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Matt 08-26-2004 02:54 PM

Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
Hey everybody,

I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
ever.
Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
here. :)


Thanks in advance,

Matt

IsellJeeps 08-26-2004 03:11 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
you need new tires... they are cupped
I have had this happen on many occasions on used jeeps I have bought. They
can have a lot of tread left and look OK but they are cupped due to not
rotating correctly.


"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a3f4978.0408261054.71a4e2c6@posting.google.c om...
> Hey everybody,
>
> I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> ever.
> Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> here. :)
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt




IsellJeeps 08-26-2004 03:11 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
you need new tires... they are cupped
I have had this happen on many occasions on used jeeps I have bought. They
can have a lot of tread left and look OK but they are cupped due to not
rotating correctly.


"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a3f4978.0408261054.71a4e2c6@posting.google.c om...
> Hey everybody,
>
> I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> ever.
> Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> here. :)
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt




IsellJeeps 08-26-2004 03:11 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
you need new tires... they are cupped
I have had this happen on many occasions on used jeeps I have bought. They
can have a lot of tread left and look OK but they are cupped due to not
rotating correctly.


"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a3f4978.0408261054.71a4e2c6@posting.google.c om...
> Hey everybody,
>
> I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> ever.
> Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> here. :)
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-26-2004 03:43 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
You need a new steering stabilizer shock absorber:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...X/appId-204797
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hey everybody,
>
> I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> ever.
> Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> here. :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-26-2004 03:43 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
You need a new steering stabilizer shock absorber:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...X/appId-204797
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hey everybody,
>
> I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> ever.
> Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> here. :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-26-2004 03:43 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
You need a new steering stabilizer shock absorber:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...X/appId-204797
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt wrote:
>
> Hey everybody,
>
> I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> ever.
> Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> here. :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt


Mike Romain 08-26-2004 04:01 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
And you need to check the tires for round and any bushing in the control
arms or track bar for play.

A worn out steering shock will allow the 'death wobble' to happen, but
usually some part or tire is marginal to set it off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You need a new steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...X/appId-204797
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > Hey everybody,
> >
> > I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> > TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> > it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> > cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> > a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> > tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> > but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> > They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> > two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> > ever.
> > Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> > Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> > work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> > everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> > 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> > here. :)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Matt


Mike Romain 08-26-2004 04:01 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
And you need to check the tires for round and any bushing in the control
arms or track bar for play.

A worn out steering shock will allow the 'death wobble' to happen, but
usually some part or tire is marginal to set it off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You need a new steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...X/appId-204797
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > Hey everybody,
> >
> > I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> > TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> > it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> > cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> > a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> > tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> > but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> > They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> > two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> > ever.
> > Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> > Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> > work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> > everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> > 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> > here. :)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Matt


Mike Romain 08-26-2004 04:01 PM

Re: Bad wobble-'99 TJ (NOT balance related!)
 
And you need to check the tires for round and any bushing in the control
arms or track bar for play.

A worn out steering shock will allow the 'death wobble' to happen, but
usually some part or tire is marginal to set it off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You need a new steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...X/appId-204797
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > Hey everybody,
> >
> > I tried Googling this first, but couldn't get an answer. I have a '99
> > TJ Sport with 31" muds on it. Between the speed ranges of 48-52 MPH,
> > it wobbles so badly that the CD player skips and soda spills out of
> > cans in the cup holder(like 4 or 5 inches either way). Thinking it was
> > a balance or camber or toe-in or something problem, I took it to a
> > tire/alignment shop. They checked the balance, etc. and it was fine,
> > but said "carrier bolts" had been really loose and tightened them.
> > They didn't charge me, either :) It fixed the problem for a day or
> > two, but I took a long highway drive and now it's back-worse than
> > ever.
> > Questions: is this something I can tighten the hell out of and
> > Loc-Tite? Is the existing condition dangerous? (I just go faster and
> > work through the shimmy). The Jeep's never been in an accident and
> > everything's properly maintained, except I was a little late in the
> > 60,000 mile axle servicing. Any ideas? I'm getting a little scared
> > here. :)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Matt



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