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Dean 02-26-2005 11:43 AM

Bad Heim Joint
 
Hey all,

The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:

http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf

Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.

tia
Dean
98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

Mike Romain 02-26-2005 12:24 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
expensive piece too.

I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dean wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Mike Romain 02-26-2005 12:24 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
expensive piece too.

I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dean wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Mike Romain 02-26-2005 12:24 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
expensive piece too.

I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dean wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Snow 02-26-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I have never seen any track bar looking like that on any J**P I've seen, You
would need to find a shop to custom build it. As for the factory bar, they
run around $350.00 canadian depending on source.

Snow...


"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs
> to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search
> reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about
> these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is
> worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/




Snow 02-26-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I have never seen any track bar looking like that on any J**P I've seen, You
would need to find a shop to custom build it. As for the factory bar, they
run around $350.00 canadian depending on source.

Snow...


"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs
> to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search
> reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about
> these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is
> worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/




Snow 02-26-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I have never seen any track bar looking like that on any J**P I've seen, You
would need to find a shop to custom build it. As for the factory bar, they
run around $350.00 canadian depending on source.

Snow...


"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs
> to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search
> reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about
> these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is
> worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/




Dean 02-26-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Here's a picture of what I've got:

http://www.gotjeep.net/trackbar.html

Except it isn't all shiny and new <lol>. I know it's the heim joint because
when someone rocks the jeep and you can see the outer race move over the inner
race, and it "clicks" at the same time.

Dean


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:52 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
>joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
>expensive piece too.
>
>I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Dean wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
>> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
>> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>>
>> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
>> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
>> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>>
>> tia
>> Dean
>> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/



Dean 02-26-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Here's a picture of what I've got:

http://www.gotjeep.net/trackbar.html

Except it isn't all shiny and new <lol>. I know it's the heim joint because
when someone rocks the jeep and you can see the outer race move over the inner
race, and it "clicks" at the same time.

Dean


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:52 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
>joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
>expensive piece too.
>
>I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Dean wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
>> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
>> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>>
>> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
>> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
>> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>>
>> tia
>> Dean
>> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/



Dean 02-26-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Here's a picture of what I've got:

http://www.gotjeep.net/trackbar.html

Except it isn't all shiny and new <lol>. I know it's the heim joint because
when someone rocks the jeep and you can see the outer race move over the inner
race, and it "clicks" at the same time.

Dean


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:52 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
>joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
>expensive piece too.
>
>I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Dean wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
>> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
>> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>>
>> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
>> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
>> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>>
>> tia
>> Dean
>> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/



Jerry Bransford 02-26-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Guys, he has a Rubicon Express trackbar that already has a threaded-in
Heim joint... the factory trackbar is gone. :)

Jerry

Snow wrote:
> I have never seen any track bar looking like that on any J**P I've seen, You
> would need to find a shop to custom build it. As for the factory bar, they
> run around $350.00 canadian depending on source.
>
> Snow...
>
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
>
>>Hey all,
>>
>>The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs
>>to be
>>replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search
>>reveals
>>many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>>
>>http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>>
>>Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about
>>these
>>greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is
>>worth a
>>whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>>
>>tia
>>Dean
>>98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
>>http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 02-26-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Guys, he has a Rubicon Express trackbar that already has a threaded-in
Heim joint... the factory trackbar is gone. :)

Jerry

Snow wrote:
> I have never seen any track bar looking like that on any J**P I've seen, You
> would need to find a shop to custom build it. As for the factory bar, they
> run around $350.00 canadian depending on source.
>
> Snow...
>
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
>
>>Hey all,
>>
>>The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs
>>to be
>>replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search
>>reveals
>>many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>>
>>http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>>
>>Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about
>>these
>>greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is
>>worth a
>>whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>>
>>tia
>>Dean
>>98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
>>http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 02-26-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Guys, he has a Rubicon Express trackbar that already has a threaded-in
Heim joint... the factory trackbar is gone. :)

Jerry

Snow wrote:
> I have never seen any track bar looking like that on any J**P I've seen, You
> would need to find a shop to custom build it. As for the factory bar, they
> run around $350.00 canadian depending on source.
>
> Snow...
>
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
>
>>Hey all,
>>
>>The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs
>>to be
>>replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search
>>reveals
>>many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>>
>>http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>>
>>Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about
>>these
>>greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is
>>worth a
>>whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>>
>>tia
>>Dean
>>98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
>>http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Mike Romain 02-26-2005 02:42 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Cool, a custom one!

Well I for sure wouldn't go back to the manufacturer that sold junk that
wears out really fast (Just changed mine out at 305,000 km) and like the
idea of the greaseable joint. As long as you can match the threads and
depth needed for any adjusting.

Mike

Dean wrote:
>
> Here's a picture of what I've got:
>
> http://www.gotjeep.net/trackbar.html
>
> Except it isn't all shiny and new <lol>. I know it's the heim joint because
> when someone rocks the jeep and you can see the outer race move over the inner
> race, and it "clicks" at the same time.
>
> Dean
>
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:52 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
> >joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
> >expensive piece too.
> >
> >I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Dean wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> >> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> >> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
> >>
> >> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> >> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> >> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
> >>
> >> tia
> >> Dean
> >> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> >> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Mike Romain 02-26-2005 02:42 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Cool, a custom one!

Well I for sure wouldn't go back to the manufacturer that sold junk that
wears out really fast (Just changed mine out at 305,000 km) and like the
idea of the greaseable joint. As long as you can match the threads and
depth needed for any adjusting.

Mike

Dean wrote:
>
> Here's a picture of what I've got:
>
> http://www.gotjeep.net/trackbar.html
>
> Except it isn't all shiny and new <lol>. I know it's the heim joint because
> when someone rocks the jeep and you can see the outer race move over the inner
> race, and it "clicks" at the same time.
>
> Dean
>
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:52 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
> >joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
> >expensive piece too.
> >
> >I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Dean wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> >> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> >> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
> >>
> >> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> >> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> >> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
> >>
> >> tia
> >> Dean
> >> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> >> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Mike Romain 02-26-2005 02:42 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Cool, a custom one!

Well I for sure wouldn't go back to the manufacturer that sold junk that
wears out really fast (Just changed mine out at 305,000 km) and like the
idea of the greaseable joint. As long as you can match the threads and
depth needed for any adjusting.

Mike

Dean wrote:
>
> Here's a picture of what I've got:
>
> http://www.gotjeep.net/trackbar.html
>
> Except it isn't all shiny and new <lol>. I know it's the heim joint because
> when someone rocks the jeep and you can see the outer race move over the inner
> race, and it "clicks" at the same time.
>
> Dean
>
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:24:52 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I think you will have to have a custom bar made to fit any custom
> >joint. The track bar is all one piece on any Jeep I know about, an
> >expensive piece too.
> >
> >I know my local Jeep shop makes custom ones with replaceable ends.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Dean wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> >> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> >> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
> >>
> >> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> >> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> >> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
> >>
> >> tia
> >> Dean
> >> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> >> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-26-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I wouldn't buy the ball or roller bearing ones, their areas that
support force are too small, the regular ball joint would be trick,
though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dean wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-26-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I wouldn't buy the ball or roller bearing ones, their areas that
support force are too small, the regular ball joint would be trick,
though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dean wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-26-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
I wouldn't buy the ball or roller bearing ones, their areas that
support force are too small, the regular ball joint would be trick,
though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dean wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


RoyJ 02-26-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
The tapered section right next to the ball may be part of the joint
rather than an add on insert. We use that type for high articulation
joints in the off road race cars we build. Regular ball joint ends only
have flex of about 25 degrees or so, the longer center section is
relieved to allow 35 degrees plus. These are available, just harder to
find and more money.


Dean wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


RoyJ 02-26-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
The tapered section right next to the ball may be part of the joint
rather than an add on insert. We use that type for high articulation
joints in the off road race cars we build. Regular ball joint ends only
have flex of about 25 degrees or so, the longer center section is
relieved to allow 35 degrees plus. These are available, just harder to
find and more money.


Dean wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


RoyJ 02-26-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
The tapered section right next to the ball may be part of the joint
rather than an add on insert. We use that type for high articulation
joints in the off road race cars we build. Regular ball joint ends only
have flex of about 25 degrees or so, the longer center section is
relieved to allow 35 degrees plus. These are available, just harder to
find and more money.


Dean wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Steve 02-28-2005 10:22 AM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Heim joints are notoriously lousy. Standard ball joints are tougher, but
they don't flex real well. RE's 'Heavy Duty' track bar has a much better
joint. That bar only costs a few bucks more than the RE heim joint bar,
though you do need a custom frame mount bracket.

This is your RE1600 track bar with the heim joint:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1600.jpg

Here's the RE1610 heavy duty bar and the required RE1611 bracket

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1610.jpg
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1611.jpg

The 1610 has a greaseable, rebuildable 'Super-Flex' joint. The poly
races can be replaced for about ten bucks. The joint itself should last
forever:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE3792.jpg

I'd say order a new RE1610 & RE1611 and put your old RE1600 up on ebay.
As an added bonus, the RE1610 can adjust out a bit farther than the
RE1600 should you ever choose to lift higher.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dean wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Steve 02-28-2005 10:22 AM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Heim joints are notoriously lousy. Standard ball joints are tougher, but
they don't flex real well. RE's 'Heavy Duty' track bar has a much better
joint. That bar only costs a few bucks more than the RE heim joint bar,
though you do need a custom frame mount bracket.

This is your RE1600 track bar with the heim joint:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1600.jpg

Here's the RE1610 heavy duty bar and the required RE1611 bracket

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1610.jpg
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1611.jpg

The 1610 has a greaseable, rebuildable 'Super-Flex' joint. The poly
races can be replaced for about ten bucks. The joint itself should last
forever:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE3792.jpg

I'd say order a new RE1610 & RE1611 and put your old RE1600 up on ebay.
As an added bonus, the RE1610 can adjust out a bit farther than the
RE1600 should you ever choose to lift higher.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dean wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Steve 02-28-2005 10:22 AM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
Heim joints are notoriously lousy. Standard ball joints are tougher, but
they don't flex real well. RE's 'Heavy Duty' track bar has a much better
joint. That bar only costs a few bucks more than the RE heim joint bar,
though you do need a custom frame mount bracket.

This is your RE1600 track bar with the heim joint:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1600.jpg

Here's the RE1610 heavy duty bar and the required RE1611 bracket

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1610.jpg
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE1611.jpg

The 1610 has a greaseable, rebuildable 'Super-Flex' joint. The poly
races can be replaced for about ten bucks. The joint itself should last
forever:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/RE3792.jpg

I'd say order a new RE1610 & RE1611 and put your old RE1600 up on ebay.
As an added bonus, the RE1610 can adjust out a bit farther than the
RE1600 should you ever choose to lift higher.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dean wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


Chuck Bremer 02-28-2005 01:41 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
i used a teflon-lined alloy heim joint from www.mcmaster.com - cost about
$60, and requires no lubrication. it's been on for well over a year, and
not a peep from it.


"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs

to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search

reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about

these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is

worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/




Chuck Bremer 02-28-2005 01:41 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
i used a teflon-lined alloy heim joint from www.mcmaster.com - cost about
$60, and requires no lubrication. it's been on for well over a year, and
not a peep from it.


"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs

to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search

reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about

these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is

worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/




Chuck Bremer 02-28-2005 01:41 PM

Re: Bad Heim Joint
 
i used a teflon-lined alloy heim joint from www.mcmaster.com - cost about
$60, and requires no lubrication. it's been on for well over a year, and
not a peep from it.


"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:0v71211tcgvl7spmk4fqdrf5vdo4jbpfvr@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> The heim joint on my Rubicon Express track bar is getting loose and needs

to be
> replaced. I'm pretty sure I can find one locally, but a quick web search

reveals
> many options. I like the look of these joints with greaseable ends:
>
> http://mdmetric.com/rodend/durbalcat2004.pdf
>
> Does anyone know if there is anything special about the joint? How about

these
> greaseable joints? Cost is not an issue because the labor, mine <g>, is

worth a
> whole lot more than a few bucks on a joint.
>
> tia
> Dean
> 98 TJ with 30K miles on a RE 4.5" lift.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/





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