Re: Battery situation
 

I'm still considering replacement but not from Sears. Diehard batteries
ranked 9th and 11th out of 11 in the Group 65 size in the November 2005
Consumer's Report.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TrmdnX_4SLK9yGvZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6 amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged) and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed
>> in the green the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging
>> to spec, voltage correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> At 4 years, I'd replace the battery. Diehard SUV or Optima Red. Both
> cheaper than about 1 hour of your time screwing around with it.
>
>
>

Re: Battery situation
 

I'm still considering replacement but not from Sears. Diehard batteries
ranked 9th and 11th out of 11 in the Group 65 size in the November 2005
Consumer's Report.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TrmdnX_4SLK9yGvZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6 amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged) and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed
>> in the green the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging
>> to spec, voltage correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> At 4 years, I'd replace the battery. Diehard SUV or Optima Red. Both
> cheaper than about 1 hour of your time screwing around with it.
>
>
>

Re: Battery situation
 

I'm still considering replacement but not from Sears. Diehard batteries
ranked 9th and 11th out of 11 in the Group 65 size in the November 2005
Consumer's Report.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TrmdnX_4SLK9yGvZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6 amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged) and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed
>> in the green the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging
>> to spec, voltage correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> At 4 years, I'd replace the battery. Diehard SUV or Optima Red. Both
> cheaper than about 1 hour of your time screwing around with it.
>
>
>

Re: Battery situation
 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

Re: Battery situation
 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

Re: Battery situation
 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

Re: Battery situation
 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

Re: Battery situation
 

I decided not to trust it either...

I got an Everstart Maxx from Wal-Mart to replace it.

FWIW: After I got home I decided to check the electrolyte level and all six
cells were low. It took 11 ounces of distilled water to get them up to the
split rings.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F6E8D6.32E14FB1@sympatico.ca...
>I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
> battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
> would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click
>> from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6
>> amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a
>> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged)
>> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the
>> green
>> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec,
>> voltage
>> correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time
>> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?

Re: Battery situation
 

I decided not to trust it either...

I got an Everstart Maxx from Wal-Mart to replace it.

FWIW: After I got home I decided to check the electrolyte level and all six
cells were low. It took 11 ounces of distilled water to get them up to the
split rings.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F6E8D6.32E14FB1@sympatico.ca...
>I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
> battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
> would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click
>> from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6
>> amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a
>> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged)
>> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the
>> green
>> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec,
>> voltage
>> correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time
>> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?

Re: Battery situation
 

I decided not to trust it either...

I got an Everstart Maxx from Wal-Mart to replace it.

FWIW: After I got home I decided to check the electrolyte level and all six
cells were low. It took 11 ounces of distilled water to get them up to the
split rings.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F6E8D6.32E14FB1@sympatico.ca...
>I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
> battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
> would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click
>> from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6
>> amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a
>> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged)
>> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the
>> green
>> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec,
>> voltage
>> correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time
>> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?