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Lionel 02-08-2007 07:47 PM

Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Hello,

I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.

I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
are :
- is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
- are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
ones related to this switch ?
- is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
the battery ?

Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !

Lionel


Highcountry 02-09-2007 08:53 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 

I admittedly know "0" about which wires go where, but I would warn you
that applying current where there is none can be a VERY bad thing. I
would get a wiring schematic and backtrace until I found the problem
and repair it correctly.

Good Luck, Bruce


Highcountry 02-09-2007 08:53 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 

I admittedly know "0" about which wires go where, but I would warn you
that applying current where there is none can be a VERY bad thing. I
would get a wiring schematic and backtrace until I found the problem
and repair it correctly.

Good Luck, Bruce


Highcountry 02-09-2007 08:53 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 

I admittedly know "0" about which wires go where, but I would warn you
that applying current where there is none can be a VERY bad thing. I
would get a wiring schematic and backtrace until I found the problem
and repair it correctly.

Good Luck, Bruce


Highcountry 02-09-2007 08:53 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 

I admittedly know "0" about which wires go where, but I would warn you
that applying current where there is none can be a VERY bad thing. I
would get a wiring schematic and backtrace until I found the problem
and repair it correctly.

Good Luck, Bruce


Mike Romain 02-09-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
one kind of them:
http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...echtippage.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Lionel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>
> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> are :
> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> ones related to this switch ?
> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> the battery ?
>
> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
>
> Lionel
>


Mike Romain 02-09-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
one kind of them:
http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...echtippage.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Lionel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>
> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> are :
> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> ones related to this switch ?
> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> the battery ?
>
> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
>
> Lionel
>


Mike Romain 02-09-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
one kind of them:
http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...echtippage.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Lionel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>
> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> are :
> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> ones related to this switch ?
> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> the battery ?
>
> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
>
> Lionel
>


Mike Romain 02-09-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
one kind of them:
http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...echtippage.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Lionel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>
> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> are :
> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> ones related to this switch ?
> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> the battery ?
>
> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
>
> Lionel
>


Lionel 02-10-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.


It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.

> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...


Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.

Lionel

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > Hello,

>
> > I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> > my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> > whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> > transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> > engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> > safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> > can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.

>
> > I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> > are :
> > - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> > - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> > ones related to this switch ?
> > - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> > the battery ?

>
> > Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !

>
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Lionel 02-10-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.


It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.

> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...


Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.

Lionel

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > Hello,

>
> > I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> > my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> > whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> > transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> > engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> > safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> > can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.

>
> > I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> > are :
> > - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> > - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> > ones related to this switch ?
> > - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> > the battery ?

>
> > Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -




Lionel 02-10-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.


It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.

> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...


Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.

Lionel

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > Hello,

>
> > I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> > my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> > whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> > transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> > engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> > safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> > can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.

>
> > I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> > are :
> > - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> > - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> > ones related to this switch ?
> > - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> > the battery ?

>
> > Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -




Lionel 02-10-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.


It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.

> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...


Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.

Lionel

>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > Hello,

>
> > I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
> > my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
> > whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
> > transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
> > engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
> > safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
> > can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.

>
> > I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
> > are :
> > - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
> > - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
> > ones related to this switch ?
> > - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
> > the battery ?

>
> > Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -




Mike Romain 02-10-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
as the back up lights.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
>> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
>> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

>
> It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
> been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.
>
>> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
>> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
>> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...

>
> Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
> the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
> pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
> engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
> engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
> Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
> By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
> to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
> tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
> I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
> 1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
> The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
> far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.
>
> Lionel
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
>>> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
>>> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
>>> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
>>> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
>>> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
>>> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>>> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
>>> are :
>>> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
>>> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
>>> ones related to this switch ?
>>> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
>>> the battery ?
>>> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
>>> Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

>
>


Mike Romain 02-10-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
as the back up lights.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
>> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
>> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

>
> It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
> been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.
>
>> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
>> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
>> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...

>
> Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
> the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
> pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
> engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
> engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
> Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
> By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
> to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
> tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
> I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
> 1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
> The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
> far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.
>
> Lionel
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
>>> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
>>> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
>>> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
>>> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
>>> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
>>> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>>> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
>>> are :
>>> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
>>> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
>>> ones related to this switch ?
>>> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
>>> the battery ?
>>> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
>>> Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

>
>


Mike Romain 02-10-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
as the back up lights.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
>> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
>> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

>
> It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
> been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.
>
>> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
>> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
>> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...

>
> Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
> the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
> pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
> engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
> engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
> Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
> By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
> to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
> tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
> I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
> 1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
> The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
> far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.
>
> Lionel
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
>>> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
>>> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
>>> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
>>> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
>>> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
>>> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>>> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
>>> are :
>>> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
>>> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
>>> ones related to this switch ?
>>> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
>>> the battery ?
>>> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
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>


Mike Romain 02-10-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
as the back up lights.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
>> It probably doesn't matter, but what 'kind' of Laredo do you have. I
>> have a CJ7 Laredo and love it.

>
> It's a Cherokee Laredo 2.5L. I am working a lot on this vehicle I've
> been using now for a couple of months. I love this vehicle.
>
>> Meanwhile is sounds like you have a bad connection in the switch. Some
>> of those switches are extremely expensive. Here is a link on rebuilding
>> one kind of them:http://web.archive.org/web/200503070...rtdevils.org/b...

>
> Thanks for the link. I believe the switch is okay as I've already done
> the continuity test the article mentions . I've checked the "reverse"
> pins (A-E) on the switch and I have no resistance when reverse is
> engaged (circuit is closed) and no continuity when reverse is not
> engaged (circuit is open) so I assume the switch is doing its job. The
> Haynes manual mentions the wire before the switch is hot at all time.
> By "hot", my initial question was to know if I can connect it directly
> to the battery. So far I haven't found 12V on this wire so I am
> tempted to bypass this wire but I prefer to be sure before doing that,
> I won't kill the safety switch. As pin "A" is also responsible for
> 1-2nd speed and 3rd, is there a way to test those modes are engaged ?
> The differences between D, 1-2 and 3 are not striking a lot to me so
> far. I guess I should be feel a difference and so far I am not.
>
> Lionel
>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I've been browsing the web for days trying to find what's wrong with
>>> my backup lamps which are not working when I back up. I've cheched the
>>> whole circuit up to the neutral safety switch (I have an AW-4
>>> transmission) - the reverse switch is acting okay when reverse is
>>> engaged. I have a brown with a green line going to the lamps from the
>>> safety switch plug and on the other side a blue with a white line. I
>>> can turn on both lights if I apply 12V to the brown green wire.
>>> I suspect the blue/white is not powering the light so my questions
>>> are :
>>> - is this one connected directly to the battery or the computer ?
>>> - are there any fuse I may check (so far I haven't found any visible
>>> ones related to this switch ?
>>> - is it possible to bypass the blue wire by connecting it directly to
>>> the battery ?
>>> Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks !
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>


Lionel 02-12-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> as the back up lights.
>
> Mike


The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
continuity in all other modes.

With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
tips on my plan ?

I'll post some follow-ups on that.

Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
course is not the regular one ?

Thanks

Lionel


Lionel 02-12-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> as the back up lights.
>
> Mike


The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
continuity in all other modes.

With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
tips on my plan ?

I'll post some follow-ups on that.

Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
course is not the regular one ?

Thanks

Lionel


Lionel 02-12-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> as the back up lights.
>
> Mike


The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
continuity in all other modes.

With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
tips on my plan ?

I'll post some follow-ups on that.

Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
course is not the regular one ?

Thanks

Lionel


Lionel 02-12-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> as the back up lights.
>
> Mike


The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
continuity in all other modes.

With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
tips on my plan ?

I'll post some follow-ups on that.

Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
course is not the regular one ?

Thanks

Lionel


Mike Romain 02-12-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.

I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
can easily be adjusted or not.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>> as the back up lights.
>>
>> Mike

>
> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> continuity in all other modes.
>
> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> tips on my plan ?
>
> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>
> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> course is not the regular one ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Lionel
>


Mike Romain 02-12-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.

I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
can easily be adjusted or not.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>> as the back up lights.
>>
>> Mike

>
> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> continuity in all other modes.
>
> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> tips on my plan ?
>
> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>
> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> course is not the regular one ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Lionel
>


Mike Romain 02-12-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.

I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
can easily be adjusted or not.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>> as the back up lights.
>>
>> Mike

>
> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> continuity in all other modes.
>
> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> tips on my plan ?
>
> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>
> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> course is not the regular one ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Lionel
>


Mike Romain 02-12-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.

I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
can easily be adjusted or not.

Mike

Lionel wrote:
> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>> as the back up lights.
>>
>> Mike

>
> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> continuity in all other modes.
>
> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> tips on my plan ?
>
> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>
> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> course is not the regular one ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Lionel
>


Lionel 02-22-2007 01:12 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.

Lionel



On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>
> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
> can easily be adjusted or not.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> >> as the back up lights.

>
> >> Mike

>
> > The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> > assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> > the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> > harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> > probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> > the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> > continuity in all other modes.

>
> > With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> > read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> > this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> > to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> > the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> > does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> > light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> > tips on my plan ?

>
> > I'll post some follow-ups on that.

>
> > Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> > the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> > normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> > course is not the regular one ?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -




Lionel 02-22-2007 01:12 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.

Lionel



On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>
> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
> can easily be adjusted or not.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> >> as the back up lights.

>
> >> Mike

>
> > The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> > assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> > the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> > harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> > probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> > the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> > continuity in all other modes.

>
> > With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> > read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> > this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> > to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> > the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> > does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> > light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> > tips on my plan ?

>
> > I'll post some follow-ups on that.

>
> > Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> > the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> > normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> > course is not the regular one ?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -




Lionel 02-22-2007 01:12 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.

Lionel



On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>
> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
> can easily be adjusted or not.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> >> as the back up lights.

>
> >> Mike

>
> > The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> > assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> > the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> > harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> > probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> > the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> > continuity in all other modes.

>
> > With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> > read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> > this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> > to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> > the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> > does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> > light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> > tips on my plan ?

>
> > I'll post some follow-ups on that.

>
> > Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> > the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> > normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> > course is not the regular one ?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -




Mike Romain 02-22-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Thanks for the follow up!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Lionel wrote:
> As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
> and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
> dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
> to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.
>
> Lionel
>
>
>
> On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
>> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
>> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>>
>> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
>> can easily be adjusted or not.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>>>> as the back up lights.
>>>> Mike
>>> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
>>> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
>>> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
>>> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
>>> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
>>> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
>>> continuity in all other modes.
>>> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
>>> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
>>> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
>>> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
>>> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
>>> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
>>> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
>>> tips on my plan ?
>>> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>>> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
>>> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
>>> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
>>> course is not the regular one ?
>>> Thanks
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Mike Romain 02-22-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Thanks for the follow up!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Lionel wrote:
> As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
> and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
> dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
> to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.
>
> Lionel
>
>
>
> On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
>> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
>> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>>
>> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
>> can easily be adjusted or not.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>>>> as the back up lights.
>>>> Mike
>>> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
>>> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
>>> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
>>> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
>>> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
>>> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
>>> continuity in all other modes.
>>> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
>>> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
>>> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
>>> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
>>> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
>>> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
>>> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
>>> tips on my plan ?
>>> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>>> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
>>> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
>>> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
>>> course is not the regular one ?
>>> Thanks
>>> Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

>
>


Mike Romain 02-22-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Thanks for the follow up!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Lionel wrote:
> As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
> and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
> dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
> to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.
>
> Lionel
>
>
>
> On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
>> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
>> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>>
>> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
>> can easily be adjusted or not.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel wrote:
>>> On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
>>>> as the back up lights.
>>>> Mike
>>> The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
>>> assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
>>> the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
>>> harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
>>> probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
>>> the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
>>> continuity in all other modes.
>>> With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
>>> read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
>>> this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
>>> to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
>>> the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
>>> does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
>>> light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
>>> tips on my plan ?
>>> I'll post some follow-ups on that.
>>> Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
>>> the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
>>> normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
>>> course is not the regular one ?
>>> Thanks
>>> Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

>
>


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-22-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Yankee ingenuity.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Lionel" <lionel.pawlowski@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172124736.510853.19510@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.

Lionel



On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>
> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
> can easily be adjusted or not.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> >> as the back up lights.

>
> >> Mike

>
> > The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> > assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> > the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> > harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> > probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> > the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> > continuity in all other modes.

>
> > With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> > read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> > this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> > to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> > the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> > does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> > light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> > tips on my plan ?

>
> > I'll post some follow-ups on that.

>
> > Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> > the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> > normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> > course is not the regular one ?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -





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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-22-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Yankee ingenuity.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Lionel" <lionel.pawlowski@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172124736.510853.19510@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.

Lionel



On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>
> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
> can easily be adjusted or not.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> >> as the back up lights.

>
> >> Mike

>
> > The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> > assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> > the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> > harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> > probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> > the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> > continuity in all other modes.

>
> > With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> > read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> > this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> > to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> > the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> > does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> > light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> > tips on my plan ?

>
> > I'll post some follow-ups on that.

>
> > Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> > the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> > normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> > course is not the regular one ?

>
> > Thanks

>
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>
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-22-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Backups lights not working on Laredo'91
 
Yankee ingenuity.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Lionel" <lionel.pawlowski@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172124736.510853.19510@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
As promised, here is a follow-up. I've done what I explained before
and the backup-lights are now operational again. A wire was probably
dead before the neutral safety switch. I hooked directly an extra wire
to the battery and the wire has itself a 15A fuse.

Lionel



On 12 fév, 15:27, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I can't see anything wrong with your power supply idea. I think you
> should follow the cable back to see if it maybe got melted by the
> exhaust or pinched by a mount or something.
>
> I think the button on the brake screws on with a set nut, not sure if it
> can easily be adjusted or not.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Lionel wrote:
> > On 10 fév, 07:28, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Does your rear window defroster work? I 'think' it is on the same fuse
> >> as the back up lights.

>
> >> Mike

>
> > The rear defroster light turns on when I press defroster therefore I
> > assume defroster is okay. I checked the fuse box under the hood and
> > the one on the driver side. All fuses are okay so maybe the wiring
> > harness is cut at some point. I have 0.4 ohm of resistance (could
> > probably have more with cleaner conductive parts) between pins A-E on
> > the neutral safety switch plug when reverse is engaged and no
> > continuity in all other modes.

>
> > With engine on and off, I never read any volts where I guess I should
> > read 12V (before the switch to pin A) so I am thinking of bypassing
> > this apparently cut wire by adding one with a 15A fuse hooked directly
> > to the + of the battery. I based my plan from the wiring diagrams in
> > the Chilton (it even has a correct color code for my jeep the Haynes
> > does not have). Applying directly 12V on pin E turns on my backup
> > light so the after-switch part of the circuit is good. Any comments/
> > tips on my plan ?

>
> > I'll post some follow-ups on that.

>
> > Another question: my parking brakes are fine but the button to release
> > the lever has a very small course, maybe 4mm. I don't think this is
> > normal. Is there any way I can unstuck this button assuming this its
> > course is not the regular one ?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > Lionel- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -





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