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ltkaknm@gmail.com 09-21-2006 08:20 AM

Battery for 90 XJ
 
Hello all,

I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery

I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?

Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
appreciate any advice

Thanks,

LTK


billy ray 09-21-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Consumer Reports rated batteries last November. They did not rate Group 58,
can you fit a 65?


<ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158841258.248806.141060@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
> do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
> Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>
> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>
> Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
> appreciate any advice
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
>




billy ray 09-21-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Consumer Reports rated batteries last November. They did not rate Group 58,
can you fit a 65?


<ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158841258.248806.141060@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
> do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
> Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>
> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>
> Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
> appreciate any advice
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
>




billy ray 09-21-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Consumer Reports rated batteries last November. They did not rate Group 58,
can you fit a 65?


<ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158841258.248806.141060@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
> do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
> Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>
> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>
> Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
> appreciate any advice
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
>




DougW 09-21-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
ltkaknm wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best.
> I do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system
> is a Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery


I use the largest and highest CCA battery with the longest waranty
that PepBoys sells. Reason is the stores are all over so replacement
isn't a problem. I also pull quite a bit from the battery. :) see .sig.
pics of the system are actually on the supercharge page.

> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?


Stay away from them. If they were any good for your engine they
would be included in the oil to begin with.

I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState rebranded.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 09-21-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
ltkaknm wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best.
> I do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system
> is a Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery


I use the largest and highest CCA battery with the longest waranty
that PepBoys sells. Reason is the stores are all over so replacement
isn't a problem. I also pull quite a bit from the battery. :) see .sig.
pics of the system are actually on the supercharge page.

> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?


Stay away from them. If they were any good for your engine they
would be included in the oil to begin with.

I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState rebranded.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 09-21-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
ltkaknm wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best.
> I do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system
> is a Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery


I use the largest and highest CCA battery with the longest waranty
that PepBoys sells. Reason is the stores are all over so replacement
isn't a problem. I also pull quite a bit from the battery. :) see .sig.
pics of the system are actually on the supercharge page.

> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?


Stay away from them. If they were any good for your engine they
would be included in the oil to begin with.

I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState rebranded.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Noneyabusiness 09-21-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
On 21 Sep 2006 05:20:58 -0700, ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>


I've always used Die Hards.
My last one lasted EIGHT years.

Some people swear by Optima batteries, cuz they're hard to kill.

>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?


I've never had a problem NOT using additives ;-)
Just change it before it goes bad ;-p

(yes, I know, I'm an emoticonaholic)

>
>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>appreciate any advice
>
>Thanks,
>
>LTK


....

Noneyabusiness 09-21-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
On 21 Sep 2006 05:20:58 -0700, ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>


I've always used Die Hards.
My last one lasted EIGHT years.

Some people swear by Optima batteries, cuz they're hard to kill.

>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?


I've never had a problem NOT using additives ;-)
Just change it before it goes bad ;-p

(yes, I know, I'm an emoticonaholic)

>
>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>appreciate any advice
>
>Thanks,
>
>LTK


....

Noneyabusiness 09-21-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
On 21 Sep 2006 05:20:58 -0700, ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>


I've always used Die Hards.
My last one lasted EIGHT years.

Some people swear by Optima batteries, cuz they're hard to kill.

>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?


I've never had a problem NOT using additives ;-)
Just change it before it goes bad ;-p

(yes, I know, I'm an emoticonaholic)

>
>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>appreciate any advice
>
>Thanks,
>
>LTK


....

billy ray 09-22-2006 12:45 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 

Doug, What weight do you run?

>
> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState rebranded.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




billy ray 09-22-2006 12:45 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 

Doug, What weight do you run?

>
> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState rebranded.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




billy ray 09-22-2006 12:45 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 

Doug, What weight do you run?

>
> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState rebranded.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




DougW 09-22-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
billy ray wrote:
> Doug, What weight do you run?


about 189 but I'm trying to cut back.

...oh..

10W30

:)

>> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState
>> rebranded. --
>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!





DougW 09-22-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
billy ray wrote:
> Doug, What weight do you run?


about 189 but I'm trying to cut back.

...oh..

10W30

:)

>> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState
>> rebranded. --
>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!





DougW 09-22-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
billy ray wrote:
> Doug, What weight do you run?


about 189 but I'm trying to cut back.

...oh..

10W30

:)

>> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState
>> rebranded. --
>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!





billy ray 09-22-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
I wish I was 189.
I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"

I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time, probably no
real reason to though..

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:udSQg.4409$iA5.4366@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
>> Doug, What weight do you run?

>
> about 189 but I'm trying to cut back.
>
> ..oh..
>
> 10W30
>
> :)
>
>>> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState
>>> rebranded. --
>>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

>
>
>





billy ray 09-22-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
I wish I was 189.
I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"

I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time, probably no
real reason to though..

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:udSQg.4409$iA5.4366@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
>> Doug, What weight do you run?

>
> about 189 but I'm trying to cut back.
>
> ..oh..
>
> 10W30
>
> :)
>
>>> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState
>>> rebranded. --
>>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

>
>
>





billy ray 09-22-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
I wish I was 189.
I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"

I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time, probably no
real reason to though..

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:udSQg.4409$iA5.4366@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
>> Doug, What weight do you run?

>
> about 189 but I'm trying to cut back.
>
> ..oh..
>
> 10W30
>
> :)
>
>>> I run WallyWorld pure synthetic, which is basically QuakerState
>>> rebranded. --
>>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
>>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

>
>
>





DougW 09-22-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
billy ray wrote:
> I wish I was 189.
> I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>
> I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
> probably no real reason to though..


The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
temperature.

I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
didn't have any problem with oil pressure.



DougW 09-22-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
billy ray wrote:
> I wish I was 189.
> I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>
> I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
> probably no real reason to though..


The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
temperature.

I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
didn't have any problem with oil pressure.



DougW 09-22-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
billy ray wrote:
> I wish I was 189.
> I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>
> I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
> probably no real reason to though..


The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
temperature.

I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
didn't have any problem with oil pressure.



billy ray 09-22-2006 12:35 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
I ran across this a while back when looking at API info.

If you want to see who holds the API license on your favorite brand of motor
oil see, this is a large page and takes a bit to load:

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames

There is lots of interesting info in its 215 pages including that only 5 of
Amsoil's oils have API certification and in another area the cost of
certification is quite low.....$850 for members and $1050 for non members
and $0.0015 per gallon AFTER the first million gallons.

I recently installed a Wal-Mart EverStart Maxx battery it has a 3 year free
replacement warranty and was rated by Consumer Reports in the top 3 in all
the sizes tested.

I've not used any oil additives in ..... hmmmmm.... at least a decade, maybe
two....

If you are thinking that you have sludge, gum, varnish, or just plain
schmutz (dirt that moves) you might try switching to synthetic oil as it has
a higher cleaning ability than dino spit or diesel motor oil. The diesel
oil will perform more thorough cleaning and do it faster. You may want to
replace the filter (only) part way through the oil change interval.

Rotella T, Delo, and Delvac are made from Group III base oil which is
superior to the Group I and II used for most automobile motor oils and MUCH
higher levels of detergents. All are available in 10w-30 if you want to
stay in that grade or in 5w- if you go to synthetic (Group IV) base.

Before you replace your injectors you should try cleaning them first. There
are a few cleaners that I have used and have confidence in including
Berryman B12 Chemtool, BG44K, SeaFoam, and Techron Cleaner Concentrate (not
cleaner with Techron which is diluted stuff)

This procedure came from Pat Goss on Motor Week,

Add a can to a full tank of gasoline, run that tank until it is as low as
you dare drive, refill with just gasoline and run that tank until it is as
low as you dare drive, then repeat the next tank with one of the above
cleaners and run that tank until it is as low as you dare drive.

You may want to add one of the cleaners once or twice a year and run that
tank until it is as low as you dare drive to keep the injectors clean.

The gasoline companies now are required to add cleaner to their gas but most
only allow the minimum amount allowed by law.

Anyone interested in a copy of the motor oil report, or the newest Consumer
Reports report on batteries or on car wax send me an e-address where you can
receive attachments



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fpTQg.4414$iA5.2272@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
>> I wish I was 189.
>> I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>>
>> I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
>> probably no real reason to though..

>
> The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
> oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
> that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
> is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
> at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
> temperature.
>
> I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
> didn't have any problem with oil pressure.
>




billy ray 09-22-2006 12:35 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
I ran across this a while back when looking at API info.

If you want to see who holds the API license on your favorite brand of motor
oil see, this is a large page and takes a bit to load:

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames

There is lots of interesting info in its 215 pages including that only 5 of
Amsoil's oils have API certification and in another area the cost of
certification is quite low.....$850 for members and $1050 for non members
and $0.0015 per gallon AFTER the first million gallons.

I recently installed a Wal-Mart EverStart Maxx battery it has a 3 year free
replacement warranty and was rated by Consumer Reports in the top 3 in all
the sizes tested.

I've not used any oil additives in ..... hmmmmm.... at least a decade, maybe
two....

If you are thinking that you have sludge, gum, varnish, or just plain
schmutz (dirt that moves) you might try switching to synthetic oil as it has
a higher cleaning ability than dino spit or diesel motor oil. The diesel
oil will perform more thorough cleaning and do it faster. You may want to
replace the filter (only) part way through the oil change interval.

Rotella T, Delo, and Delvac are made from Group III base oil which is
superior to the Group I and II used for most automobile motor oils and MUCH
higher levels of detergents. All are available in 10w-30 if you want to
stay in that grade or in 5w- if you go to synthetic (Group IV) base.

Before you replace your injectors you should try cleaning them first. There
are a few cleaners that I have used and have confidence in including
Berryman B12 Chemtool, BG44K, SeaFoam, and Techron Cleaner Concentrate (not
cleaner with Techron which is diluted stuff)

This procedure came from Pat Goss on Motor Week,

Add a can to a full tank of gasoline, run that tank until it is as low as
you dare drive, refill with just gasoline and run that tank until it is as
low as you dare drive, then repeat the next tank with one of the above
cleaners and run that tank until it is as low as you dare drive.

You may want to add one of the cleaners once or twice a year and run that
tank until it is as low as you dare drive to keep the injectors clean.

The gasoline companies now are required to add cleaner to their gas but most
only allow the minimum amount allowed by law.

Anyone interested in a copy of the motor oil report, or the newest Consumer
Reports report on batteries or on car wax send me an e-address where you can
receive attachments



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fpTQg.4414$iA5.2272@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
>> I wish I was 189.
>> I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>>
>> I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
>> probably no real reason to though..

>
> The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
> oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
> that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
> is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
> at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
> temperature.
>
> I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
> didn't have any problem with oil pressure.
>




billy ray 09-22-2006 12:35 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
I ran across this a while back when looking at API info.

If you want to see who holds the API license on your favorite brand of motor
oil see, this is a large page and takes a bit to load:

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames

There is lots of interesting info in its 215 pages including that only 5 of
Amsoil's oils have API certification and in another area the cost of
certification is quite low.....$850 for members and $1050 for non members
and $0.0015 per gallon AFTER the first million gallons.

I recently installed a Wal-Mart EverStart Maxx battery it has a 3 year free
replacement warranty and was rated by Consumer Reports in the top 3 in all
the sizes tested.

I've not used any oil additives in ..... hmmmmm.... at least a decade, maybe
two....

If you are thinking that you have sludge, gum, varnish, or just plain
schmutz (dirt that moves) you might try switching to synthetic oil as it has
a higher cleaning ability than dino spit or diesel motor oil. The diesel
oil will perform more thorough cleaning and do it faster. You may want to
replace the filter (only) part way through the oil change interval.

Rotella T, Delo, and Delvac are made from Group III base oil which is
superior to the Group I and II used for most automobile motor oils and MUCH
higher levels of detergents. All are available in 10w-30 if you want to
stay in that grade or in 5w- if you go to synthetic (Group IV) base.

Before you replace your injectors you should try cleaning them first. There
are a few cleaners that I have used and have confidence in including
Berryman B12 Chemtool, BG44K, SeaFoam, and Techron Cleaner Concentrate (not
cleaner with Techron which is diluted stuff)

This procedure came from Pat Goss on Motor Week,

Add a can to a full tank of gasoline, run that tank until it is as low as
you dare drive, refill with just gasoline and run that tank until it is as
low as you dare drive, then repeat the next tank with one of the above
cleaners and run that tank until it is as low as you dare drive.

You may want to add one of the cleaners once or twice a year and run that
tank until it is as low as you dare drive to keep the injectors clean.

The gasoline companies now are required to add cleaner to their gas but most
only allow the minimum amount allowed by law.

Anyone interested in a copy of the motor oil report, or the newest Consumer
Reports report on batteries or on car wax send me an e-address where you can
receive attachments



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:fpTQg.4414$iA5.2272@dukeread11...
> billy ray wrote:
>> I wish I was 189.
>> I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>>
>> I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
>> probably no real reason to though..

>
> The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
> oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
> that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
> is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
> at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
> temperature.
>
> I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
> didn't have any problem with oil pressure.
>




Lon 09-23-2006 01:48 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 

Do you live near the San Francisco Bay Area? I could make you a real
deal on a new SUV DieHard as long as you use the same one that fits the
1995 Grand Cherokee. How much? If you are married, think of having a
spare battery sitting around where your wife can see it.

ltkaknm@gmail.com proclaimed:

> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
> do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
> Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>
> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>
> Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
> appreciate any advice
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
>


Lon 09-23-2006 01:48 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 

Do you live near the San Francisco Bay Area? I could make you a real
deal on a new SUV DieHard as long as you use the same one that fits the
1995 Grand Cherokee. How much? If you are married, think of having a
spare battery sitting around where your wife can see it.

ltkaknm@gmail.com proclaimed:

> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
> do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
> Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>
> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>
> Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
> appreciate any advice
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
>


Lon 09-23-2006 01:48 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 

Do you live near the San Francisco Bay Area? I could make you a real
deal on a new SUV DieHard as long as you use the same one that fits the
1995 Grand Cherokee. How much? If you are married, think of having a
spare battery sitting around where your wife can see it.

ltkaknm@gmail.com proclaimed:

> Hello all,
>
> I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
> any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
> do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
> Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>
> I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
> possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
> Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>
> Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
> appreciate any advice
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
>


Lon 09-23-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
It is possible that in their history Consumer Distorts has never screwed
up a comparison test or ratings, but I seriously cannot remember one on
any subject where I actually knew something about the brands or
technologies involved.


billy ray proclaimed:

> Consumer Reports rated batteries last November. They did not rate Group 58,
> can you fit a 65?
>
>
> <ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158841258.248806.141060@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>>
>>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>>
>>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>>appreciate any advice
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>LTK
>>

>
>
>


Lon 09-23-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
It is possible that in their history Consumer Distorts has never screwed
up a comparison test or ratings, but I seriously cannot remember one on
any subject where I actually knew something about the brands or
technologies involved.


billy ray proclaimed:

> Consumer Reports rated batteries last November. They did not rate Group 58,
> can you fit a 65?
>
>
> <ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158841258.248806.141060@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>>
>>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>>
>>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>>appreciate any advice
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>LTK
>>

>
>
>


Lon 09-23-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
It is possible that in their history Consumer Distorts has never screwed
up a comparison test or ratings, but I seriously cannot remember one on
any subject where I actually knew something about the brands or
technologies involved.


billy ray proclaimed:

> Consumer Reports rated batteries last November. They did not rate Group 58,
> can you fit a 65?
>
>
> <ltkaknm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158841258.248806.141060@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>>
>>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?
>>
>>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>>appreciate any advice
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>LTK
>>

>
>
>


Lon 09-23-2006 02:00 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
DougW proclaimed:

> billy ray wrote:
>
>>I wish I was 189.
>>I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>>
>>I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
>>probably no real reason to though..

>
>
> The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
> oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
> that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
> is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
> at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
> temperature.
>
> I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
> didn't have any problem with oil pressure.
>
>

How much extra do they charge for synth?
Local dealer offers 24.95 for oil and filter changes plus a brief one
millisecond long "total vehicle inspection" but will upgrade that to
synth blend for $5 extra.


Lon 09-23-2006 02:00 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
DougW proclaimed:

> billy ray wrote:
>
>>I wish I was 189.
>>I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>>
>>I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
>>probably no real reason to though..

>
>
> The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
> oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
> that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
> is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
> at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
> temperature.
>
> I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
> didn't have any problem with oil pressure.
>
>

How much extra do they charge for synth?
Local dealer offers 24.95 for oil and filter changes plus a brief one
millisecond long "total vehicle inspection" but will upgrade that to
synth blend for $5 extra.


Lon 09-23-2006 02:00 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
DougW proclaimed:

> billy ray wrote:
>
>>I wish I was 189.
>>I'd be normal weight if I was 6' 8"
>>
>>I was thinking about dropping down to 5w for the winter time,
>>probably no real reason to though..

>
>
> The Jeep currently has 5W30 in it. A local dealership had a cheap
> oil change going on and I didn't notice what they put in till later
> that day. I haven't had any problems with the oil even though 5w30
> is more for freezing and below. both 10W30 and 5W30 are 30 weight
> at operating temperature, the 5 just means it flows better at lower
> temperature.
>
> I have had the Jeep in 10-20 below weather with 10W30 synthetic and
> didn't have any problem with oil pressure.
>
>

How much extra do they charge for synth?
Local dealer offers 24.95 for oil and filter changes plus a brief one
millisecond long "total vehicle inspection" but will upgrade that to
synth blend for $5 extra.


Lon 09-23-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Noneyabusiness proclaimed:

> On 21 Sep 2006 05:20:58 -0700, ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>>

>
>
> I've always used Die Hards.
> My last one lasted EIGHT years.


I've used Die Hards mainly because I usually live near a good big Sears
store and if it does hiccup I can get it replaced pretty much anywhere
in the USofA. And because I usually buy a new one every 4-5 years by
watching for them to go on sale at about 4 years of service. Plus they
do a charge check for free if you tell them the vehicle had to be
jumpstarted. Other than that, there are several other good brands that
tend not to fall apart too often.

>
> Some people swear by Optima batteries, cuz they're hard to kill.


Only a bit more expensive than the Die Hards at the Sears around here.
If I was feelthy rich enough to spend more time on the trails and used
the laptop and cooler more, would probably spend the extra 10 bucks.

>>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?

>
>
> I've never had a problem NOT using additives ;-)
> Just change it before it goes bad ;-p
>
> (yes, I know, I'm an emoticonaholic)
>
>
>>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>>appreciate any advice
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>LTK

>
>
> ...


Lon 09-23-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Noneyabusiness proclaimed:

> On 21 Sep 2006 05:20:58 -0700, ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>>

>
>
> I've always used Die Hards.
> My last one lasted EIGHT years.


I've used Die Hards mainly because I usually live near a good big Sears
store and if it does hiccup I can get it replaced pretty much anywhere
in the USofA. And because I usually buy a new one every 4-5 years by
watching for them to go on sale at about 4 years of service. Plus they
do a charge check for free if you tell them the vehicle had to be
jumpstarted. Other than that, there are several other good brands that
tend not to fall apart too often.

>
> Some people swear by Optima batteries, cuz they're hard to kill.


Only a bit more expensive than the Die Hards at the Sears around here.
If I was feelthy rich enough to spend more time on the trails and used
the laptop and cooler more, would probably spend the extra 10 bucks.

>>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?

>
>
> I've never had a problem NOT using additives ;-)
> Just change it before it goes bad ;-p
>
> (yes, I know, I'm an emoticonaholic)
>
>
>>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>>appreciate any advice
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>LTK

>
>
> ...


Lon 09-23-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Noneyabusiness proclaimed:

> On 21 Sep 2006 05:20:58 -0700, ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am going to replace my battery soon and wondered if any of you had
>>any suggestions on a type or brand of battery that would be the best. I
>>do not do much off road and the only addition I have to my system is a
>>Boston Acoustics amplifier going directly to my battery
>>

>
>
> I've always used Die Hards.
> My last one lasted EIGHT years.


I've used Die Hards mainly because I usually live near a good big Sears
store and if it does hiccup I can get it replaced pretty much anywhere
in the USofA. And because I usually buy a new one every 4-5 years by
watching for them to go on sale at about 4 years of service. Plus they
do a charge check for free if you tell them the vehicle had to be
jumpstarted. Other than that, there are several other good brands that
tend not to fall apart too often.

>
> Some people swear by Optima batteries, cuz they're hard to kill.


Only a bit more expensive than the Die Hards at the Sears around here.
If I was feelthy rich enough to spend more time on the trails and used
the laptop and cooler more, would probably spend the extra 10 bucks.

>>I am also going to change my oil from Quaker State 4x4 synthetic to
>>possibly Chevron. Any suggestions on oil or oil additives such as
>>Lucas and Marvel Mystery Oil?

>
>
> I've never had a problem NOT using additives ;-)
> Just change it before it goes bad ;-p
>
> (yes, I know, I'm an emoticonaholic)
>
>
>>Finally, I also might be changing my Fuel Injectors and would
>>appreciate any advice
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>LTK

>
>
> ...


DougW 09-23-2006 05:29 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Lon wrote:

> How much extra do they charge for synth?
> Local dealer offers 24.95 for oil and filter changes plus a brief one
> millisecond long "total vehicle inspection" but will upgrade that to
> synth blend for $5 extra.


Didn't ask. The coupon was for a $15 oil change and I usually run
dino for about 2000 miles then drain and put in synthetic myself.
I basically use the dealership offer like a cheap oil flush by
dropping in some seafoam just before I drive it to get serviced.

--
DougW



DougW 09-23-2006 05:29 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Lon wrote:

> How much extra do they charge for synth?
> Local dealer offers 24.95 for oil and filter changes plus a brief one
> millisecond long "total vehicle inspection" but will upgrade that to
> synth blend for $5 extra.


Didn't ask. The coupon was for a $15 oil change and I usually run
dino for about 2000 miles then drain and put in synthetic myself.
I basically use the dealership offer like a cheap oil flush by
dropping in some seafoam just before I drive it to get serviced.

--
DougW



DougW 09-23-2006 05:29 PM

Re: Battery for 90 XJ
 
Lon wrote:

> How much extra do they charge for synth?
> Local dealer offers 24.95 for oil and filter changes plus a brief one
> millisecond long "total vehicle inspection" but will upgrade that to
> synth blend for $5 extra.


Didn't ask. The coupon was for a $15 oil change and I usually run
dino for about 2000 miles then drain and put in synthetic myself.
I basically use the dealership offer like a cheap oil flush by
dropping in some seafoam just before I drive it to get serviced.

--
DougW




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