Re: Beating the heat
 

Hi Eric. I have the same problem here in Florida (summer= temp & humidity
> 90+ ).
I've got two little girls and what I call an "A/C girl" for a wife (You
know. The girl up the street that doesn't like to sweat?:) Anyways, for
what it's worth, I put on a hard top and leave the rear hatch open. Beyond
that, I'm putting in two, good automotive fans that I'll mount under the
roll bar. So long as the little tyke's hydrated (with water not milk),
they'll be in 1) shade & 2) breeze. Sure, they'll sweat but they'll be okay
in shorts and light, loose clothing. A spray bottle with ice water's a
great idea if you think you should stop and catch up with the heat too.
Someone else mentioned just tossing the towel and making it a husband/wife
thing. That's what I did. I figured that a toddler (my youngest) wouldn't
get anything out of the experience other than banging around in a hot car.
At that age, they haven't really entered the "adventuresome sidekick" phase
like my four year old. After eight months, you and your wife could probably
use the time alone to do whatever you want in the woods anyway. Haha!
Best Regards,
Drink
"Eric Bailey" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uTNMa.562835$vU3.373237@news1.central.cox.net ...
> Is there any way, aside from A/C, that you guys have figured out that
beats
> the heat out on the trails? My wife and son were looking forward to
coming
> along with me on a run this weekend to Tuttle Creek ORV park, however the
> heat is just going to be too much. Looks like 95 with a heat index close
to
> 100. Without A/C, that's just too much for my son (he's only 8 months
> old...).
>
> Any thoughts, other than A/C? If I decide to get A/C, I've noticed some
> suggesting to ONLY use the dealership. Does anyone know how much it costs
> to have it installed? I wouldn't use it much on a day-to-day basis, but
> part of the reason I got into this was it was something I could do with my
> family that we all enjoy.
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> TB Swap
> AirAid Intake
> 2" Lift
> The "it's way hot in here because I don't have A/C" mod.. ;-)
>
>

Re: Beating the heat
 

I had considered getting a babysitter, but we don't know too many people
around here we'd trust with him (or those that we do wouldn't want to take
him for an entire day...). Really, that's not a bad idea. Still, I may
need to get A/C anyway. I'm sweating like crazy in this thing (top up OR
down!).

Eric
"J. Drinkwater" <NOSPAMdrink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:vgbedmhumcbea5@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi Eric. I have the same problem here in Florida (summer= temp &
humidity
> > 90+ ).
> I've got two little girls and what I call an "A/C girl" for a wife (You
> know. The girl up the street that doesn't like to sweat?:) Anyways, for
> what it's worth, I put on a hard top and leave the rear hatch open.
Beyond
> that, I'm putting in two, good automotive fans that I'll mount under the
> roll bar. So long as the little tyke's hydrated (with water not milk),
> they'll be in 1) shade & 2) breeze. Sure, they'll sweat but they'll be
okay
> in shorts and light, loose clothing. A spray bottle with ice water's a
> great idea if you think you should stop and catch up with the heat too.
> Someone else mentioned just tossing the towel and making it a
husband/wife
> thing. That's what I did. I figured that a toddler (my youngest)
wouldn't
> get anything out of the experience other than banging around in a hot car.
> At that age, they haven't really entered the "adventuresome sidekick"
phase
> like my four year old. After eight months, you and your wife could
probably
> use the time alone to do whatever you want in the woods anyway. Haha!
> Best Regards,
> Drink
> "Eric Bailey" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:uTNMa.562835$vU3.373237@news1.central.cox.net ...
> > Is there any way, aside from A/C, that you guys have figured out that
> beats
> > the heat out on the trails? My wife and son were looking forward to
> coming
> > along with me on a run this weekend to Tuttle Creek ORV park, however
the
> > heat is just going to be too much. Looks like 95 with a heat index
close
> to
> > 100. Without A/C, that's just too much for my son (he's only 8 months
> > old...).
> >
> > Any thoughts, other than A/C? If I decide to get A/C, I've noticed some
> > suggesting to ONLY use the dealership. Does anyone know how much it
costs
> > to have it installed? I wouldn't use it much on a day-to-day basis, but
> > part of the reason I got into this was it was something I could do with
my
> > family that we all enjoy.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > TB Swap
> > AirAid Intake
> > 2" Lift
> > The "it's way hot in here because I don't have A/C" mod.. ;-)
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Beating the heat
 

"Eric Bailey" wrote ...
> I had considered getting a babysitter, but we don't know too many people
> around here we'd trust with him (or those that we do wouldn't want to take
> him for an entire day...). Really, that's not a bad idea. Still, I may
> need to get A/C anyway. I'm sweating like crazy in this thing (top up OR
> down!).

I've researched the issue quite a bit for my aircraft... I've given you all
the options that I've discovered so far... Considering how cheap A/C are for
cars (compared to aircraft), I would suggest going that route... If I could
get an A/C for my aircraft as cheap as is possible for a car, I would get
one immediately... As it is, I carry a cooler with me with a lot of ice...

Re: Beating the heat
 

I'm thinking a simple fan??? Do the safari mode thing with a couple of fans
to keep the breeze movin...lots of water and the occasional spritz with a
water bottle. Always worked for me, anyhow.

Jo
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JoRMa.40380$hV.2566257@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> "Eric Bailey" wrote ...
> > Is there any way, aside from A/C, that you guys have figured out that
> beats
> > the heat out on the trails?
>
> Well, at least you have the option of getting an A/C for your vehicle... I
> own an aircraft and there is no way to get an A/C put in it... Even if
there
> was a way it would be a $10K option... Damn... If you are just wanting the
> infant cooled, you have a little more options than cooling the entire
> vehicle... There are systems that utilize phase change polymer packs that
> will keep the core body temperature down to levels that are not
hazardous...
> They won't necessarily make you feel 'cool', but they will keep you from
> being introduced to Mr. Heatstroke... There are other systems that use ice
> bags, but cooling the skin that much is not recommended from what I
> understand... There are other systems that utilize a cooler of ice with a
> heat exchanger attached to it and a fan that blows across the heat
exchanger
> to transfer the heat of the vehicle to the ice pack... There is a pump
that
> circulates a coolant between the ice reservoir (Igloo type cooler usually)
> and the heat exchanger... In some cases, this coolant is just the melted
> ice... In others, they have a close loop coolant system with another heat
> exchanger in the ice reservoir... There are other systems where the
> occupants of the vehicle wear a certain type of vest (and possibly helmet)
> that has flexible tubing running through it where the coolant is pumped...
> These tend to be the most efficient on your ice usage from what I
> understand... If you are in a very dry environment, there are certain
types
> of evaporative coolers that can work... The portable Misty-Mate micro
> atomizing coolers can make a difference... In your case, you might want to
> use one filled with ice water to periodically spray on your infant...
>
>
>

Re: Beating the heat
 

Too bad you can't have a brewski with ya.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> I've researched the issue quite a bit for my aircraft... I've given you all
> the options that I've discovered so far... Considering how cheap A/C are for
> cars (compared to aircraft), I would suggest going that route... If I could
> get an A/C for my aircraft as cheap as is possible for a car, I would get
> one immediately... As it is, I carry a cooler with me with a lot of ice...

Re: Beating the heat
 

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 02:31:22 UTC "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote:

> "Eric Bailey" wrote ...
> > I had considered getting a babysitter, but we don't know too many people
> > around here we'd trust with him (or those that we do wouldn't want to take
> > him for an entire day...). Really, that's not a bad idea. Still, I may
> > need to get A/C anyway. I'm sweating like crazy in this thing (top up OR
> > down!).
>
> I've researched the issue quite a bit for my aircraft... I've given you all
> the options that I've discovered so far... Considering how cheap A/C are for
> cars (compared to aircraft), I would suggest going that route... If I could
> get an A/C for my aircraft as cheap as is possible for a car, I would get
> one immediately... As it is, I carry a cooler with me with a lot of ice...

Hell, just fly higher. Standard lapse rate makes it pretty
comfortable by the time you get to 6-8000 feet AGL. Also makes flying
downwind of feed lots a lot more pleasant.

Besides, they always told me that the big fan out front was there to
keep the pilot cool. For proof of that, just watch how the pilot
starts to sweat when the fan stops turning <g>.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Beating the heat
 

"Will Honea" wrote ...
> Hell, just fly higher. Standard lapse rate makes it pretty
> comfortable by the time you get to 6-8000 feet AGL.

Yeah, that works, but sometimes it takes 10,000 ft or so to get
comfortable... Flying higher is not always an option for a variety of
reasons... My aircraft is not that fast of a climber and I would need to be
on a pretty long flight before it makes it worthwhile to climb up that
high... If I'm only travelling 200 nm or so, I stay down low... Better
scenery that way anyway...

Re: Beating the heat
 

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:36:27 UTC "Grumman581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> "Will Honea" wrote ...
> > Hell, just fly higher. Standard lapse rate makes it pretty
> > comfortable by the time you get to 6-8000 feet AGL.
>
> Yeah, that works, but sometimes it takes 10,000 ft or so to get
> comfortable... Flying higher is not always an option for a variety of
> reasons... My aircraft is not that fast of a climber and I would need to be
> on a pretty long flight before it makes it worthwhile to climb up that
> high... If I'm only travelling 200 nm or so, I stay down low... Better
> scenery that way anyway...

Virtually all my prop time is/was out of Colorado Springs (USAF
Academy) so we got used to turning East - quick - after liftoff.
Going West is a minimum 8000' climb and summer flying frequently
involved runway density altitudes above the service ceiling <g>. I
flew the T-41's (Cessna 182 stripped for the military) into Ellington
a lot while I was at the Academy and that last 2000' was miserable
during the summers - I'm from Texas but I avoid Houston whenever
possible from mid-April until mid-November.

Nearly all the light SE and twins I flew up here were either turbos or
had fixed climb props on them for student training. Never flew any of
the Grummans but I thought that they were supposed to be pretty good
performers.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Beating the heat
 

I followed some advice from the JU board and found a site that sells the
whole kit with factory controls for about $750 shipped to your door. The
guy said it was an 8 - 10 hour job, but not that difficult. He said it was
more tedious than anything.

I'm seriously considering going that route. I haven't contacted any of the
local shops yet to see what they'll charge me. Of course, I'm sure they
can't beat that price, and besides, once I do the install it's just one more
thing I know how to do!

I'm going to be driving to Biloxi at the end of August (double whammy -- hot
here, hot there.. about a 14 hour drive) and staying there for a month. I'd
REALLY like to have A/C for the trip. I couldn't care less for when I get
there since I plan on taking the top and doors off for the month (assuming
not much rain..).

Thanks for the tips guys.

Eric
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:_LqNa.45308$xg5.8232@twister.austin.rr.com...
> "Eric Bailey" wrote ...
> > I had considered getting a babysitter, but we don't know too many people
> > around here we'd trust with him (or those that we do wouldn't want to
take
> > him for an entire day...). Really, that's not a bad idea. Still, I may
> > need to get A/C anyway. I'm sweating like crazy in this thing (top up
OR
> > down!).
>
> I've researched the issue quite a bit for my aircraft... I've given you
all
> the options that I've discovered so far... Considering how cheap A/C are
for
> cars (compared to aircraft), I would suggest going that route... If I
could
> get an A/C for my aircraft as cheap as is possible for a car, I would get
> one immediately... As it is, I carry a cooler with me with a lot of ice...
>
>

Re: Beating the heat
 

Post the link, please !

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Eric Bailey" <gymrat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iCHNa.613120$vU3.349822@news1.central.cox.net ...
: I followed some advice from the JU board and found a site that sells the
: whole kit with factory controls for about $750 shipped to your door. The
: guy said it was an 8 - 10 hour job, but not that difficult. He said it
was
: more tedious than anything.
:
: I'm seriously considering going that route. I haven't contacted any of
the
: local shops yet to see what they'll charge me. Of course, I'm sure they
: can't beat that price, and besides, once I do the install it's just one
more
: thing I know how to do!
:
: I'm going to be driving to Biloxi at the end of August (double whammy --
hot
: here, hot there.. about a 14 hour drive) and staying there for a month.
I'd
: REALLY like to have A/C for the trip. I couldn't care less for when I get
: there since I plan on taking the top and doors off for the month (assuming
: not much rain..).
:
: Thanks for the tips guys.
:
: Eric
: "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
message
: news:_LqNa.45308$xg5.8232@twister.austin.rr.com...
: > "Eric Bailey" wrote ...
: > > I had considered getting a babysitter, but we don't know too many
people
: > > around here we'd trust with him (or those that we do wouldn't want to
: take
: > > him for an entire day...). Really, that's not a bad idea. Still, I
may
: > > need to get A/C anyway. I'm sweating like crazy in this thing (top up
: OR
: > > down!).
: >
: > I've researched the issue quite a bit for my aircraft... I've given you
: all
: > the options that I've discovered so far... Considering how cheap A/C are
: for
: > cars (compared to aircraft), I would suggest going that route... If I
: could
: > get an A/C for my aircraft as cheap as is possible for a car, I would
get
: > one immediately... As it is, I carry a cooler with me with a lot of
ice...
: >
: >
:
: