Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.

For our 2001 GC,
it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
with one maybe just going down to the frame,
but not sure where the other goes.
I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.

For our 2001 GC,
it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
with one maybe just going down to the frame,
but not sure where the other goes.
I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.

For our 2001 GC,
it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
with one maybe just going down to the frame,
but not sure where the other goes.
I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

if its just discolored don't worry about it. copper does that, and will
actually turn a greenish color over time. also, to clean copper, if you get
a good solder paste flux, and dip it in that, let it sit for 10-20 min and
rinse it off real good, it will clean it right up. I really wouldn't worry
about it and just tighten it, and then double check it in a few days, maybe
retighten again.

P.Schuman wrote:
>the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.
>
>For our 2001 GC,
>it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
>with one maybe just going down to the frame,
>but not sure where the other goes.
>I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
>and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

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Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

if its just discolored don't worry about it. copper does that, and will
actually turn a greenish color over time. also, to clean copper, if you get
a good solder paste flux, and dip it in that, let it sit for 10-20 min and
rinse it off real good, it will clean it right up. I really wouldn't worry
about it and just tighten it, and then double check it in a few days, maybe
retighten again.

P.Schuman wrote:
>the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.
>
>For our 2001 GC,
>it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
>with one maybe just going down to the frame,
>but not sure where the other goes.
>I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
>and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

--
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Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

if its just discolored don't worry about it. copper does that, and will
actually turn a greenish color over time. also, to clean copper, if you get
a good solder paste flux, and dip it in that, let it sit for 10-20 min and
rinse it off real good, it will clean it right up. I really wouldn't worry
about it and just tighten it, and then double check it in a few days, maybe
retighten again.

P.Schuman wrote:
>the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.
>
>For our 2001 GC,
>it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
>with one maybe just going down to the frame,
>but not sure where the other goes.
>I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
>and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

--
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Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

if its just discolored don't worry about it. copper does that, and will
actually turn a greenish color over time. also, to clean copper, if you get
a good solder paste flux, and dip it in that, let it sit for 10-20 min and
rinse it off real good, it will clean it right up. I really wouldn't worry
about it and just tighten it, and then double check it in a few days, maybe
retighten again.

P.Schuman wrote:
>the copper is just the usual discoloration - no white powder.
>
>For our 2001 GC,
>it appears there are 2 black (negative) cables in the bundle,
>with one maybe just going down to the frame,
>but not sure where the other goes.
>I did tighten both lockdown screws on the clamp, and all is well - for now -
>and I may go look for another clamp/strap connector to try again.

--
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Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

Those saddle clamps are only good for about a year before they need
service, even with dielectric grease on them. They make different
quality or strength ones including brass ones.

If I leave mine for two years, I get a failure. I use a wire brush on a
drill to polish back up the copper cable strands, then I re-twist them
and coat them with dielectric grease again once clamped down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

P.Schuman wrote:
> when our son got home with the GC,
> we went looking around for any cause for our recent problems
> with the tailgate - like a simple fuse -
>
> In doing so - we stumbled across another challenge - NO power -
>
> Awhile ago, we had lost electric power while driving,
> as the dashboard was flickering and the volts was like ZERO.
> So - we drove directly to the local dealer thinking the worst.
>
> As it turned out, the negative battery connector was cracked.
> They snipped off the molded connector, stripped the 2 large wires,
> and replaced it with a screw down saddle connector,
> (the wires go in and there is a strap across them that screws down on each side)
>
> Well - today - the wires were a little loose,
> hence the loss of total DC electrical power while we were poking around.
>
> Not sure of the remedy on this....
> There is 1/2" of copper (now tarnished)
> inside the strap connector,
> and another 1/2" of insulation until the large wrapped "bundle".
>
> SO - any suggestions on how to clean up the existing 1/2" copper
> and use the same type or different connector to get a really solid grip ?
>
>
>

Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

Those saddle clamps are only good for about a year before they need
service, even with dielectric grease on them. They make different
quality or strength ones including brass ones.

If I leave mine for two years, I get a failure. I use a wire brush on a
drill to polish back up the copper cable strands, then I re-twist them
and coat them with dielectric grease again once clamped down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

P.Schuman wrote:
> when our son got home with the GC,
> we went looking around for any cause for our recent problems
> with the tailgate - like a simple fuse -
>
> In doing so - we stumbled across another challenge - NO power -
>
> Awhile ago, we had lost electric power while driving,
> as the dashboard was flickering and the volts was like ZERO.
> So - we drove directly to the local dealer thinking the worst.
>
> As it turned out, the negative battery connector was cracked.
> They snipped off the molded connector, stripped the 2 large wires,
> and replaced it with a screw down saddle connector,
> (the wires go in and there is a strap across them that screws down on each side)
>
> Well - today - the wires were a little loose,
> hence the loss of total DC electrical power while we were poking around.
>
> Not sure of the remedy on this....
> There is 1/2" of copper (now tarnished)
> inside the strap connector,
> and another 1/2" of insulation until the large wrapped "bundle".
>
> SO - any suggestions on how to clean up the existing 1/2" copper
> and use the same type or different connector to get a really solid grip ?
>
>
>

Re: battery strap connection - options?
 

Those saddle clamps are only good for about a year before they need
service, even with dielectric grease on them. They make different
quality or strength ones including brass ones.

If I leave mine for two years, I get a failure. I use a wire brush on a
drill to polish back up the copper cable strands, then I re-twist them
and coat them with dielectric grease again once clamped down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

P.Schuman wrote:
> when our son got home with the GC,
> we went looking around for any cause for our recent problems
> with the tailgate - like a simple fuse -
>
> In doing so - we stumbled across another challenge - NO power -
>
> Awhile ago, we had lost electric power while driving,
> as the dashboard was flickering and the volts was like ZERO.
> So - we drove directly to the local dealer thinking the worst.
>
> As it turned out, the negative battery connector was cracked.
> They snipped off the molded connector, stripped the 2 large wires,
> and replaced it with a screw down saddle connector,
> (the wires go in and there is a strap across them that screws down on each side)
>
> Well - today - the wires were a little loose,
> hence the loss of total DC electrical power while we were poking around.
>
> Not sure of the remedy on this....
> There is 1/2" of copper (now tarnished)
> inside the strap connector,
> and another 1/2" of insulation until the large wrapped "bundle".
>
> SO - any suggestions on how to clean up the existing 1/2" copper
> and use the same type or different connector to get a really solid grip ?
>
>
>