
of the salesmen even had these same issues with their own jeeps. After all
that, Bestop sent me a replacement top and guess what? The sent me a Bestop
instead of a Sunrider. That place is a mess! I would recomend to anyone
not to buy from bestop and by a factory replacement from Chrysler if they
can. Even if its twice the price you be glad you did. I also bought a pair
of "Sliders and the fit like ---- too. They sent me 3 sets and none of the
fit right or were the same fit as the previous set. My top comes apart all
the time at highway speeds. The velcro comes undone and I somtimes have to
pull off of the highway to re-attach it. A real peice of ----!



"Pete" <thompson@KILLBADSPAMwebprepared.com> wrote in message
news:vvlollitu6nqb2@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ?

I
> installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
> the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The

rod
> on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.
>
> The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed

in
> Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
> these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
> and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket

back
> about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to

the
> jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
> far enough to get a flush close on the door.
>
> If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
> anything useful, I would be a happy camper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>




Cliff 01-09-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
Pete,

Good luck! I own a 1993 Wrangler and I replaced my top with a sunrider last
year. I had the same crap! Went round and round with Quatratec who sold me
the top, and Bestop. Got absolutely nowhere. Their tops fit like ----!
the doors hit those clamps at the jamb. Same problem I had. Try reversing
them. Take the one from the right door and put it on the left ect.... This
worked for me. Not perfect but the doors shut a lot easier and the door
doesnt cut into your top every time you close it. I spent at least a year
going back and forth with Bestop over this issue. In my opinion there tops
a very poorly engineered. It took me 6 months before I finally got
Quatratec to admit that they new of these types of issues with Bestop. Some
of the salesmen even had these same issues with their own jeeps. After all
that, Bestop sent me a replacement top and guess what? The sent me a Bestop
instead of a Sunrider. That place is a mess! I would recomend to anyone
not to buy from bestop and by a factory replacement from Chrysler if they
can. Even if its twice the price you be glad you did. I also bought a pair
of "Sliders and the fit like ---- too. They sent me 3 sets and none of the
fit right or were the same fit as the previous set. My top comes apart all
the time at highway speeds. The velcro comes undone and I somtimes have to
pull off of the highway to re-attach it. A real peice of ----!



"Pete" <thompson@KILLBADSPAMwebprepared.com> wrote in message
news:vvlollitu6nqb2@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone had this experience with the Bestop supertop on a '97 & up TJ?

I
> installed the supertop on my '98 TJ and feel I followed the directions to
> the letter, however, the doors (OEM soft uppers) won't close flush. The

rod
> on the upper frame is hitting the bow assembly.
>
> The directions say "If necessary, adjust the Bow Mount Brackets installed

in
> Step 4 so that the doors fit properly." However, I don't see any way that
> these can be adjusted to allow a flush fit, unless you do what I have done
> and remove the front bolt from the bow mount bracket, push the bracket

back
> about an 1 1/2 inches (you will no longer be able to bolt the bracket to

the
> jeep body now), and allow the door upper to push the bow assembly rod back
> far enough to get a flush close on the door.
>
> If anyone has had any similar experiences with this top and can share
> anything useful, I would be a happy camper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>




twaldron 01-09-2004 08:06 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
The Mopar top from Chrysler IS MADE by Bestop.

Cliff wrote:
> Pete,

SNIP I would recomend to anyone
> not to buy from bestop and by a factory replacement from Chrysler if they
> can. Even if its twice the price you be glad you did.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 01-09-2004 08:06 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
The Mopar top from Chrysler IS MADE by Bestop.

Cliff wrote:
> Pete,

SNIP I would recomend to anyone
> not to buy from bestop and by a factory replacement from Chrysler if they
> can. Even if its twice the price you be glad you did.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 01-09-2004 08:06 PM

Re: Bestop SuperTop & bad fit with OEM soft uppers?
 
The Mopar top from Chrysler IS MADE by Bestop.

Cliff wrote:
> Pete,

SNIP I would recomend to anyone
> not to buy from bestop and by a factory replacement from Chrysler if they
> can. Even if its twice the price you be glad you did.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________



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