Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

Hey Everyone,
I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already installed.
Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with it on
my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc. What
am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle seal
replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we have
that down to a half-hour job.

Thanks,
Don W

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

I dunno about your stuff but when I bought new axle bearings and seals for
my D44, they were the new one piece unit with O rings on the outside
diameter. Supposedly they are better. I have yet to pull the axle shafts and
do the r&r though.
KH

"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030911225709.16504.00000819@mb-m02.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already
installed.
> Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with it
on
> my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc.
What
> am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle seal
> replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we
have
> that down to a half-hour job.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

I dunno about your stuff but when I bought new axle bearings and seals for
my D44, they were the new one piece unit with O rings on the outside
diameter. Supposedly they are better. I have yet to pull the axle shafts and
do the r&r though.
KH

"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030911225709.16504.00000819@mb-m02.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already
installed.
> Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with it
on
> my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc.
What
> am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle seal
> replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we
have
> that down to a half-hour job.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

Don Wallish (quicktruck@aol.comnospam) wrote on Thursday 11 September 2003
09:57 pm:

> Hey Everyone,
> I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already
> installed.
> Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with it
> on
> my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc.
> What am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle
> seal
> replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we
> have that down to a half-hour job.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W

Don,

Not a big deal, really. I've got an AMC 20 on my CJ8, and the biggest pain
is removing the brake lines. Other than that, it's four or five bolts then
30 seconds with a seal puller.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

Don Wallish (quicktruck@aol.comnospam) wrote on Thursday 11 September 2003
09:57 pm:

> Hey Everyone,
> I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already
> installed.
> Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with it
> on
> my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc.
> What am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle
> seal
> replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we
> have that down to a half-hour job.
>
> Thanks,
> Don W

Don,

Not a big deal, really. I've got an AMC 20 on my CJ8, and the biggest pain
is removing the brake lines. Other than that, it's four or five bolts then
30 seconds with a seal puller.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

I put a Superior one piece kit in my 76 CJ5 resto project last year. The
previous owner / butcher of the CJ had left the hub on the left side loose
for so long it had nearly sheared the woodruff key off. Took a lot of effort
to get the hub & axle shaft out.

The Superior kit looked about as good as any of the kits out there. As I
recall it used an inner seal pressed into the axle tube and a one piece
outer seal molded to a plate. which attached to the brake backing plate
bolts. I can't remember if it had any o-rings, don't think it did.

One problem we had with it is that the thing had been so poorly maintained
that the old outer bearing had damaged the seating surface inside the axle
tube. To get the correct spacing we shimmed the new bearing races with
motorcycle piston rings which fit just right inside the tube. So far after
over 10k miles it's going fine, no leaks etc.

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n4c8b.51903$Qy4.4495@fed1read05...
> I dunno about your stuff but when I bought new axle bearings and seals for
> my D44, they were the new one piece unit with O rings on the outside
> diameter. Supposedly they are better. I have yet to pull the axle shafts
and
> do the r&r though.
> KH
>
> "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030911225709.16504.00000819@mb-m02.aol.com...
> > Hey Everyone,
> > I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already
> installed.
> > Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with
it
> on
> > my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc.
> What
> > am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle
seal
> > replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we
> have
> > that down to a half-hour job.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don W
> >
>
>

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

I put a Superior one piece kit in my 76 CJ5 resto project last year. The
previous owner / butcher of the CJ had left the hub on the left side loose
for so long it had nearly sheared the woodruff key off. Took a lot of effort
to get the hub & axle shaft out.

The Superior kit looked about as good as any of the kits out there. As I
recall it used an inner seal pressed into the axle tube and a one piece
outer seal molded to a plate. which attached to the brake backing plate
bolts. I can't remember if it had any o-rings, don't think it did.

One problem we had with it is that the thing had been so poorly maintained
that the old outer bearing had damaged the seating surface inside the axle
tube. To get the correct spacing we shimmed the new bearing races with
motorcycle piston rings which fit just right inside the tube. So far after
over 10k miles it's going fine, no leaks etc.

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n4c8b.51903$Qy4.4495@fed1read05...
> I dunno about your stuff but when I bought new axle bearings and seals for
> my D44, they were the new one piece unit with O rings on the outside
> diameter. Supposedly they are better. I have yet to pull the axle shafts
and
> do the r&r though.
> KH
>
> "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030911225709.16504.00000819@mb-m02.aol.com...
> > Hey Everyone,
> > I got a good deal on an AMC 20 rear with a Superior kit already
> installed.
> > Before i put it in my CJ8 i want to replace things that are easier with
it
> on
> > my workbench instead of waiting until they fail. Brakes, hardware, etc.
> What
> > am i going to see on this setup that's different than the stock axle
seal
> > replacement? After doing so many seals on my friend's bent model 20, we
> have
> > that down to a half-hour job.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don W
> >
>
>

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

>Not a big deal, really. I've got an AMC 20 on my CJ8, and the biggest pain
>is removing the brake lines. Other than that, it's four or five bolts then
>30 seconds with a seal puller.

Thanks a bunch, Mike. Since i'm replacing the lines, too, that shouldn't be a
problem.

Don W

'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's

And it finally runs!!!!!

Re: Axle seal replacement w/ one-piece kit?
 

>Not a big deal, really. I've got an AMC 20 on my CJ8, and the biggest pain
>is removing the brake lines. Other than that, it's four or five bolts then
>30 seconds with a seal puller.

Thanks a bunch, Mike. Since i'm replacing the lines, too, that shouldn't be a
problem.

Don W

'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's

And it finally runs!!!!!